Galaxy alliance wins

From: graeme@abekrd.co.uk (Graeme Griffiths)

Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 10:08:57 +0000

In <37m827$s78@nyx10.cs.du.edu> rnovak@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Robert Novak) writes:

>I think some games used relative size of victors to determine the number
>of points. I twas discussed a while back on galaxy-list, I think... makes
>alliances less interesting for people of power.

I'd appreciate a resume of the idea behind this because, to me, it does
entirely the opposite. Theres no point in alliance members ganging in
increasingly smaller alliances against other (probably larger) allies in
an attempt to gain more HoF points. They'll get a share anyway not much
but more than they'd get if an attack failed.

Theres less incentive for the largest power in the alliance. If the points
were split equally the larger power would (well, if it was me anyway) take
out all but the strongest of his allies because each member (no matter how
small) takes a huge chunk of points.

For example an alliance of 5 players has finished taking out their enemies
in a 60 player game.

Player 1 has 40000 Industry
Player 2 has 5000 Industry
Player 3 has 5000 Industry
Player 4 has 5000 Industry
Player 5 has 5000 Industry

Under the current system Player 1 would get 40 points and the others would
each get 5. Player 1 would probaby say "Sod it, its not worth 10+ hours a
turn to take these guys out, they've done their share let them have 5 pts."

If he was only on for 12 pts and so were his allies it may be a different
story after all how long could it take.....

The rules actually state:

> Note that alliance victories are NOT allowed; there can be only ONE winner.

Now I realise that the end game takes more time (If bigun comes back
on-line I'm facing long agonising turns myself) but that should be
understood by all the players when they make a commitment to play in the
game (Perhaps GM's should make this clear to all entrants in new games ?).
If you want short turns start to finish play in smaller games.

Of course we could ammend the rules about alliances so that it states :

> Alliance victories are allowed at the GMs discretion

which is the current case anyway but I would like to see a limit placed on
the number of winners allowed (3 maybe) because the HoF looks fairly daft
with loads of people on less than 1pt. (Zeus had 11 winners 3 of which got
a huge 0.2 points)

Thoughts ?

I'll attempt to mirror this onto the galaxy-list too.
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References

Re: Galaxy Hall of Fame innacuracies ? Help Please !
rnovak@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Robert Novak)
Fri, 14 Oct 1994 15:28:07 +0000
Galaxy Hall of Fame innacuracies ? Help Please !
graeme@abekrd.co.uk (Graeme Griffiths)
Fri, 14 Oct 1994 14:23:12 +0000

Referenced By

Re: Galaxy Hall of Fame innacuracies ? Help Please !
rnovak@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Robert Novak)
Fri, 14 Oct 1994 15:28:07 +0000
Galaxy Hall of Fame innacuracies ? Help Please !
graeme@abekrd.co.uk (Graeme Griffiths)
Fri, 14 Oct 1994 14:23:12 +0000