Re: Stupid Newbie (again)

From: gulla@Lise.Unit.NO (Anders H}kon Gulla)

Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1993 15:09:55 +0000

In article <1993Jan19.050600.2195@fuug.fi>, an4871@anon.penet.fi writes:
 > Ok, I figured out why the anon poster was messing up my postings, so this
 > is take 3 of the same message.  Please bear with me and hold the flames.
 >
 > <grumble grumble>
 >
 > I am posting this anonymously only for the reason that I do not
 > want to give away any possible strategy for the game I am in.
 > Please understand.
 >
 >

No problem, but it's more polite to identify yourself :-)

>
 > Here are my questions, no flames please:
 >
 > Assume all of these questions are in the timeframe of the first
 > five or so turns.
 >
 > Initially, you concerns would be expansion and defense, right? What
 > are the ways to quickly accomplish this?  Would it be better to use
 > your first turn to produce a series of defensive satellites with
 > the stats of [ 0 1 1 0 0 ] or to produce probes [ 1 0 0 0 0 ] or
 > even a blockade-runner style cargo ship [ 1 0 0 0 1 ]?
 >
 > Would it be better to forget defense, build a series of small cargo
 > ships and get ahold of as many planets as possible as quickly as
 > possible in order to aid research production later?
 >
Never, never NEVER forget your defence,  someday someone will visit you with a
small armed scout (1 1 1 0 0) and kill off everything.  Just ask the Cretians
in game Alpha :-).  My normal strategy (rather violent and offensive, is this:

round 1 Produce attacing ships (1 BIG og 6-7 medium)  They must be able to reach
        your closest neighbour in 2 turns.
round 2 Produce BID defensive ships.  I always produce 2 since the enemy must
        build about half the mass in drive to get to me in round 3.  Since you
        2 ships split equally between a big gun and a big shield.
Round 3 Build colonising ships.  This round your attacking ships should also
        reach teir destiny.
Round 4 Start colonizing any newly wiped Homeworlds and talk to the peolpe who
        have defeated your attack force.  They normally are more interested in
        Peace than war.

> Or failing that, should I forgo the production of any initial
 > spacecraft and concentrate on hyperdrive research in order to aid
 > expansion in later moves?
 >
 > I know each person had different strategies.  Some like to take an
 > early offensive while other concentrate on research and expansion.

Depends on what and who is around you.  The more planets and fewer enemys
the less need for immediate defence, and more need for research and
development.

If you have few close planets research drive early (round 4 or 5.)  Also if you
don't get everythig like you want on the diplomatic front, produce a BIG GUN (tm)
about 60 or 70, a machinegun 75x2 and a lot of small singleshields (00010).

> I am not looking for people so much to say "do this" as opposed to
 > "this is WHY it might be better to do this".  I want to be able to
 > make a series of informed choices that won't get me wiped out
 > after three moves.
The whys:

My starting strategy gives you the opportunity to get a second (or more) home
planets.  This is always an advantage, and you might also at the same time get
less potentional enemies close to you.  The strategy also gives you a fair
chance of resisting an equal strategy.  The few rounds you lose on the attack
is worth it if it succedes, and don't cripple you too mush if it dont.

As for defence after a couple og games I have found that the ideal costelation
is to have a few BIG GUNS (tm) to kill big enemies, a collection of machine
guns (0 150 1 23 0, 0 75 2 23, 0 50 3 20 0 etc) and a lot og small ships to
take the hits ( 0 0 0 1 0, 0 0 0 2 0 and later 0 0 0 4 0 and 0 0 0 8 0)

The small ships take of the shots, the machineguns destroy the enemy's small
ships, and the BIG GUNS (tm) kill the ugly bastards leading the enemy fleet.

Always remeber that the attacker have the disadvantage of building drive, but
that you have the disadvantage that if _ONE_ attacking ship survives, it will
wipe out your planet (In my first game I was bombed by a 93 1 1 277 0 ship.
I learned from that.....)

> Thanks for your time.  I appreciate it.
 >

No problem, you're welcome.
 >
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AH! Gulla
gulla@lise.unit.no

References

Stupid Newbie (again)
an4871@anon.penet.fi
Tue, 19 Jan 1993 03:36:45 +0000

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Stupid Newbie (again)
an4871@anon.penet.fi
Tue, 19 Jan 1993 03:36:45 +0000