Re: DM: What is a TV challenge?

From: khearn@pyrps5.eng.pyramid.com (Keith Hearn)

Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1993 23:49:58 +0000

In article <C3s9J5.1yu@watcgl.uwaterloo.ca> cjwein@watcgl.uwaterloo.ca (Chris J. Wein) writes:
>In article <009695DE.65ACCC20@abby.chem.ucla.edu> ben@abby.chem.ucla.edu writes:
>>When you get a TV "Tournament Victor", by going 8-2 or better, you get
>>to make a challenge at increased priority.   Basically,  the computer checks
>>all Bloodfueds, then all TV challenges, then all regular 1st challenges, then all 2nd challenges.
>>
>>At least I think that's how it works...
>
>Doesn't the program check your first challenge and then your second challenge
>(if necessary) before moving on to the next warrior?
>
>Chris
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According to the _Red_Book_of_Alastari_, 'Challenging the same warrior
  twice (called "double challenging") increases the likelihood of
  succeeding in the challenge'.

If this is true, then neither of the two above algorithms seem likely.
  My guess is that a warrior is picked by the computer (how this pick
  is made could be by seniority, or random, or some other way, I
  haven't given it much thought), then everyone who is challenging is
  put into a hat (well, ok, so the computer doesn't actually use a
  hat, you get the idea, tho), with double challenges put in twice,
  then a name is drawn from the hat and that person's challenge succeeds.
  This would give double challenges an increased chance. This would
  also mean that the order that you put your challenges would be
  meaningless.

I don't know that this system is actually used, but it would work to
  give double challenges a higher priority.

Looking at the fight listing from my lastest newsletter, I'd say that
  first DA fights are done, to get them out of the pool, then
  bloodfeuds are checked, and if a fighter is being bloodfeuded by
  more than one other fighter, the 'hat' system above could be used,
  then Title Challenges, then other challenges, then anyone whos is
  left over is matched with someone they can legelly fight. Anyone
  left over once the legal matches are made is put up against a
  commission standin, like a CONVICTED FELON. I've never seen a TV
  challenge in the listings from my arena, so I don't know if they
  would come before bloodfeuds, Title challenges or just before
  regular challenges.

Problems I see with the 'hat' system: I don't know how avoids would be
  handled in it, since I haven't done much with avoids. Does using an
  avoid guarantee that you won't fight a warrior from that stable, or
  is it not a guarantee? If avoids are a sure guarantee against
  challenges, then fighters from stables that you are avoiding would
  not have their names put in the hat to challenge you.

Another problem is that the duelmaster would never be able to
  challenge anyone if anyone eligable to fight him/her was challenging
  (avoids  and bloodfeuds notwithstanding), since the duelmaster is
  the first person who is checked for challenges. Anyone who's had a
  Deulmaster care to comment on how often you've managed to
  successfully (non-bloodfeud) challenge while holding down the DM
  spot and not avoiding those who were likely to be challenging you?

Anyone with more experience than I see any problems with this system?

Arlon

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References

Re: DM: What is a TV challenge?
cjwein@watcgl.uwaterloo.ca (Chris J. Wein)
Fri, 12 Mar 1993 15:54:37 +0000
DM: What is a TV challenge?
dresnick@athena.mit.edu (David I Resnick)
Tue, 09 Mar 1993 01:58:24 +0000
Re: DM: What is a TV challenge?
ben@abby.chem.ucla.edu
Fri, 12 Mar 1993 02:41:32 +0000

Referenced By

Re: DM: What is a TV challenge?
cjwein@watcgl.uwaterloo.ca (Chris J. Wein)
Fri, 12 Mar 1993 15:54:37 +0000
DM: What is a TV challenge?
dresnick@athena.mit.edu (David I Resnick)
Tue, 09 Mar 1993 01:58:24 +0000
Re: DM: What is a TV challenge?
ben@abby.chem.ucla.edu
Fri, 12 Mar 1993 02:41:32 +0000