Re: More Arguments. Favourite games.

From: lindahl@pbm.com (Greg Lindahl)

Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 00:42:45 +0000

In article <3ad643f7.151279659@news.iol.ie>,
Russell Wallace <rwallace@esatclear.ie> wrote:

>In Olympia, most things center around nobles. All other kinds of men
>are, literally, possessions. This was something I didn't want in
>Atlantis; I wanted normal employees to be capable of doing at least
>some things, rather than only being tools to allow a noble to do them.

OK, that makes sense.

>The results of the Atlantis 1.0 playtest proved you need _some_
>metagame-level limiting mechanism to keep an open-ended game going,
>but it seemed to me that noble points, for better or worse, would not
>fit in with the rest of the design.

Right. So the other mechanisms that I've seen have not done that well,
either. The silliest (no offense, Geoff) was the "choose 1 of magic,
war, or trade". I got 2 allies and did the obvious thing, and it was
just as bad as the playtest.

So if we were starting afresh, what new, clever idea would people
pick?

BTW, I looked into adding noble points into the Atlantis source code,
and it was easy, easier than fixing all of Russel's O(N^2) algorithms
with O(1) and O(NlogN) algorithms. I called the result Olantis ;-),
and anyone who wants to brave debugging the source is welcome to have
it. It might be easier to add noble points to the Eressea code base,
though.

-- g

References

More Arguments. Favourite games.
"Enno Rehling" <schick.mir.spam@gmx.de>
Mon, 09 Apr 2001 20:49:16 +0000
Re: More Arguments. Favourite games.
lindahl@pbm.com (Greg Lindahl)
Mon, 09 Apr 2001 23:47:54 +0000
Re: More Arguments. Favourite games.
rwallace@esatclear.ie (Russell Wallace)
Fri, 13 Apr 2001 00:17:12 +0000

Referenced By

More Arguments. Favourite games.
"Enno Rehling" <schick.mir.spam@gmx.de>
Mon, 09 Apr 2001 20:49:16 +0000
Re: More Arguments. Favourite games.
lindahl@pbm.com (Greg Lindahl)
Mon, 09 Apr 2001 23:47:54 +0000
Re: More Arguments. Favourite games.
rwallace@esatclear.ie (Russell Wallace)
Fri, 13 Apr 2001 00:17:12 +0000