Re: Olympia: declared attitudes

From: skrenta@cbnewsg.att.com (Rich Skrenta)

Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1992 08:45:57 +0000

srt@aero.org (Scott "TCB" Turner) writes:
> Why not just prevent anyone from giving anyone more than they can
> carry?  Sure, you can probably think up some odd cases where you might
> want to do that (in particular since castles and so on can no longer
> hold inventory (*), making something like a "supply depot" unit a
> possibility) but it seems to me like the main use of overloading
> someone is to abuse the rule as a sneak attack.  So why not eliminate
> it?

Well, if you can think of one case where you'd want to do this, I can't
just disallow it.  Construction tasks are one.  Castle builders can
sit at the end of a stone convoy.  Shipbuilders might need quite a bit
of lumber to make a ship.  They can't carry it all at once, but they
can guard the pile.

"More than you can carry" is a rather complex question itself.  By
river?  By sea?  On horses?  What about with the oxen arriving on day 5?

What if unit A had 500 capacity.  You give it 500 pounds of stone.
But I had planned on having A buy 500 pounds of rugs later in the turn.
You've still wrecked my turn, even though you didn't blow my capacity
at the time.

> (*) Speaking of which, why?  It seems to me it would be better to go
> in the opposite direction, i.e., giving all entities at least potential
> inventories.  Leaving things in castles or in a region seems both useful
> and realistic.

So I thought, and so things were.  But the feature was never used, and
there was cruft to support it, so I disallowed it.  It's not a big deal,
so it can easily return.

More musings:  what if you could submit orders for things like ships
with the rest of your orders?

entity 2000	# Wrath of Zeus, clipper
	   wait stack 501
	   move n
	   move n
	   give 201 3 10

If towers, ships and locations could be ordered to move goods around,
it might increase the usefulness of their stores.  But it's a bit
simpler to know that if you attack a ship and get rid of the characters,
the ship will be empty, and not full of stone or other junk.

Would the ship function if none of your men were on it?  Technically, it
wouldn't be yours anymore.  What if you men got back on?  Ugh.

--
Rich Skrenta

References

Re: Olympia: declared attitudes
srt@aero.org (Scott "TCB" Turner)
Tue, 14 Jul 1992 05:28:08 +0000

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Re: Olympia: declared attitudes
srt@aero.org (Scott "TCB" Turner)
Tue, 14 Jul 1992 05:28:08 +0000