Re: PBM design and formulae - a fresh start

From: gilette@obsidian.unice.fr (Gilette Serge)

Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1993 09:13:45 +0000

In article <1993Jul2.145428.637@cs.tcd.ie>, rwallace@cs.tcd.ie (Russell Wallace) writes:

|> BUT:  Because a game is not reality, you can't use judgement and
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|> intuition from the real world, in the game.  The information is coming

So really sure that you don't ? if the game is a game about survival and
that you're in a desert, and you know there is a city west, i'll bet you'll
follow the sun course to go west no ?? isn't that some real world
experience ?

And if you CAN't use (that's your statement) your judgement then it's surely
not a simulation game !!! The idea of a simulation game is TO SIMULATE REAL-WORLD
It's a matter of fact that you cannot, but that's your aim, so players are
supposed to think as they would in REAL life.

|> >So if we are to write a good simulation of tennis we should not
|> >make it equation based, or rather we might have the ball obey
|> >equations, but the interface with the human would not be through
|> >equations. We would not ask tell the player - oh the ball is coming
|> >at you with the following parameters ... what parameters would you
|> >like to reply with. What we would do instead is say have a small
|> >picture of the racquet showing its tilt etc (no figures just the
|> >picture). Through practice the players would get to know how to
|> >position the picture to hit certain shots.
|>
|> Ah, but: For a player to use intuition, requires that the information
|> come in the same form it would in real life, and the output be in the

Or at least something close, and a real-time changing picture with sound
is something close enough to reality to use your experience.

|> same form, i.e. it would have to be a VR simulator.  If you can't have
|> that, and all you get is some numbers on a piece of paper, then the best
|> way to approach such a game is to attempt to derive the formulas that
|> the computer is using.

Have you ever played any real-time flight simulators or any arcade game ?
i bet you it's not the same as having numbers on a piece of paper. Don't
be so drastic.

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References

Re: PBM design and formulae - a summary
desj@ccr-p.ida.org (David desJardins)
Mon, 28 Jun 1993 20:30:42 +0000
Re: PBM design and formulae - a summary
gym@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Graham Matthews)
Tue, 29 Jun 1993 11:55:07 +0000
Re: PBM design and formulae - a summary
desj@ccr-p.ida.org (David desJardins)
Tue, 29 Jun 1993 21:24:09 +0000
Re: PBM design and formulae - a summary
gym@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Graham Matthews)
Wed, 30 Jun 1993 10:33:28 +0000
Re: PBM design and formulae - a summary
gym@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Graham Matthews)
Thu, 01 Jul 1993 11:40:27 +0000
PBM design and formulae - a summary
rob@ccc.govt.nz (Rob McNeur)
Mon, 28 Jun 1993 09:53:02 +0000
Re: PBM design and formulae - a summary
rwallace@cs.tcd.ie (Russell Wallace)
Wed, 30 Jun 1993 23:25:42 +0000
PBM design and formulae - a fresh start
gym@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Graham Matthews)
Fri, 02 Jul 1993 12:01:01 +0000
Re: PBM design and formulae - a fresh start
rwallace@cs.tcd.ie (Russell Wallace)
Fri, 02 Jul 1993 14:54:28 +0000