Re: Need programers

From: madcentral@aol.com (MadCentral)

Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 12:51:37 +0000

> You
seem to be fervently arguing that our project is no different than
hundreds of others without sufficient knowledge to draw that conclusion.<<

Im not fervently arguing *anything*.   Just trying to be helpful.  You are
mssing the point.  The point is that if I dont have sufficient knowledge to
draw a conclusion, neither does any potential programmer reading your messages.

>>The game concept may have similarities to other games on the marker
(almost any game will),<<

You didnt say so originally, though.

>> but it does have a proven track record as a
board game, a decent though small track record as a humn moderated PBEM,<<

You didnt say this either, although to be honest this isn't as useful a fact as
the board game one, because there are thousands of human-moderated PBEMs that
would say they had a decent track record.

>>and here is the important one; we have a proven track record as a
business.<<

More so than all the other similar firms who might also be looking for a 'no
cash up front' programmer?  Maybe you do, but how does the programmer know
that?

>> What really sets this project apart from the others? The
business model behind it. <<

Business Model schmizzness model.  You are trying to recruit a hobby
programmer, without paying them any physical cash up front.  Trust me when I
tell you that talk of "business models" are not going to impress most of them.
You are basically trying to find something very rare, without offering the sort
of bait that such animals look for.

>>We'll share some of that information with
potential programmers, but no offense, we're not posting publicly.<<

No offense taken.  Its not something thatwould interest me anyway.  I have my
own "business model", and it works pretty well. <g>

>>I'm sorry, but you are not informed enough regarding the business model
to really be able to comment on it. You can only speculate.<<

Sure, thats all I was doing.  Speculating.  That's all a programmer reading
your ad would be doing too.

>>We do provide a pretty good overview of the project and business model
to potential programmers.<<

Given your admitted lack of success thus far, you dont wonder if maybe you're
going about this the wrong way?  <sigh>  Look, in the end, Im just some joe
with my own way of doing things.  Your way could be much better, and since you
don't actually seem to want advice on this, I'll stop giving it.

>> Everything that we feel we can provide prior
to a NDA being signed. Its enough for most people to decide if they want
to *really* know more.<<

But nobody has decided to DO IT for you yet, have they?

>> Thats just not the kind of information one would
post here for the sake of a discussion such as this. :)  <<

Everybody has their own idea of what they will or wont post.  Nobody wants you
to post any big secrets in your marketing plans.  Im sure they are very clever,
very original and very snazzy!  Good for you.

Good luck!

Steve T.

References

Re: Need programers
Ryan Johnson <dowrie@guildofblades.com>
Thu, 23 May 2002 12:35:59 +0000

Referenced By

Re: Need programers
Ryan Johnson <dowrie@guildofblades.com>
Thu, 23 May 2002 12:35:59 +0000