Re: Duelmasters Roll Up

From: ccmdenis@george.ucdavis.edu (Donald Trump)

Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1992 02:40:06 +0000

>Yes, another new player (who also can't spell or type).  I have recieved
>my roll ups (2 weeks) and am desciding what to do with them.  I have
>been reading the board so hopefully I will avoid some basic errors
>(boosting con).

I expected this board to shrink down to nothing but Olympia players with
the coming of summer.  It's good to see new DM players!

Let's see what I would do with your guys.

>1) Well lets start with the trash, a witless wonder with a terribly high con:

>4-17-6-5-13-11-14

>My thought is to use his natural WL/SP/DF to make an offensive type.
>(Low wit is bad for Parry, yes?)  So

>    7-17-6-7-15-13-19 L

Actually, WT has no effect whatsoever on Parry.  Small SZ be bad on
offense, good on parry.  So actually, I would go for...

TP
ST  4 + 5 =  9
CN 17 + 0 = 17
SZ  6 + 0 =  6
WT  5 + 0 =  5
WL 13 + 4 = 17
SP 11 + 2 = 13
DF 14 + 3 = 17

The 9 ST will get you the ability to use the ME, as well as cannot carry
a lot of weight in weapons and armor, as opposed to can only carry a little.
The points on WL give extra endurance (always a plus), as well as more
damage taking, and parry.  The points on SP make this guy highly coor-
dinated, and give a few skills that putting DF at 19 wouldn't give.  Not
only that, but it makes the WT/WL/SP/DF combo "magic," since they're
all on breakpoints (the breaks are 5,9,13,17, and 21).

This character won't have outstanding long-term success, but he'll do
well (maybe 25-10 before he gets booted out of the arena).  I have a
character somewhat similar to this: 15-13(+2)-6-9-17-13-13 who's dong
alright (1-1 in the arena, 5-3 in the last tourney).

>2) Another witless wonder that may be redeemable:

>13-12-8-6-9-13-9

>Then again maybe not, Only three stats to add to (WT/WL/DF)

>    13-12-8-12-13-13-13 PL  (Train wit in first fight)

The low SZ points to a defensive, but I don't know exactly which one.
The WT 6 WL 9 is a killer on long-term potential.  It looks like yo've
found the best overall combination, but I wouldn't expect this guy to
do well.  Plungers are hard to run with the best of set-ups, whicht this
guy doesn't have.  However, a guy I used to talk to ran a plunger with
approximately the same set-up who did well and made it to AD.  Of course,
that was long, long ago...

>3) Maybe not better, but definately bigger:

>9-5-19-10-13-4-10

>I thought I'd use his size to offensive advantage:

>    9-5-19-15-17-5-14 ST (recomendations on style very welcome)

You've got the right idea, but going Striker is going to be a mistake,
in my opinion.  Instead, try...

BA
ST  9 + 4 = 13
CN  5 + 0 =  5
SZ 19 + 0 = 19
WT 10 + 5 = 15
WL 13 + 4 = 17
SP  4 + 0 =  4
DF 10 + 2 = 11

With the low CN and SP this guy actually has a chance at being good
despite his high SZ.  ST 13 WT 15 WL 17 DF 11 will give him halfway
decent base scores for a basher, which his incredible SZ will only
accentuate.

I like him!

>4)  And even bigger:

>14-4-20-11-9-4-8

>Already nicknamed MasterBasher

>    15-5-20-13-13-5-13 BA (Quarterstaff)

Close, but don't handicap this guy by adding WL.  Instead, try...

BA
ST 14 + 1 = 15
CN  4 + 0 =  4
SZ 20 + 0 = 20
WT 11 + 6 = 17
WL  9 + 1 = 10
SP  4 + 1 =  5
DF  8 + 5 = 13

This type of basher works exceptionally well for the first 5-10
fights of his career, then dies (actually, I've only had one make it
past his 5th fight).

I put the point on ST for the Greatsword and Maul, the point of SP
just to bring it up to a major break, and the point on WL just because
I happened to have an extra one just because a little extra endur
ance never hurts.

>5)  Finally, the one I am at loss what to do with:

>9-10-7-10-8-12-14

>Good stats but what to do?  How about:

>    9-10-7-15-13-13-17 PR

This will work, or you can do what I did: make it a lunger.  The Man In
Black started with expert Attack and Init+2 on the roll-up (which is
pretty darn good), with the same roll-up except that he had a little more
ST, a little less CN, and was SZ 8.

>Well, there they are.  Any comments or suggestions are welcome, I'm sure
>my initial guesses are a bit naive, but that's the game.  Also any
>suggestions for arrenas?

I haven't heard of any exceptionally good ones for beginners.  The newer
ones will keep you from getting down-challenged by warriors with 5-10
more fights than you, but at the expense of playing against all the really
good managers (well, I'm not there, but all the other ones :).

Trump

PS  If you need help getting those bashers off to a winning record, drop
me a line.  I'll be more than happy to give a few helpful hints.

References

Duelmasters Roll Up
Theodore Wadsworth <tw1t+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Mon, 15 Jun 1992 20:35:29 +0000