Re: Leg: startup ?

From: dresnick@athena.mit.edu (David I Resnick)

Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1993 22:31:51 +0000

In article <1rjnr1$ieh@calvin.usc.edu> robertw@calvin.usc.edu (Robert Watkins) writes:

dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:

>Something else to note is that while a beginning
   >influencer (especially with a Blessing) can influence low-level NPCs
   >fairly easily, the more important ones require prestige which you can
   >only get from conquests or from allies.

>   Yep, that is the general premise behind my NIC 4 setup.  I plan on
>   clubbing lairs and small villages to get my prestige up before
>   delving into the land of influencing.  The other consideration
>   was that it is a hell of a lot easier to practice influence up
>   to 13 than it is to practice personal combat up to 25.

>   So, 24 points went to PC, 40 to a skill between 1-10, and 16 into
>   characteristics.  My sidekick has ranger and knight.  I'll learn
>   both of them with my main to maximize survivability in the early
>   game.  When I switch over to influencing, I'll probably drop
>   knight and pick up stealth.

No priest?  They can come in handy - maybe a sidekick priest would be
nice to have. You might take serious damage taking these lairs.  Well,
you could always start with empathic self cure...  I guess that you
plan on teaching your B your arcane and battle/duel spells?

Whatever.  16 into characteristics can be nifty if you decide you
can afford it.  You might try to reach at least ST20 (troll hammer)
and DX12 (Elf bow).  Are their any other useful cutoffs for major
weapons classes out there???

>   So I practice influence for around 10 turns while beating on
>   lairs and villages.  Then I switch over to influencing.  I
>   don't know how it is going to work out, but that is my plan...

Dream on dude!  Unless your startup area is MUCH easier than mine
(NIC2), you won't find many lairs/villages that you can "beat up" on.
The only lair on my starting map was a "child of chaos mature dragon".  The
weakest village had 40 soldiers, about half of them troll barbarians.
The things that got me going as an adventurer party in NIC (after I
had trained my battle spell around) were

1) Info from an overlord position with whom I joined the game.  If you
   don't have allies it will be harder for you to start.  I suggest
   that if at all possible you join the game with a friend who will
   run a position with starting pop.  They can use some of their
   mounted troops as explorers and can rapidly expand the map.  If
   you start near (not too near - you'd like non-overlapping starting
   maps if possible) your friend, he can give you valuable info.
   Be warned that some small villages have DISGUSTINGLY strong
   defensive forces.  Saurians on warland dragons?  No thanks!!!!
   Scry it before you hit it should be your rule.

2) Special events.  I don't know how common this is in NIC, but I have
   had two highly useful events in the first 8 turns, giving me
   a total of 19 soldiers.  Getting these really made life a lot
   easier!  I'm now up the the point where I can hit something every
   turn, which is really nice.  I've also gotten 300 crowns, an
   invisibility potion, and a dex increase for a character.

Rob

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       David Resnick                           dresnick@athena.mit.edu

References

Re: Leg: startup ?
robertw@calvin.usc.edu (Robert Watkins)
Tue, 27 Apr 1993 16:43:13 +0000
Leg: startup ?
jghiloni@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (james craig ghiloni)
Mon, 26 Apr 1993 16:42:20 +0000
Re: Leg: startup ?
dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Mon, 26 Apr 1993 18:50:58 +0000

Referenced By

Re: Leg: startup ?
robertw@calvin.usc.edu (Robert Watkins)
Tue, 27 Apr 1993 16:43:13 +0000
Leg: startup ?
jghiloni@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (james craig ghiloni)
Mon, 26 Apr 1993 16:42:20 +0000
Re: Leg: startup ?
dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Mon, 26 Apr 1993 18:50:58 +0000