Re: Argumentative Styles

From: "Steve Pritchard" <steve@spelbind.demon.co.uk>

Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 00:00:00 +0000

Greg Lindahl <lindahl@rt.com> wrote in message
news:8cq80a020ta@news1.newsguy.com...
> "Steve Pritchard" <steve@spelbind.demon.co.uk> writes:
> > Sure, criticise their games and style. Don't criticise how they run
their
> > business if they are clearly successful in doing so.
>
> Wow. I never realized that players were so irrelevant. Again, I've
> heard many players make very valid criticisms of PBM businesses over
> the years.

Okay, but how many players criticse every Gm they come into contact with,
Greg? How many GM's - certainly the full-time ones - that use this forum
have come in for criticism from your good self? I'd say almost all of
them.

> > Of course they can, but validity carries more weight.
>
> Have fun living in your little world.

This is supposed to be a comeback, is it? A put-down? Gods, you need
practice.

> But it's a good illustration of how most criticisms turn into
> flamewars, with GMs like you attacking the criticiser's experience
> instead of their criticism.

GM's like me? Okay Greg, so why do you feel that the GM's should actually
listen to your criticisms? You suggest that players should be able to
criticise as they see fit. Players of MY games can criticise MY games
whenever they wish. If I think the criticisms hold water then I'll look at
what to do about them. I've modified my games based on player's comments
more times than I can count. At the end of each Kickabout season the game
becomes an open forum for player comments and each season the odd rule or
two is introduced or altered to reflect their thoughts.

Your comments, on the other hand, are generally aimed at the business
practises of the GM's and not their games. Even were you a customer of
mine I'd hold such comments in pretty scant regard. The fact that you are
not a customer of mine, and you never will be, means I find such comments
totally worthless. Until you have played in my games and understand how I
run them you have nothing of any value to tell me.

Can't be much clearer than that, can I?

It's not a flame or an argument, just a statement of fact.

References

Re: Argumentative Styles
"Steve Pritchard" <steve@spelbind.demon.co.uk>
Sun, 09 Apr 2000 00:00:00 +0000
Re: Argumentative Styles
lindahl@rt.com (Greg Lindahl)
Sun, 09 Apr 2000 00:00:00 +0000

Referenced By

Re: Argumentative Styles
"Steve Pritchard" <steve@spelbind.demon.co.uk>
Sun, 09 Apr 2000 00:00:00 +0000
Re: Argumentative Styles
lindahl@rt.com (Greg Lindahl)
Sun, 09 Apr 2000 00:00:00 +0000