Re: Olympia - Free Market Economy

From: srt@aero.org (Scott "TCB" Turner)

Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1992 04:31:14 +0000

(John Morrow) writes:
>You miss the main difference as I see it.  When I kill a newbie, no
>one gets back a turn report saying THEY are dead and have to make up a
>new character -- that anything they did up to that point is now null
>and void and they must start over.

Sure.  But no one has been saying, "Dr. Pain, you should stop this
because you're wrecking the game for the players."  And they won't,
because everyone realizes that to some extent this is a competitive,
dangerous environment.  Possible death comes along with it.

What everyone *has* been saying is "Dr. Pain, you should stop this
because attacking other units is wrong."  That's the big claim the
Drassans make for wanting to revenge me, for instance.  They want to
bring "civilization" to the Dark Nation.  And that's Oleg's
justification for the "interesting players list".  But these same
people different attitude towards people like yourself, who are doing
the same thing to independents.  (So you are attacking to capture not
kill, big deal.)  What this says to me is that it isn't a moral issue
at all.  It's just that the complainers don't want to get killed.
They don't complain about you because you're not threatening their
positions.

That's a fine attitude - I don't want my faction to die, either - but
come out and say so.  Don't carry on about how using combat is
anti-social, etc.  And don't try to get the rules to the game changed
on that basis.

>Perhaps you should not moan and groan when people, who do not want to
>be "next" rise up against you.

When have you ever seen me moan and groan about people opposing me?
Far from it.  I've been taunting the Drassans from day one to stop
talking and start walking.  It's not my fault they're all cowards. :-)

What I do moan and groan about is people who want to change the rules
of the game to protect themselves.  I'll never complain about someone
who does something clever or hurts me in the context of the game.  But
to go outside the game to get the rules changed rather than to play
within the rules is childish.

We all suggest rule changes or additions that we think will improve
the game.  But there are a number of people who are constantly
proposing rule changes that are pretty obviously intended to simply
remove someone else's advantages, whether they're combat-related, or
economic-related.  I'll continue to moan and groan when that
happens.

>If Dr.  Pain were a little more diplomatic and a little less
>bloodthirsty throughout, he might have had a lot more support and
>certainly less enemies but, alas, that is not the case...

Ha!  Diplomacy has no place in a religious crusade!

-- Scott T.

References

Re: Olympia - Free Market Economy
srt@aero.org (Scott "TCB" Turner)
Mon, 22 Jun 1992 18:08:32 +0000
Re: Olympia - Free Market Economy
morrow@romulus.rutgers.edu (John Morrow)
Tue, 23 Jun 1992 00:41:20 +0000

Referenced By

Re: Olympia - Free Market Economy
srt@aero.org (Scott "TCB" Turner)
Mon, 22 Jun 1992 18:08:32 +0000
Re: Olympia - Free Market Economy
morrow@romulus.rutgers.edu (John Morrow)
Tue, 23 Jun 1992 00:41:20 +0000