Re: Diplomacy rules question

From: v077mdph@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (John of Gaunt)

Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1992 21:43:00 +0000

In article <1992Feb24.192245.3715@riacs.edu>, nicholso@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Melvin H. Nicholson YBH) writes...
>In article <1992Feb24.183356.29583@gdr.bath.ac.uk> chpetk@uk.ac.bath.gdr (Toby Kelsey) writes:
>>
>> I have been only playing Diplomacy for a short time, and a
>>position has arisen which the rules are unclear about.
>>
>>Move:
>>(English) Fleet Norway -> Sweden
>>(German) Fleet Denmark s. Fl. Norway -> Sweden
>>(English) Fleet North Sea -> Norway
>>(English) Fleet Norwegian Sea s. Fl. North Sea -> Norway
>>(Russian) Army Finland -> Norway
>>(Russian) Fleet Sweden s. A. Finland -> Norway
>>(Russian) Fleet St. Petersburg (N. Coast) s. A. Finland -> Norway
>>[ s. = supports ]
>>
>>Obviously the attack on Sweden succeeds.
>[remainder deleted]>
>
>No.  The attack on Sweden fails.  This is where you misunderstand the
>example.  You are correct that the attack from Norway cannot cut support
>to itself.

This is not correct.  Read section ten of the rulebook.  The Swedish
support is broken because Fleet Sweden is dislodged.

What you miss is that because the unit it is attacking is
>in support of the attack on itself, the two attack are directly
>opposing, so the stregth 3 attack *from* sweeden succeeds, and the
>stength 2 attack *to* sweeden fails.  If we delete the english attack
>the result is the same(the second english attack, that is).

This, too, is incorrect.  There are three attacks.  The strictly English
and strictly Russian attacks on Norway, which are directly opposed.  Then there
is the English-German attack on Sweden.  Sweden has no support, and faces two
units, so it falls.  In the process, its support for the attack on Norway fails,
and both attacks on Norway bounce.

>Mel

--John of Gaunt ( again )

References

Diplomacy rules question
chpetk@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Toby Kelsey)
Mon, 24 Feb 1992 18:33:56 +0000
Re: Diplomacy rules question
nicholso@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Melvin H. Nicholson YBH)
Mon, 24 Feb 1992 19:22:45 +0000