Re: call for duelmasters help

From: ben@abby.chem.ucla.edu

Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 16:31:09 +0000

In article <1992Oct15.155009.25461@blaze.cs.jhu.edu>, eisen@fermat.cs.jhu.edu (Hal Joshua Eisen) writes:
>Hello.  I'm new to duelmasters, and I just got my first set of roll-ups.
>I've seen a few people ask the net for opinions, so I thought I'd do the same.
>I hereby invite all duelmasters players here to comment on what I'm thinking
>about doing with the following raw material:

Welcome to Duelmasters!
You have some good role-ups here, but a couple of serious misconceptions (not
you fault, just rookie moves...)

1) In general, the most important stats for any warrrior are WT,WL and DF.  The
least important are SP and CN. (This is not always true, but in general you
want to add points to stats in that order, with ST in the middle.)  The
exceptions are that Defensive styles often need some CN, and Offensives need a
little SP.  WL is more important than CN in determining endurance; CN is most
important for Damage-soaking ability.  WT and WL are especially important
because they determine your 'learning curves'.  DF gives you lots of nice
skills.

>
>8-9-10-10-10-12-11 becomes
>8-9-10-15-15-15-12 PS

Pretty good, but try 8-9-10-15-15-12-15, instead.  This would make a decent PL
or PS, IMO.

>5-17-11-9-9-10-9 becomes
>5-17-11-9-15-15-12 LU
>Since this guy had such a high CN, I thought he'd do well with an active
>style.  Is this true?  Is a 5 ST too low for a warrior who fights with the
>LU style?

Ugh. your reasoning is sound, but absolutly false in DM.  (Well, 5 ST is too
low for a LU) A high CN, low ST warrior makes a pretty good TP.

try: 7-17-11-13-15-10-11.  A pretty low WT for a long term warrior, but his
fights should be long enough to make up for it in skill learning.

>6-7-15-8-13-12-9 becomes
>12-13-15-8-15-12-9 BA
>This is my only guy with a relatively big SZ, so I thought I'd try a style
>which could dish out some big damage.  Unfortunately, his ST was low, so I
>figured I'd sink 6 points into it - is this a good plan?

This isn't a very good role up, but if you want a basher

11-7-15-13-15-12-11.  With only a 13 WT, this guy probably won't be very
long-term; i.e., he won't learn many skills.  You could sink the 5 from WT into
SP and WL, and make what is called a speed basher.  (Run Decise in minute one
with a WH and no armor.)  IT would also make a decent 'dixie' (short-term) ST
or LU.
>
>11-12-5-11-12-5-14 becomes
>11-13-5-15-15-11-14 TP
>I figured since this guy was so small, he would never hurt anything he hit,
>so I thought to try a long-term scum strategy with him.  The short intro
>that comes with the roll-ups implied that SP is important in parrying, which
>is why I put 6 points there.  I could have gone for a 17 WT and a 13 WL
>instead - would this be better?

That intro is absolutely false.  DF and high WL help in parring.  This is a
great role-up, I wouldn't waste it on a scum.  With 11 ST, a 5 SZ is O.K.,
unless his sheet comes back with the comment "Does little Damage".  If this
happens, train ST immediatly.
I would try: 11-12-5-17-17-5-17; this would make a great PR, PL, or WS.
I suggest a wall of steel, they are easier to run, and win alot.
Run him 5-2-5-x-P in minutes 1 and 2, and 8-3-8 in minute 3 (slow down after) A
friends roll-up like this came back with an Expert in attack. (0 fights...)
A 5 SP may look awful, but trust me the points are well spent else where.

>8-5-9-13-8-17-10 becomes
>8-5-9-17-13-17-15 AB
>I had a lot of trouble deciding what to do with this guy.  He's got WT and
>SP, but which style needs those the most?  With a CN of 5 he can't take an
>active style, as he'd tire too quickly, I assume.  I thought that with
>some brains and some quickness, he'd be able to "surgically strike" to
>good effect.  Has anyone tried this with any success?

SP is utterly useless for a AB.  DF and WT, followed by WL are most important.
given that you're stuck with a 17 SP, make a Striker.
10-5-9-17-13-17-13  You'd really like that 15 DF, but you NEED a 10 ST for a
Striker.
>
>As I was doing these guys, I noticed it was much easier (no kidding!) to
>get 15's than 17's, and in some cases I decided to go for the 15's instead
>of the 17's so that I could use the 2 points elsewhere.  are 17's so
>good that they should always be pursued, even to the detriment of other
>stats?  also, they ask me if I want to be in a particular arena.  is
>there a good arena for newbies?  Thanks for any help.

17's in WT, WL and DF are great, sacrifice other stats (esp. CN and SP) to get
them.  ST is usefull at moderate levels,9-13.  Most styles ought to have at
least 15 WT, 15 WL, 11 DF (11 DF is a BIG cutoff)

YOur welcome,
Ben Hitz, Arenas 53(Khaluhms), 63(Aman-Tei) and 18 (Talcalma)

References

call for duelmasters help
eisen@fermat.cs.jhu.edu (Hal Joshua Eisen)
Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:50:09 +0000

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call for duelmasters help
eisen@fermat.cs.jhu.edu (Hal Joshua Eisen)
Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:50:09 +0000