Re: Spellbinder Games - best avoided!

From: ggshaw11@aol.com (GGShaw11)

Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 00:00:00 +0000

>I don;t know you from Adam, GG Shaw.
>Who exactly *are* you.  We only have your word for it that this is a real cut
>from a Spellbinder message.  Now admittedly I might be naive, but I can't
>believe that they would write a message like that.  How do we know that half
>of
>it isn't your own creation to slate them?  I don't mean to be rude, but put
>yourselves on the other side and consider what I am saying.  You make these
>wild accusations about a long-term PBM firm with a respectable history.  But
>you could just as easily b somebody with a grudge telling us a pack of lies.
>
Yes, I could be, but I assure you I'm not. I have sent you the message from
them including all the header info by email, so you can see for yourself that
it is genuine. I don't think you're naive Steve, probably just like to see the
best in everyone :) To be honest I've got better things to do with my time than
make up stuff like that, and do you honestly believe I would make up anything
that OTT! As you can see, it's far too extreme to be believeable!  No, sad to
say it is 100% genuine.

>>>What an utter load of rubbish, so to play a game by Email you have to
>have `player front end software<<
>
>While the language (if it realy was said) is a little rude, he does have a
>point.  I would agree that play-by-email simply means playing a game by
>E-Mail... front ends etc are pretty tag ons, but the game you describe
>certainly *is* still a play by Email game.  because... you play it by E-Mail.
>Duh! <grin>
>
Whatever<sigh>. The point is in the attitude, not the content. But if you want
to discuss that too, I'm game. Do you think PBM has much future if GM's
continue to send ASCII (even non-ASCII and badly formatted as in this case)
reports to players and calls it an email game? Maybe in the short term, but I
think it could be a case of burying of heads in sand.

I'm wondering what the point is of playing by email if the game is identical to
what it is through snail mail, except that the GM doesn't print out anything
nicely for you. Pay the same price, get the same turnaround, fiddle for ages
trying to get the words you want into their Word document boxes. I'd far rather
fill in a paper turnsheet than go through that nightmare (which, for the
benefit of the guy who talked about time) was FAR more time consuming than
loading up a front end and using a point and click interface.

>>>Up yours smart ass<<
>
>Well, this seems pretty over the top, but then to make a GM so angry I wonder
>what you'd said to him in the past and what other letters, which you don't
>print, form a history here.  I like to see both sides of a story before
>making
>judgment.  So far all we've seen is yours, and Im just not convinced this is
>the whole picture.
>
I sent some contributions to their mailing list making some comments on the
game. They didn't like what I said, because I didn't think it was perfect. It
*was* a playtest, so I thought it was reasonable to talk about all aspects of
the thing. Wish I hadn't bothered now, after getting abuse like that! Obviously
Chris didn't like the way I said things, but that's life, we can't all get
along like best pals. Oh, and the only match I played in Kickabout I beat
Chris's team - maybe he's just a bad loser ;)

John

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Re: Spellbinder Games - best avoided!
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Fri, 27 Nov 1998 00:00:00 +0000

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Re: Spellbinder Games - best avoided!
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Fri, 27 Nov 1998 00:00:00 +0000