Re: Duelmasters: Need help with first roll-ups.

From: johnjohn@cco.caltech.edu (John White)

Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1992 04:46:32 +0000

In article <009621FB.42E7E500@abby.chem.ucla.edu> ben@abby.chem.ucla.edu
writes:
>In article <1992Oct13.220117.3429@rdii.com>, jas@rdii.com (Jim Smith)
writes:
>>> Your Rookies Tournament Champion:  18-21-5-7-20-6-7.
>>
>>OOP, ACK! Now I KNOW I ruined a potentially great TP.  Somebody pass the
>>Kleenex. ;-(
>
>This warrior would have a good chance of TCing, but think of it this way:
>
>No one enjoys reading 'SCUM' fights.  There is a significant group (myself
>included) who feel that running 'Scum' warriors is 'dishonorable'  Not that
ALL
>total parries are scum, just those that are designed specifically to never
>attack, to wear 4 LS and out last their opponents.  Once you lose a few
fights
>to these guys with your decent fighters, you'll understand this.  It's
always
>bad to lose, but it's better to be beaten by skill-at-arms, rather than
>exhastion.

blahblahblahblahblah!!!!!
Don't listen to him!
Look, I don't know HOW long it's been since someone one the rookies tourney
WITHOUT a scum, but it _hasen't_ been since _I_ started playing.  In
addition, people INSIST on injecting their own weird ideas of "honor" into a
game that is designed WITHOUT it.  Why is it honorable to randomly match up
with someone's 0 fight warrior with a power lunger and kill him, but not
honorable to challenge with a scum (which results in a long fight and lots
of skills, righ Ben?;-D) and have that warrior LIVE?

>Other 'honor' points: Don't Challenge someone ranked below you,
>just to get a Win.

Oh, come on!  I do that all the time!  Ok, a lot of people in the arena
think I'm scum-of-the-earth, but not 'cause of that.  Just remember, there
are avoid spaces for a reason, and you are able to challenge them for a
reason.

>Somethimes it's considered impolite to specifically attempt
>to kill a particular warrior of someone else.  In general Duelmasters is
like
>life, do unto others as you would have them do to you.

Duelmasters is NOTHING like real life!  The point is to roleplay and have
FUN!  I say things to people in the personal ads, that I'd never say to
someone in real life.  I pick fights.  I piss people off.  And you know
what?  It's OK!  Because NONE of it is REAL!
Sorry Ben, but I just don't agree with you on this point. :-)

>>I ended up going with an 11-4-9-15-17-15-13 SL.  I figured I could
>>train up the con a couple and he would do OK.  I have a sneaking
>>suspicion the low con will get him dead very quickly however.  Ah,
>>well, at least lessons learned the hard way are seldom forgotten. ;-)
>
>
>Good choice, IMHO, but don't train the CN, It probably won't keep you from
>losing fights (a 17 WL gives you 2-3 trains/stat max.), because a 6 aint
much
>better than a 4.  It probable won't even keep you alive.  Count yourself
lucky
>that you got such a low CN roll-up for an offensive style.  Many managers
feel
>that CN is a complete waste of points for an offensive.

Ummmm, don't quite agree with this point either (sorry Ben!).  I can't tell
exactly what your damage rating is from the numbers, but it looks to be
right on the edge of "very frail" and "cannot take a lot."  If you don't
want the guy to die, then it can be worth it to take the time to train the
con up (even if it takes 3 trains).

>>I assume you mean a 9-10-12-9-17-10-17?  Again, it would have made a
>>good short term character, but I ended up going for the long term
>>again with a 9-10-12-15-17-10-11 LU.
>
>15 WT is probably too low for a long term OFFENSIVE warrior.  15 WT, or
even 13
>can be used for a DEFENSIVE warrior.  The reason is simple:  the longer
your
>fights, the more skills you learn, so  the less WT you need to get the same
>avg. # of skills/fight.

Ummmm.... No I don't agree!  I have a 15 wit lunger who's doing just fine.
Of course, your comment is based on the idea that long fights net more
skills, which I don't agree with, so we're kind of butting horns here...

>>I don't have so much as a hint about how to fight these guys.  Any
>>suggestions will be most appreciated.
>
>Uhhh... I don't have time now, ask about a specific warrior, andy someone
will
>probably answer.  In general, for offensives, the 1st minute is by far the
most
>important.  Lungers should run 10-10-KD(6-10)-L, Strikers, Decise, Slashers
>10-10, or 10-8, either Decise or no tactic.  DON'T USE THE SLASH TACTIC IN
THE
>1ST MINUTE, UNLESS YOU'RE CHALLENGEING A WS OR A TP.  (reason: It's too
>slow...)

Of course, I think the lunge tactic slows you down as well....

Nothing personal Ben.  I mean, its only Duelmasters, right?!

References

Re: Duelmasters: Need help with first roll-ups.
ben@abby.chem.ucla.edu
Thu, 15 Oct 1992 14:15:54 +0000

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Re: Duelmasters: Need help with first roll-ups.
ben@abby.chem.ucla.edu
Thu, 15 Oct 1992 14:15:54 +0000