Re: DM: Typical Roll-ups?

From: jas@rdii.com (Jim Smith)

Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1993 01:24:45 +0000

In article <C5Ftns.5Fp@ucdavis.edu> itlm013@dale.ucdavis.edu (Donnie Trump) writes:
>In article <1993Apr12.232635.1326@rdii.com> jas@rdii.com (Jim Smith) writes:
>>
>>13-6-18-6-6-16-5
>
>Try...
>
>            ST
>ST 13 + 4 = 17
>CN  6 + 0 =  6
>SZ 18 + 0 = 18
>WT  6 + 1 =  7
>WL  6 + 2 =  8
>SP 16 + 1 = 17
>DF  5 + 6 = 11
>
>The high ST/SP striker design has worked pretty well for me in the past.
>Just attack other offensives who are typically slower.  This design also
>works wells against TPs (*BIG* damage) and PSs.  DA after he reaches
>Adepts (which may not take long) or his second loss (which also may not
>take long).  Run him 10-10-6-Decis with WH or 10-4-8-Bash with the WH.
>Either way, he should do well.  Oh yeah, no armor or backup weapons.

Why did you add the two points to will?  I'm not criticizing, mind you,
it's just that character design is still black magic to me since I haven't
had enough experience yet and I'm trying to understand the "why" behind
people's various design philosophies.

>>5-6-11-5-12-16-15
>
>Try...
>
>            LU
>ST  5 + 6 = 11
>CN  6 + 0 =  6
>SZ 11 + 0 = 11
>WT  5 + 0 =  5
>WL 12 + 5 = 17
>SP 16 + 1 = 17
>DF 15 + 2 = 17
>
>There are obviously better areas for the 3 17's to be in, but you take what you
>get I suppose.  This lunger should do about as well as the striker, maybe
>better because he'll have a style advantage over more opponents.  Run in
>no body armor, going 10-10-6-None for the first minute, 10-8-8-None in the
>second, and 8-6-6-None from the third on.  3-9-3-Dodge in desperation.  Run
>with the Shortspear vs. light (0,7), Longspear vs. medium (8,14), and
>Longsword vs. heavy (15,+).  Challenge finesse styles and other lungers.

By "finesse" styles, do you mean just AB's and PR's or do you also include
PL's and PS's?

>>My question is, what is the typical ratio of bad to good roll-ups?
>
>Extraordinarily high.  If you DA every roll-up that isn't pretty damn
>good, you're going to be spending a lot of money and seeing very little
>result for it (I spend a while trying to the get the "perfect" rollup.
>All I got was frustrated).

I am finding myself starting to get frustrated also, although more because
of my lack of knowledge about warrior design and fighting strategies than
because of lack of decent roll-ups.  I, unfortunately, don't have the time
or money to run in more that one arena so information is coming rather
slowly.

>Your experience is about as typical as they come.  You've just got to look
>at every roll-up as a viable character, and then try to figure out how
>you'd win with it.  If you just can't see a roll-up winning, DA it.  If
>you think you've found a way to make him win, go ahead and try it.  Nobody
>ever learned anything from the DA.

Good point.  Guess I need to experiment a bit more.

>Trump
>
>PS  I'd DA the last one --  I hate scum.  But I'd give the first two a
>chance.

I can see why you hate scum, (currently, 4 of the top 11 warriors in
Delarq Tor are TP's), but I may try one just for the experience.

Jim
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References

DM: Typical Roll-ups?
jas@rdii.com (Jim Smith)
Mon, 12 Apr 1993 23:26:35 +0000
Re: DM: Typical Roll-ups?
itlm013@dale.ucdavis.edu (Donnie Trump)
Tue, 13 Apr 1993 19:47:52 +0000

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DM: Typical Roll-ups?
jas@rdii.com (Jim Smith)
Mon, 12 Apr 1993 23:26:35 +0000
Re: DM: Typical Roll-ups?
itlm013@dale.ucdavis.edu (Donnie Trump)
Tue, 13 Apr 1993 19:47:52 +0000