Re: Map Generator....

From: verratta <verrattaNOveSPAM@yahoo.com.invalid>

Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 00:00:00 +0000

Ive really poped into this thread pretty late, but your remarks on some
buisness's con or convinceing people to but things just to make
a buck is just plain wrong. ALL buisness are doing their best to make a
buck! and there is nothing wrong with that. If I am trying to sell a
piece of crap I end up alienating a lager piece of the market then I
screw over, so in the end I lose out, and someone else, making a better
product, puts me out of buisness. Or atleast cuts into my market share.

A good example would be TSR's ADnD program version whatever. I don't
remember. It has two map creation programs, alot of the rules and other
gaming accessories. A freind of mine bought it and frankly the map
programs suck. I have no intention of buying it and neither do a good
number of other gamers I know, just from one freind's bad experience.
He got screwed, but the company lost out on atleast 5 other people
buying it.

I also don't think you give enough credit to the poor. In the last ten
years I have been more poor then middle class, and while I have bought
plenty of things I didn't need, Ive never bought anything I didn't want
or need. And excluding entertainment products, no commercial, add or
marketing ploy has ever convinced me to do otherwise.

Chris
verrattaNoSpam@yahooNOSPAM.com
http://members.xoom.com/twilitehouse

In article <htp-2301001029380001@192.168.1.2>, htp@mac.com (Henry)
wrote:
> In article <86d65j$jc8@crl3.crl.com>, gherbert@crl3.crl.com (George
> Herbert) wrote:
> > Companies trying to sell things really should spend appropriate
> > amounts on proper marketing research, user group surveys and
> > a few focus groups to analyze user responses to your UI and
> > presentation, and proper site designers to impliment the results
> > of the above.
> Companies trying to con(vince) people into buying something have
> one, and
> only one, goal - to get people to part with their cash.  All other
> considerations are secondary.  A fantastic UI element will be
> discarded if
> it results in a net loss of 5% in sales.  The commercial web
> designer
> compromises standards and the 'ideal' user interface in order to
> maximise
> sales - nothing more.
> > Depreciating marketing is a common geek trait,
> > but doesn't survive contact with the actual business world.
> Marketing concerns itself with determining how a customer base can
> be
> manipulated into buying products that they haven't heard of, don't
> need,
> don't want, and can't afford.
> What does it say about the moral fibre of 'geeks' if they _do_not_
> support
> calculated manipulation of consumers in order to transfer weath
> from the
> poor to the rich?
> Devalue morals and ethics at your own peril.
> Henry.

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Re: Map Generator....
Ilya <ilya@spam.free.gamecommandos.com>
Tue, 18 Jan 2000 00:00:00 +0000
Re: Map Generator....
"Terry Austin" <taustin@hyperbooks.com>
Thu, 20 Jan 2000 00:00:00 +0000
Re: Map Generator....
tim@leaphome.pelican.org (Tim Franklin)
Fri, 21 Jan 2000 00:00:00 +0000
Re: Map Generator....
"Terry Austin" <taustin@hyperbooks.com>
Fri, 21 Jan 2000 00:00:00 +0000
Re: Map Generator....
gherbert@crl3.crl.com (George Herbert)
Sat, 22 Jan 2000 00:00:00 +0000
Re: Map Generator....
htp@mac.com (Henry)
Sun, 23 Jan 2000 00:00:00 +0000