Re: 2 more rollups

From: itlm013@dale.ucdavis.edu (Donnie Trump)

Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1993 17:55:08 +0000

In article <186231@pyramid.pyramid.com> khearn@pyrps5.eng.pyramid.com (Keith Hearn) writes:
>
>Well, Mayhem, Inc. is starting to turn around. We won two of our three
>   non-DA fights this week. Of course, the two DA fights were losses
>   as expected. They were both original warriors, made before I knew
>   anything, so they didn't have much long or short term potential,
>   anyway.

Congrats on your two wins.  If you're going 2-1 now, then you've
obviously been able to turn the team around.  Don't worry about the DA's,
everybody but the luckiest get their records wrecked by those.

One noted manager, who is on the note but whom I'm won't name, actually
had a character (Hill Troll, or something like that) who went 1-1, and
was promptly retired and not DA'd until his team had over 100 fights,
just so his record wouldn't suffer.

The things some primadonnas will do just to make themselves look
better!

>This, of course, leaves me with two rollups to deal with. Both look
>   somewhat interesting, but I'm not sure what to do with them.
>
>First off, there's the 10-13-6-16-8-8-9. Nice Wit, can easily be 21.
>   Everything else is decent. What would you suggest, and why? I'm
>   particularly interested in why you more experienced  (and you're
>   almost *all* more experienced than I) managers would pick one style
>   or another.

I doubt anyone's going to yell 16-19-6-17-9-8-9 AB without telling you
why.  It's just in our nature to be verbose.

I would go...

PR
ST 10 + 1 = 11
CN 13 + 0 = 13
SZ  6 + 0 =  6
WT 16 + 1 = 17
WL  8 + 1 =  9
SP  8 + 5 = 13
DF  9 + 6 = 15

I don't often go around telling people to make PR's, but this roll-up
pretty much screams it out loud.

11 strength is enough for *all* the PR weapons.  How many styles can say
	that?

13 con will make him survivable, allow him to take a couple lunger hits,
	and even give a bit of extra endurance against TPs.  Not nec-
	essary, but nice to have when you can get it.

6 size is perfect.  You can still get great damage, you get defensive
	bonuses, and you don't fall down *every* time you get hit.

17 wit is okay.  21 would be better, but I happen to believe that a high
	speed is necessary for rippers.  In the long run, a higher speed
	is better, since a 17 wit is easily trainable to 25 in AD.

9 will is pretty good for rippers, who conserve endurance well.  You can
	take down TPs in 6-7 minutes with 5 attacks/min, so you don't need
	ungodly endurance, and those fights vs. lungers usually last about
	30 seconds, or 3 minutes.  Guess which one you win. :)

13 speed is essential for riposting and dodging.  Rippers always try to
	riposte anyway, so why not facilitate it?  It helps with defending
	the defend location, with decisiveness, and with with the dodge.
	Combined, these can make a very deadly ripper indeed.

15 deftness is barebones minimum.  Usually, I prefer a 17, but in this
	case the rest of the roll-up looks good enough to overcome this
	initial problem.

Run him in APL/H to start with.  Try LO/HA vs. all armor types, and pray
to whatever god you worship that it turns out to be his favorite.  Run
him fairly conservatively in the first few minutes: 2-4-2-Parry, 3-5-3-Rip,
4-5-4-None, 7-5-5-None, 4-5-4-NOne, 2-3-2-None, then 3-6-3-Rip in Desper-
ation.  Challenges plungers and pikers first, then other rippers and
possibly TPs.  Avoid lungers and bashers like the plague.  After about 5
fights, start challenging strikers and wastes.  You wouldn't believe what
kind of stylistic advantage rippers have over them (when I was chartng
W/L records of style vs. style, rippers vs. those styles had the biggest
advantages: something like an 80% win ratio vs. strikers and 75% vs.
wastes).

You can run this guy to AD in about 25 fights.

>The second is a big guy, and not much more can be said about him. He's
>   8-9-17-10-9-8-9. What's the best style for someone who's only
>   distinguishing feature is his large size? Will he have any long
>   term potential? I'm quite willing to run a short term fighter who
>   will get me wins for a while, then head for the DA, if that's what
>   he'd be best for. I need to bring up my W/L ratio.

SL
ST  8 + 2 = 10
CN  9 + 0 =  9
SZ 17 + 0 = 17
WT 10 + 5 = 15
WL  9 + 0 =  9
SP  8 + 1 =  9
DF  9 + 6 = 15

10 strength.  Why?  Because I had an extra point and I'd like this guy to
	be able to use the longsword without a penalty.  This guy's not
	going to have a lot of endurance, either, so the extra damage might
	be just what is needed to put him over the edge.

9 con because that's what we were given.  I'd like a 5 Con so that WT and
	DF could be 17, but that's not possible just yet.

17 size.  I like 'em big.

15 wit.  Surprise some people with your skill learning ability, and the
	ability to use an epee.  It should discourage some challenges, if
	nothing else.

9 will is more than enough for slashers.  This slasher isn't burdened with
	a lot of endurance-burning speed, so he'll even last longer than
	his endurance rating will indicate.

15 deftness, just because.  Ever fight a 6'6 slasher who's well suited to
	an epee?  Scary stuff, gives TPs nightmares.  This also helps his
	attack and such.

With this guy, you're probably going to want to fight more defensives.
Plungers and pikers are pretty good, wastes are fair, but stay away from
rippers at least until you gets experts in decis and attack(shouldn't be
too long).  Go ALE/L, run him 10-6-6-None in the first minute, 10-4-8-None
in the second, and 8-2-8-None for the rest.  10-10-10-Decis in desperation,
just in case you get lucky and manage to get swing in.

>Arlon Greyfletch, Manager of Mayhem, Inc. / After nine turns of fights,
>Vithicar Arena (game #49) since turn 98  / we're 13-30-4. Not too good,
>khearn@pyramid.com                      / but things are starting to
>(408) 428-7304 or (510) 263-2701       / turn around.

Well, if nothing else, your kill/win ratio is pretty high! :)

Trump
dfcleary@ucdavis.edu

References

2 more rollups
khearn@pyrps5.eng.pyramid.com (Keith Hearn)
Wed, 21 Apr 1993 22:14:42 +0000

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2 more rollups
khearn@pyrps5.eng.pyramid.com (Keith Hearn)
Wed, 21 Apr 1993 22:14:42 +0000