Re: Duelmasters Init. Roll-Up Help Sought

From: johnjohn@cco.caltech.edu (John White)

Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1992 18:27:42 +0000

In article <1992Jun10.172353.7001@jade.tufts.edu> gharris@jade.tufts.edu
(George W. Harris) writes:
>
>	I just yesterday got my initial set-up from RSI (took three weeks --
>reasonable), and was hoping to generate some views from the net.  I have a
>decent idea what to do for most of them, but am unsure about a few, and
would
>also appreciate it if anyone told me if I was doing something completely
>idiotic.  So, here they are.

Congratulations on joining the ever increasing number of players on the Net!
I hope you have as much fun as I do!  :-)

>	15-10-9-6-12-10-8
>
>	This guy's WT sucks, so I figure he's not much good for long term.
>He's got a great strength, but his SZ is medium, and his CN isn't great.  I
>was thinking either

1)  A good Con is important to warrior survival in Dungeons and Dragons.
@)  A lower Con is important to warrior success in Duelmasters!

All that Con gets you is "hit points" and a slight boost in endurance.  The
points that you're adding there could do better somewhere else.  As a
general rule, when I look at con, size, and speed, I like single digits.
The points are better used in wit, will, deftness, and even strength.  Those
are where your skills and wins are going to come from.  Keep in mind that
this game is only related to D&D on the surface!

Specifically on this rollup:  You're right, the low wit dooms him.  For fun,
I would probably go 15-10-9-9-17-11-13.  Probably a striker, with that high
speed.

>	17-11-9-9-17-10-11 ST, or
>
>	21-11-9-7-17-10-9 ST.

Unless you're really set on doing HUGE amounts of damage, a strength above
13 really isn't much use.  I only add to strength to get a good weapon
selection (see the Weapons charts which I post).  21 strength does get you
some skills, but the cost is making the other stats lamer than they were
before.  I guess that's all academic, though.  I probably wouldn't even run
this warrior in the arena, just challenge the Dark Arena on the first turn
he fights.

>I'm not sure if DF is very important for a
>striker, or if I should worry about the WT, but rather go for the 21 ST.

If you were talking about a legitamite striker, the stats to get high are
wit, will, deftness, speed, and strength.  In that order.  Deftness gets you
a lot of initiative skills, and some decise skills too.  These will benefit
you by allowing to to get in some attacks during the fight.  It might take
more hits to put a guy down, but that's better than only needing one hit,
and not ever getting a chance to attack.

>Anyway, my second guy looks like this:
>
>	9-10-16-5-13-13-4
>
>	Once again, a WTless warrior.  He's got great SZ, so I immediately
>thought Basher.  I don't know if SP helps a basher, but on the thought that
>it does, I was going to go

A hight size can benefit all offensive styles.  You get better damage, and
it seems to enhance your init.  Speed does help a basher, but 13 is PLENTY.
For ANY style.  Focus your points on the skill stats.  Of course I would DA
this guy right away as well!

>	14-10-16-5-17-17-5 BA
>
>	and train up his strength on the first fight.  If, on the other hand
>speed isn't too important I would go with either

Again, you don't really need higher than a 13 strength.

>	15-13-16-5-17-13-5 BA or
>
>	14-10-16-5-17-13-9 BA.

I like the second guy, but as a slasher.  Great damage, quick, and can use
some weapons too.  A basher might work, but both of them would only be
useful for 2-3 turns.

>	I'd be more inclined to boost ST, CN or SP than DF, though, since
his
>DF will never be better than mediocre.

Hmmm.  Normally, I say accentuate the strengths, but I mean the skill
strengths, of which your warrior has only one: the ability to ghet a 17
will.  Deftness is a goldmine of skills.

>My remaining three warriors all look like they have the most long-term
>potential, but they're also the one's I have the least idea what to do
with.
>Next, is
>
>	12-8-6-15-8-7-14.
>
>	My immediate thought was
>
>	13-9-6-17-13-9-17 PR.

Oh, yeah!  Or an Aimed Blow, but I like this design.  Again, don't add to
con unleass you have _nothing_ to add...

>	Well, maybe not immediate, but I came up with it eventually.  But I
>still have some questions about this guy.  Would he be better as
>
>	13-9-6-21-13-7-15, or
>
>	12-8-6-21-13-9-17,
>
>	or what?  I'm anxious to here your opinions.

I like the points in deftness, as a 17 deft will get you more skills than a
15.  Also, you can train the strength and con fairly quickly, while two deft
trains with a 13 will would be bad.

>	Finally, come the two with serious potential, on which I am
seriously
>confused.  There's
>
>	5-12-11-15-14-4-9,
>
>	which I considered turning into
>
>	9-15-11-17-17-4-11 SL,

12 con is just huge!  You don't need to add to it.  To best utilize these
skills, I would go 11-12-11-17-17-5-11 Wall of Steel.  He's great!  I have a
similar warrior who is currently 4-0-1 (wins-losses-kills).  This guy would
be teriffic!  Make him!

>	but I really don't know.  And, finally, there's
>
>	7-9-14-15-12-4-9,
>
>	which the best I could come up with was
>
>	13-9-14-17-17-4-11 BA.

Is god on your side?  11-9-14-17-17-5-11 Wall of Steel.  My god, you are
lucky!!  Sorry I'm being so general, but I don't have much time right now.
I'm sure someone else will tell you about the same.  Dennis?  What about
you?  Garth?

>	So, what do people think?  I'm open to any and all comments and sug-
>gestions, either posted or emailed, especially on those last two.  Let me
hear
>from you.

You got a good team here.  DA'ing the first two will end up getting you a
better team.  I think you need some experience with what stats have what
effects, but other than that, you are well on your way to Primus!

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References

Duelmasters Init. Roll-Up Help Sought
gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris)
Wed, 10 Jun 1992 17:23:53 +0000

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Duelmasters Init. Roll-Up Help Sought
gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris)
Wed, 10 Jun 1992 17:23:53 +0000