Re: The GM: Is help a budding GM

From: mmmark@my-deja.com

Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 00:00:00 +0000

In article <8daarj$kjq$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
  mmmark@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <8cp1e441f2j@news2.newsguy.com>,
>   lindahl@rt.com (Greg Lindahl) wrote:
> > mmmark@my-deja.com writes:
> >
> > > Gregory avoids the specific question:
> >
> > You avoided mine, so shut up.
>
> The debating style is getting there Gregory :)
>
> Your question came after mine as an attempt to avoid answering it. It
> was a 'when did you stop beating your wife' type question designed not
> to be answered so you'd have an excuse for ignoring my question.
>
> So - I'll answer it and then you can answer mine and end up looking
> stupid or ignore it and look stupid.
>
> Actually you didn't even ask a question - you simply said it should be
> easy for me to explain the tests that would show a sample of 100 to be
> insignificant. I asked you what you would consider to be a significant
> sample.
>
> So in answer to your non-question: Yes, I could explain simple tests
> that would show a sample of 100 to be insignificant. Those tests would
> need to be combined with inappropriate assumptions about the
> size of the relevent literature and the distribution of the IDA
papers.
> Rather than contest the specifics of those assumptions I ask again -
how
> large a sample would you accept as significant? I'm sure than no
matter
> how ridiculously oversized the sample you select the answer will be
the
> same - namely that IDA papers constitute a minute fraction of the
> statistics literature. I have access to an extremely comprehensive
> electronic database so let's go  :)
>
> Just to remind you: the question was -
> "Gregory - if there is no record of any IDA paper _ever_ being
published
> in one of the top twenty international statistics journals (as ranked
by
> the international BIDS grading scheme) would you concede that not
> knowing what IDA stood for would not mean that I didn't learn much on
my
> phd? Just establishing some boundaries here. :)"
>
> Strangely I spent much of last week with a man whose worked in the
> American defence industry for the last 35 years. He had heard of IDA
and
> told me it is a private, though wholly government funded, organisation
> employing around 1000 people. Now even if all of those 1000 were
> research scientists they'd still only amount to a few percent of the
> research scientists in the US defence business. Then you lob in all
the
> university scientists... and then all the scientists from defence and
> universities and industry from the entire world and you'll see why IDA
> papers constitute a vanishingly small fraction of the contents of
> statistics journals. So - purely in the interest of bringing around
the
> historic 'first time Gregory admits he was wrong' event - how large a
> sample would it take for you to admit that not having memorised the
> acronym IDA does not mean I didn't learn much during my Phd?  :)
>
> > > Do you consider yourself to be an arrogant man Gregory?
> >
> > At times. Now I'm sure you'll insult me for a dozen postings for
> > behing honest.
>
> No - I'll criticise you for being a hypocrit. I didn't call you
arrogant
> - but after you called me arrogant in a whole series of posts we now
> come to the situation where you admit that you're arrogant.
>
> Not long ago you made inappropriate use of the phrase
'pot-kettle-black'
> and now here we are with an ideal opportunity to put it to its correct
> use  :)
>
> And now the funny bit - You're slagging me off for being arrogant...
I'M
> COPYING YOU GREGORY!  :)

And that concludes the show folks - Gregory can't bring himself to admit
he was wrong and has finally clued up that the best damage limitation is
for him to shut up. Gregory has been Gregoried. Thankyou for your time
- there'll be no more flamage from me. :)

Hey! Let's talk about PBM....

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References

Re: The GM: Is help a budding GM
mmmark@my-deja.com
Sat, 08 Apr 2000 00:00:00 +0000
Re: The GM: Is help a budding GM
lindahl@rt.com (Greg Lindahl)
Sun, 09 Apr 2000 00:00:00 +0000
Re: The GM: Is help a budding GM
mmmark@my-deja.com
Sat, 15 Apr 2000 00:00:00 +0000