Re: DM: Typical Roll-ups?

From: itlm013@dale.ucdavis.edu (Donnie Trump)

Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1993 18:48:56 +0000

In article <1993Apr14.012445.3968@rdii.com> jas@rdii.com (Jim Smith) writes:
>In article <C5Ftns.5Fp@ucdavis.edu> itlm013@dale.ucdavis.edu (Donnie Trump) writes:
>>In article <1993Apr12.232635.1326@rdii.com> jas@rdii.com (Jim Smith) writes:
>>>
>>>13-6-18-6-6-16-5
>>
>>Try...
>>
>>            ST
>>ST 13 + 4 = 17
>>CN  6 + 0 =  6
>>SZ 18 + 0 = 18
>>WT  6 + 1 =  7
>>WL  6 + 2 =  8
>>SP 16 + 1 = 17
>>DF  5 + 6 = 11
>
>Why did you add the two points to will?  I'm not criticizing, mind you,
>it's just that character design is still black magic to me since I haven't
>had enough experience yet and I'm trying to understand the "why" behind
>people's various design philosophies.

I added the points to WL out of default.

1)  17 ST is more than enough for this roll-up.  Maybe too much.
2)  Never add to CN, especially with dixie offensives.
3)  7 WT is useful for the WH.  9 WT is pretty much useless.
4)  17 SP is obviously enough.  19 might give marginal benefits, but I
	doubt it would overcome the endurance bonus the 2 extra points
	of WL gives.
5)  DF is already maxed out.

Thus, WL was the only area where points would help.  The extra endurance
comes in handy vs. TPs as well.

>>>5-6-11-5-12-16-15
>>
>>Try...
>>
>>            LU
>>ST  5 + 6 = 11
>>CN  6 + 0 =  6
>>SZ 11 + 0 = 11
>>WT  5 + 0 =  5
>>WL 12 + 5 = 17
>>SP 16 + 1 = 17
>>DF 15 + 2 = 17
>>
>>There are obviously better areas for the 3 17's to be in, but you take what you
>>get I suppose.  This lunger should do about as well as the striker, maybe
>>better because he'll have a style advantage over more opponents.  Run in
>>no body armor, going 10-10-6-None for the first minute, 10-8-8-None in the
>>second, and 8-6-6-None from the third on.  3-9-3-Dodge in desperation.  Run
>>with the Shortspear vs. light (0,7), Longspear vs. medium (8,14), and
>>Longsword vs. heavy (15,+).  Challenge finesse styles and other lungers.
>
>By "finesse" styles, do you mean just AB's and PR's or do you also include
>PL's and PS's?

Finesse = anybody who isn't all offense or all defense.  Thus, AB, PR, PS,
PL, WS, and even those young offensive TPs.

>>>My question is, what is the typical ratio of bad to good roll-ups?
>>
>>Extraordinarily high.  If you DA every roll-up that isn't pretty damn
>>good, you're going to be spending a lot of money and seeing very little
>>result for it (I spend a while trying to the get the "perfect" rollup.
>>All I got was frustrated).
>
>I am finding myself starting to get frustrated also, although more because
>of my lack of knowledge about warrior design and fighting strategies than
>because of lack of decent roll-ups.  I, unfortunately, don't have the time
>or money to run in more that one arena so information is coming rather
>slowly.

That's what the net is for.  I learned about DM here than I did actually
playing.  It's a tremendous resource that most players don't have access
Good luck!

Trump

References

Re: DM: Typical Roll-ups?
itlm013@dale.ucdavis.edu (Donnie Trump)
Tue, 13 Apr 1993 19:47:52 +0000
Re: DM: Typical Roll-ups?
jas@rdii.com (Jim Smith)
Wed, 14 Apr 1993 01:24:45 +0000
DM: Typical Roll-ups?
jas@rdii.com (Jim Smith)
Mon, 12 Apr 1993 23:26:35 +0000