Re: DM: rollup

From: johnjohn@cco.caltech.edu (John White)

Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1992 00:10:46 +0000

In article <1992Jun5.234513.26263@aero.org> hlavaty@aerospace.aero.org
(Grisel Gonzalez) writes:
>I recently DA'ed a PR that was going no where and I received this:
>
>12-10-4-10-13-8-13
>
>Oh, what I would do for an extra point in wit! :( The three 17s would have
>been beautiful!

I like it!  I would prefer to have a 21 will for a 15 wit warrior, but not
everything works out for you all the time...

>Here's what I came up with:
>
>12 + 0 = 12
>10 + 0 = 10
>4  + 0 = 4
>10 + 5 = 15
>13 + 4 = 17
>8  + 1 = 9
>13 + 4 = 17

Not so fast!  by adding to speed, you get an init and a rip, according to
the charts I have.  YOu would do just as well by adding one point to wit.
You don't have to train it, and it might be fine, as-is.  About a year ago,
the Duelmaster in Talcama was a 16 wit, 16 will waste.  It could work...

>My dilema is the style. I haven't had too much success with 15 wit
warriors,
>least of all offensives. They just don't learn well enough to remain
>competitive in the long run. In fact, I vowed *never* to make any more 15
>wit offensives! So that leaves me with the defensive styles to choose from.
>So far, I'm leaning towards a TP although I do have a PS with *very*
similar
>stats who is doing very well. It's tempting to just clone her but, then
>again, she doesn't have a perfect rollup either. Maybe this one could be
>better as something else. Besides, I would rather try something different
>anyway.

Something different?  Why don't you try 12-10-4-16-17-8-17 Waste?  I'm sure
that Dennis would want to see how it would come out... You could train st
and con 1 each, use the Scimitar or Morning Star, do normal damage, and have
good endurance.  Hey!

If you made a TP, I would still go with the extra point on wit, even though
it doesn't get you anything.  That extra point will come in handy way down
the line!

I would also take a 12-10-4-16-17-8-17 Parry-Lunge _or_ Lunger.  Both would
do well.  Parry-lunge fights are more exciting down the line, but the
lungers get the better bonuses.

Wizard of Oz might tell you to make a slasher.  :-)
If so, I would still go with the same stats.

>A PL might also work well. I've never had my PLs live very long (they all
>die as initiates) so I hesitate to try that style again especially since
>this is one of the better rollups that I've recieved lately. Besides I
would
>end up running a PL or PS offensively anyway which means I won't have the
>longer fights to help in the learn department. Arrrgh! Decisions,
decisions...

My Pl's learn well even if the fight is 1-2 minutes.  They can learn poorly
on a long fight, too.   Don't base your decision on that.

>I know at least one person is going to suggest that I make the wit a
>16 (John? :) and train it once to 17. I'm not sure if I want to do that but
>I'm willing to hear the reasons why I should consider it. If it turns out
>that they outweigh the 5 skills or so that she will lose, then I'll
definitely
>give it some serious thought. I just hate losing skills! I lost 17 skills
>with a basher who is now in AD and it makes me *sick* to think how much
>better he would have been... :(

I wouldn't train wit to 17, but I would make it a 16, even though it doesn't
get you anything right now...

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DM: rollup
hlavaty@aerospace.aero.org (Grisel Gonzalez)
Fri, 05 Jun 1992 23:45:13 +0000