Re: call for duelmasters help

From: johnjohn@cco.caltech.edu (John White)

Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1992 05:02:28 +0000

In article <1992Oct15.184551.22330@jade.tufts.edu> gharris@jade.tufts.edu
(George W. Harris) writes:
>In article <1992Oct15.155009.25461@blaze.cs.jhu.edu>
eisen@fermat.cs.jhu.edu (Hal Joshua Eisen) writes:

>>8-9-10-10-10-12-11 becomes
>>8-9-10-15-15-15-12 PS
>>This guy seems pretty average, with a slight bent for speed and
decisiveness,
>>so I thought to give him a good WT so he might learn some stuff over time.
>
>He does have a good speed, but he doesn't need any more.  Adding points
>to an already decent speed is usually a bad idea.  I'd put them in DF
instead;
>everybody need DF.  I'd go 8-9-10-15-15-12-15.  I don't know what style I'd
>make him, though.  Others will respond.

I agree completely with George on this point.  12 is already a great speed,
you don't need any more on this guy.  On the other hand, 11 is only an
average deft.  BTW, your 12 deft doesn't get you anything.  The odds are
especially key with deftness.  Evens still get you skills in speed.

>>5-17-11-9-9-10-9 becomes
>>5-17-11-9-15-15-12 LU
>>Since this guy had such a high CN, I thought he'd do well with an active
>>style.  Is this true?  Is a 5 ST too low for a warrior who fights with the
>>LU style?
>
>I'd say he's too weak to make a really good lunger.

*bzzzt*  Wrong.  5 st lungers are pretty weak, and have problems, but 5 st
doesn't _eliminate_ consideration of the lunging style.
In this case, however, I'm still leaning towards PS, despite the 11 size.

>That is a really
>high CN, though, so you should probably go for a style that really needs
it.
>I'm not sure, but he might make a decent TP, say 5-17-11-15-15-10-11.

I prefer my TP's to have more ST and WILL, less size and speed.  Like,
9-17-7-17-17-5-11.

>Again,
>you don't need to add so much to SP; getting it up to 13 should be plenty
>for just about any style.

_10_ is just about enough for any style, besides David's 21 speed slashers,
which he is the expert on.  You can't afford to spend points on speed with
this guy anyway...

>>6-7-15-8-13-12-9 becomes
>>12-13-15-8-15-12-9 BA
>>This is my only guy with a relatively big SZ, so I thought I'd try a style
>>which could dish out some big damage.  Unfortunately, his ST was low, so I
>>figured I'd sink 6 points into it - is this a good plan?
>
>]I think he could be a good basher, but you don't need to put all those
>points into CN.  A better arrangement might be 12-7-15-8-17-12-13 BA.  You
>will get better performance putting those points into WL and DF than CN.
>I'd train his ST the first fight.

If you're set on making a basher, I would agree with all of that.

>>11-12-5-11-12-5-14 becomes
>>11-13-5-15-15-11-14 TP

I already reccomended the 11-12-5-17-17-5-17 setup.

>I think 15-15 on WT-WL is better than 17-13, but you don't need to
>put points into SP if you're going to scum the guy (stand there and wait
>for the other guy to wear out).  I'd leave the SP where it is and up DF
>some more.
>Say 11-12-5-17-17-5-17 TP.

I agree with all of that, whether or not you want to make a TP (I wouldn't).

>Actually, this might be better with some other
>style, like maybe a Wall of Steel.

_Or_Parry-Lunger_.  Or lunger.
Maybe I would change my reccomendation to parry-lunger.

>>As I was doing these guys, I noticed it was much easier (no kidding!) to
>>get 15's than 17's, and in some cases I decided to go for the 15's instead
>>of the 17's so that I could use the 2 points elsewhere.  are 17's so
>>good that they should always be pursued, even to the detriment of other
>>stats?  also, they ask me if I want to be in a particular arena.  is
>>there a good arena for newbies?  Thanks for any help!
>
>It depends on the stat...with WL or WT or DF, the difference between a 15
and
>17 is significant, but much less so for the others.

Agreed!

>Also, it's usually a
>waste (I think) to put just a point or two into CN or SP, but hey, what do
>I know?  I've just been playing for 4 months.

Well, I'm not the most experienced manager on the net, but I've been playing
for almost two years, and I heartily agree with that.  Your points are most
often better used somewhere else.

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Re: call for duelmasters help
gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris)
Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:45:51 +0000