Re: Duelmasters - stat trains

From: kanga.caltech.edu!johnjohn (John White)

Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1992 20:02:39 +0000

In article <18411@aggie.ucdavis.edu> ccs012@yogi.ucdavis.edu (Riff-Raff)
writes:
>In article <1992Mar6.232538.5265@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> sms35849@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
(Scott M. Stortzum) writes:
>>When you reach AD, the first
>>3 trains are at 100%, then halved every time thereafter.
>
>If you mean 100% as in, WL * 5, then yes it's true.  If you mean 100% as
>in you always gets your first three trains in AD, then no you're not.  I've
>missed quite a few trains in AD. My first waste there had a 17 WL, and
>couldn't get his CN from 14 (original) to 17 in AD, even though hehad
>trained it to 16 in regular DM.

This would tend to imply that there is no "resetting" of  the chance for stat
trains in AD, right?

>>This system allows
>>characters with will's above 20 to get six stat raises on average in AD.
>>Example, my 18 WL tp raised his ST 2 times in regular DM, then had no problem
>>at all raising his ST 3 consecutive fights in AD.  Extremely lucky, not!
>
>Extremely lucky?  How much luck do you need?  An 18 WL means that hehad
>a 90% base chance of getting his first three stat raises, which he got.
>His next train was at 45% (almost 1 in 2) and his last train at 22.5%
>(about 1 in 4).  So, looking at it, he had a 1 in 8 chance or so of getting
>5 stat raises in a row.  I would call those good enough odds to account
>for his "extreme luck."

But the first 2 raises were in DM, so the chance to train went down.  My
question had to do with whether or not the first three trains in AD were at
100% of will*5 if the warrior had trained in DM.  This example seems to
directly contradict the first one.

>>It's very rare that you see regular DM characters raising stats 3 times
before
>>they go to AD for this very reason.  Another example, before I understood the
>>rule, I had a 17 WL lunger try to raise ST a 3rd time.  Theoretically, if you
>>follow Riff-Raff's argument, he had an 85% chance to raise it.
>
>Not unless you got the terms mixed up.  AD means Advanced Duelmasters,
>and DM means simply Duelmasters (the Basic game).  I did my best to
>distinguish between the two systems.  I guess I didn't distinguish
>clearly enough.

Again, my question specific to this example, would be: If the lunger in
question was able to raise will from 17 to 20 in DM, would his first 3 trains
in _all_ his stats in AD be at 100%?

>In DM (Basic Duelmasters): (WL*5)/number of raises
>In ADM (Adv. Game): If number of raises <= 3
>	WL * 5
>else
>	(WL*5)/number of raises - 2

Again, just to clarify, is there a difference between raises, and raises in AD
in these formulas?

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References

Re: stat trains
ccs012@yogi.ucdavis.edu (Riff-Raff)
Sat, 07 Mar 1992 11:21:02 +0000