Re: XML, PBM and Refugee Scheme

From: "Enno Rehling" <schick.mir.spam@gmx.de>

Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 18:34:01 +0000

The posting you're replying to is _ancient_.

I'll try to give an example of what I meant to say (I think): If you have
someone who developped a small tool that could, for example, turn the output
of the game into an order template, inflexible data formats will mean that
when you add new stats to the output, his tool might break. whilst you could
easily use output, define your new output to be a superset of the old, and
his tool would still work.

Enno,
still no XML in Eressea.

"Talisman Games" <jon@paladin.net> wrote in message
news:3aa8eb06@NS1.PALADIN.NET...
> I may have missed something here...  I thought your intent was to exchange
> or pass on information to another company.  Would you not need to
> standardize the XML tags so that the receiving company would know what
> fields to store in its database?  What about internationalization?
>
> We are finishing up on the rewrite of several games and while I would like
> to use XML, I see no reason to add it.
>
> Jon.
>
> "Enno Rehling" <schick.mir.spam@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:8tp7pc$ll7$1@news.uni-paderborn.de...
> >
> > "KC Satyr" <sbrown79@kc.rr.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> > news:iJKL5.30874$6V6.79615@typhoon.kc.rr.com...
> > > I've notice a gaggle of folks brandishing XML, much like the solution
> > > looking for a problem.
> > > Now, I'm not putting it down, I'm warning against the use of using
the
> > > brand new Acme Hammer as a universal tool. In my software development
> > > experience, hobby and commercial - XML has yet to be a valued solution
> for
> > > me.  Nothing CSV files can't handle.
> >
> > The major difference is that CSV cannot cope with structured data unless
> you
> > have one file for each structure in your game. XML (or other formats
like
> > the CR format used in various Atlantis clones like GA, Eressea and
> Verdanon)
> > can store multiple units, regions, ships, buildings, etc. in a
> hierarchical
> > manner.
> >
> > Another big advantage of XML is that it's easy to expand it. Anyone
who's
> > ever changed the output of the game and then had 10 client developers
tell
> > them that their clients could no longer read this 'broken' format will
> agree
> > that compatibility is hard to achieve when you're making weekly changes
to
> > the game.
> >
> > For Eressea, we've thought of scrapping CR and using XML output several
> > times in the past, but the amount of tools that use the old format and
> would
> > have to be rewritten from scratch have so far dissuaded us. For a new
> game,
> > yes, I would send out turn reports in XML.
> >
> > Enno.
> >
> >
> >
>
>

References

XML, PBM and Refugee Scheme
MindShift Design <teammsd@mindshiftdesign.com>
Tue, 31 Oct 2000 16:02:52 +0000
Re: XML, PBM and Refugee Scheme
Tim Lomas <tim@nospam.antsnest.demon.co.uk>
Tue, 31 Oct 2000 18:14:14 +0000
Re: XML, PBM and Refugee Scheme
"KC Satyr" <sbrown79@kc.rr.com>
Wed, 01 Nov 2000 01:54:22 +0000
Re: XML, PBM and Refugee Scheme
"Enno Rehling" <schick.mir.spam@gmx.de>
Wed, 01 Nov 2000 09:12:13 +0000
Re: XML, PBM and Refugee Scheme
"Talisman Games" <jon@paladin.net>
Fri, 09 Mar 2001 14:38:47 +0000

Referenced By

XML, PBM and Refugee Scheme
MindShift Design <teammsd@mindshiftdesign.com>
Tue, 31 Oct 2000 16:02:52 +0000
Re: XML, PBM and Refugee Scheme
Tim Lomas <tim@nospam.antsnest.demon.co.uk>
Tue, 31 Oct 2000 18:14:14 +0000
Re: XML, PBM and Refugee Scheme
"KC Satyr" <sbrown79@kc.rr.com>
Wed, 01 Nov 2000 01:54:22 +0000
Re: XML, PBM and Refugee Scheme
"Enno Rehling" <schick.mir.spam@gmx.de>
Wed, 01 Nov 2000 09:12:13 +0000
Re: XML, PBM and Refugee Scheme
"Talisman Games" <jon@paladin.net>
Fri, 09 Mar 2001 14:38:47 +0000