Re: REPOST: Duelmasters - Skills, I've Seen a Few

From: kanga.caltech.edu!johnjohn (John White)

Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1992 19:50:48 +0000

In article <1992Mar10.060339.6353@cco.caltech.edu> kanga.caltech.edu!johnjohn
(John White) writes:
>I guess Demon is still having posting problems despite my frequent
suggestions,
>so, at my request, he put together from memory his post on skills, as no one
>had apparantly seen it or responded to it.  The text follows.  Remember, I
>didn't write this, Demon did.  I included his .sig too.  Lovely thing that it
>is.  I need some sleep.  Dammit.
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>    Each skill achieved in an area adds five points to the characters
>ability.  Thus a character who has the equivalent of 10 skills in
>riposte has a rating of 50.  Often, managers talk about their
>warriors skill levels with these numbers.  Indeed, while this has
>been the practice for a few years, I personally saw confirmation of
>this at the summer Face-to-Face in Baltimore.

No offense intended, and this doesn't really have anything to do with this
article, but whoever thought up this rating system wasn't thinking!  Why is
there any need for a 5 point equivalent rating system when you can just as
easily (and with less effort) talk about skills in terms of # of skills?  Why
say, "my lunger started out with an 60 attack" forcing everyone to do the math
in their heads to come up with the fact that this is two skills short of
expert, when you can just as easily say, "my lunger started out with 14 attack
skills."  It takes 16 to get expert.  No probelms with the math.  Great.  5
point increments just clouds the issue.  But that's just my opinion.

>    Without some inside info, the only way to find out a characters
>rating in an area is for one of six ratings to be achieved.  They
>are listed below, with the necessary skill level to attain them.
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>                Expert           (Ex)        80
>                Advanced Expert  (AdEx)     100
>                Master           (Mas)      130
>                Advanced Master  (AdMas)    170
>                Grandmaster      (?)        220
>                Arch-Master      (?)        280
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>    Again, these rating levels were confirmed to me at the Baltimore
>FtF.

Common knowlege.  An easier way to think of it is 4 skills from Ex. to AdEx.  6
Skills from AdEx to Master.  8 skills from Master to AdMaster.  10 skills from
AdMaster to Grand Master.  12 skills from Grand Master to Arch Master.  See how
easy it is to think of things in that way....

>    After character creation skills can be gained in two ways.  The
>most obvious of these is to train skills during a fight.  This will
>result in the character learning from 0-7 skills a fight, based on a

I've never had a 7 skill learn.  Anyone else?  I think its 6...

>   This point is where I begin to discuss what all of the patient,
>experienced managers who have waded through the stuff they already
>know are looking for.  The latest theory I have heard suggests that
>in addition to the absolute skill breakpoints, training stats to any
>other number also has a chance at raising a character's rating in any
>of the areas that that stat affects.  This is not guaranteed to
>happen, but instead there is a certain percentage chance of this
>happening each time the stat is raised.
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>        eg.  Joe Blow has a 15 Strength, and trains it to 16.
>    Strength affects a character's Attack and Parry rating, so there
>    is a chance that this stat raise will increase his Att rating by
>    5, and another, independant chance that his Par rating will be
>    increased by 5.
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>    It is probable that this also occurs during character generation,
>and may be the luck factor in a character's initial skill ratings.

There has been much talk about the "luck factor" determining how many skills
your warrior gets at generation, but even with my limited experience, it looks
like an independant roll is made for each separate skill area.

>    I hope that this has been informative to everyone interested in
>Duelmasters, and I expect that at least the last part of it will stir
>up some discussion on the net.  Unfortunately, I probably won't be
>able to participate in it (at least in so far as any of you will see)
>since I have been having problems with my news server distributing
>posts beyond Acadia.  If something really draws my attention, I will
>ask John to post my response for me.  more likely, i will repond to
>the poster by e-mail.
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Why is there so much blank space here?  Why didn't I edit it out?  Hmmm...

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REPOST: Duelmasters - Skills, I've Seen a Few
kanga.caltech.edu!johnjohn (John White)
Tue, 10 Mar 1992 06:03:39 +0000