Re: DM: Slashfest

From: jas@rdii.com (Jim Smith)

Date: Fri, 14 May 1993 16:58:48 +0000

In article <DAO.93May12124524@scribe.mitre.org> picasso@acs.bu.edu writes:
>> 8-3-12-17-17-10-17
>> SLASHING ATTACK
>> LEFT HANDED
>> VERY INTELLIGENT
>>   nothing short of a genius at keeping her foe's at swords point
>>   is a very crafty fighter
>>   uses an unusual fighting style, deadly to slower, less active foes
>>   has turned avoiding blows into an art form
>> SENSATIONALLY QUICK and ACTIVE
>> POOR ENDURANCE
>> VERY FRAIL
>> carries VERY LITTLE WEIGHT
>> INCREDIBLY QUICK and ELUSIVE
>> does GOOD DAMAGE
>> Has an EXPERT in INITIATIVE
>
>The overview looks good but the speed is TOO low, you certainly did
>not follow any advice that I would give about making slashers.

Alright David, you are the recognized expert on slashers, the original
roll-up was 3-3-12-14-15-10-13, what would you have done differently?
Keep in mind that this warrior is already SENSATIONALLY quick and active.

>I would train STR to 9 ASAP and use the scimitar, in the mean time I
>would go with the hatchet against all but the heaviest armor.

Yes, I was planning to do this.  I might even train ST to 11 to see if
I can get great damage.  I am also planning on training CN a couple of
times within the next 10 turns.

>> 9-5-9-15-8-17-21
>> SLASHING ATTACK
>> INTELLIGENT
>>   nothing short of a genius at keeping his foes off balance and in trouble
>>   makes the most of his enemy's mistakes
>>   makes very clever attacks
>>   is always thinking ahead
>> SENSATIONALLY QUICK and ACTIVE
>> VERY HIGHLY COORDINATED
>>   with the ability to use a weapon in each hand
>> POOR ENDURANCE
>> VERY FRAIL
>> carries VERY LITTLE WEIGHT
>> INCREDIBLY QUICK and ELUSIVE
>> Has an expert in INITIATIVE
>> Has an expert in RIPOSTE
>
>This guy looks better, too much DF and not enough WL. If you do not
>mind losing some skills then train WL to 9. Then train skills forever.

OK, what do you think the optimum stats are for a slasher?  The original
roll-up for this guy was 9-5-9-10-8-13-16.  Again, what would you have
done different.

>> Both of these look like they should be run in ALE/L going 10-10-7 minute
>> one, challenge TP's and other nonoffensives and pray that they don't get
>> hit too often.  What do all you more experienced managers say?
>>
>
>These are slashers that you are runnign not lungers !!! How can you
>look at the guys and say "Both of these look like they should be run in
>ALE/L going 10-10-7 minute one" ?

I'm going by what limited experience I've had so far.  I've been running my
first slasher (11-4(5)-9-15-17-15-13) 10-8-6 min 1, 8-5-6 min 2, 6-3-6-Slash
min 3, 6-1-6-Slash min 4-> and 3-9-3-Dodge.  She is 4-3-2 (along with some
unknown number of tourney fights) and appears to be doing OK with the high
activity level in minute 1.  I will admit that all her losses did occur in
minutes 1 and 2, but so did three of her wins, (including a kill in min 1.)

>Have you ever seen a ADM slasher ? Slasher like a low to moderate
>activity level.

We aren't talking about an ADM slasher here.  This is a slasher on his
first fight.  I can see running a more moderate activity level after 5-10
fights or so, but why right off.  Seems to me you would just be standing
there asking for someone to kill you.

>I would go 9-3-6 in the first minute and 9-5-7 in
>desperation (you could use decis here but I wouldn't your attack will
>go down).

Even though they are both very frail?  If you slow them down, won't they
be more likely to get hit, ending the fight instantly (and possibly dying
in the process?)

>Why would you want to challenge "TP's and other nonoffensives" these
>guys are just going to parry you and you will drop from exhaustion. Go

It would be worth a couple of potential losses to TP's to ensure that
the warriors survive.  After 5 or 10 fights, they would have the speed
and survivability needed to take on the offensives, but not right away.

>after other offensives, especially LUNGERS, they will be slower. If
>you lose to the other offensives (ie do not get the first swing) they
>you are not ready to play with the big boys, probably because of your
>poor design.

But if they DO survive (by picking smart challenges) and improve to the
point that they CAN take on the offensives, (and take an occasional hit),
then they might just turn out to be better designed for the long run.

>Go after the defensive guys with something like 6-1-6 strategy for as
>long as you will hold out and use the slash tactic.

Good point here.  If I'm fighting defensives, by definition I don't really
need to crank up the activity level.

>Wizard of Oz

Jim
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References

DM: Slashfest
jas@rdii.com (Jim Smith)
Wed, 12 May 1993 04:03:49 +0000
Re: DM: Slashfest
dao@scribe.mitre.org (David A. Ondzes)
Wed, 12 May 1993 17:45:24 +0000

Referenced By

DM: Slashfest
jas@rdii.com (Jim Smith)
Wed, 12 May 1993 04:03:49 +0000
Re: DM: Slashfest
dao@scribe.mitre.org (David A. Ondzes)
Wed, 12 May 1993 17:45:24 +0000