Re: Olympia combat

From: jwoolsey@cad1.gfx.engga.uwo.ca (John J. Woolsey)

Date: Fri, 15 May 1992 04:10:07 +0000

In article <2A12C550.27506@noiro.acs.uci.edu> cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
>russell wallace writes
>>                            I personally think that the
>> solution for people who want to avoid being killed is to
>> have an effective combat system, but for players to set up
>> areas which are relatively safe (like Drassa now that
>> Zyzak's been killed :-( ) so that timid people can stay
>> there.
>
>I think that is exactly the right way to solve this "problem". Just
>make certain that a really powerful and determined player or coalition
>of players still could defeat the city guards. No god units, please.

If the newbies can be `dropped' into such a safe place this makes sense.
I also like the hidden for x turns as `insubstantial' to the world routine.
It makes sense that newbies wouldn't be noticed, and most newbies would have
spent all their money in that time, and no longer be a target. BTW God since
Drassa is currently a safe place why not drop all newbies there next update
:-) Just a thought for a stopgap measure.
>
>Well, I believe the fun of such a game goes with the square of the
>number of players (as long as you don't have to be the game master.....
>:-) ), so this would be an overall loss.

I agree bigger games are more fun. (So stop killing Newbies :-).
>
>I disagree completely. Already the manual contains more information
>than it really should have to. A short description of the world and
>list of commands and what they do (in general terms - not all the
>details) is all there should be (with a possible additional text with
>hints for newbies). Learning how things work and interact in detail and
>exchanging that information with other players is half the fun. The
>more of the real information which can be moved into level 1+ lore
>sheets the better.

As a `newbie' myself the main problem with not having any information available
is that you DO NOT KNOW what works. I was thinking of having entertainment
groups to support my troops, but recent mods to the code make this seem
useless. I can set up my troops to entertain, and they make less money then
working. I don't want my troops screwing up, and my morale going through the
tubes. Working is safer (and from the looks of things more profitable.) I do
not really mind experimenting with what works, but there are two problems with
this. I either spend my orriginal time running away looking for Drassa, or I
have to get my butt in gear, and build up a major defense force. Either way
I really need information to figure out what to do. From what people have
been saying all I really have to do is keep my player continuously moving,
and I can't be a target, but with the mods and all I do not want to bet my
life on it.

BTW Whenever I kill people in GB there is usually one ally at least who has no
real idea how to fight who decides that he is going to attack me since I am a
horrible terrible person who kills people. This usually aims my next order of
attack. I am happy people here have actually managed to stand for law and
order and known how to defend it. I tried to play a nice friendly race in GB
but the game is not set up to support it. Let's try to steer this game away
from one where killing people is the easiest way to advance. I have NO problem
with being able to kill people. If you dislike someone enough you should be
able to bash on them, but I think you shouldn't gain from it as much as you
seem to do. Of course I have NO idea what it takes to make 7K of gold in other
ways since the docs don't explain it. Nore how long to study to gain 1 level
of skill or a million and a half other questions which might save my butt from
one of the wonderous vultures. (BTW I will have 0 cash about 10 secs after the
first update if you are wondering out there :-)

References

Re: Olympia combat
rwallace@unix1.tcd.ie (russell wallace)
Thu, 14 May 1992 17:29:06 +0000
Re: Olympia combat
cedman@714-725-3177.nts.uci.edu (Carl Edman)
Thu, 14 May 1992 19:53:52 +0000

Referenced By

Re: Olympia combat
rwallace@unix1.tcd.ie (russell wallace)
Thu, 14 May 1992 17:29:06 +0000
Re: Olympia combat
cedman@714-725-3177.nts.uci.edu (Carl Edman)
Thu, 14 May 1992 19:53:52 +0000