Re: DM - Help with AD

From: leeme@cnsvax.uwec.edu

Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 09:49:46 +0000

In article <CJwvIq.Hw0@freenet.carleton.ca>, aj863@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Garth Werner) writes:
>>So here's a question:
>>My understanding is that the dodge, rather than the parry, is the most
>>effective means of defense in AD.  That is, the parry tends to be
>>slipped by the critical attack, but a critical attack can't hit the
>>normal dodge.
>>
> 	I asked this question when I first got onto the net, and I don't
> think a single person had an opinion on the matter.  For the record, I

That's cause I wasn't here, Garth. ;)  If my thought processes can stretch
back two years I'll try to answer John's question.  Yes, I always believed a
crit dodge was the best defense.  You can't make a crit parry on a crit
attack for some unknown, mysterious, Ed Schoonoverin reason.  I think the
table looked like...

crit attack     can crit dodge or normal parry(which can be slipped or your
                parrying weapon can be shattered).  cannot normal dodge it
normal attack   can crit dodge, normal dodge, normal parry, or crit parry
                it(attacker's weapon then has chance of being shattered)

Looking back at 2 successive fights of Master Lee (PL) vs his almost identical
twin E.Hemingway (TP) on some Primus fights, the breakdown:
Master Lee: 33 crit attacks, 19 crit dodges
E.Hemingway: 13 crit attacks, 12 crit dodges, 6 normal attacks, 9 normal
             parries(only 1 slipped for god's sakes!), 12 times outright got hit

Further analysis...E.Hemingway sucks as a TP! Everyone knows ATT % for TPs
isn't the greatest and it shows as M.Lee crit dodged everything E.Hem threw,
also E.Hem made 6 normal attacks.  Sometimes it's nothing but your character
when they decide to make a normal attack instead of a crit though.  I can't
remember which f-t-f it was at, but the manager of Donny II was upset that
he was only making 80% or so crit attacks.

And as a bonus! Christine(64-32-2 with countless tourney fights) challenges
poor, little Master Lee(47-11-1, maybe a couple of tourney fights :) ) the
turn right before the 2 E.Hem fights! See next post! (You can dig up the
CHEAP Christine challenge of Mr. Lee, Garth! :^)  )

> believe in blowing off the parry if and only if it's not really suited to
> the style.  A GM in parry will make an AM in attack fairly normal for most
> of the fight anyway.   Just another thought

I agree.  If your lunger has to parry, you're not a real lunger (at least
that's what we used to say in the old days).  If you get up to 112-115 skills
or so and the last few are just parry skills, I'd forget em and start
cranking stats.

Mike Lee
retired DM manager

> Garth
>
> aj863@freenet.carleton.ca	or  crip@micor.ocunix.on.ca

References

Re: DM - Help with AD
aj863@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Garth Werner)
Wed, 19 Jan 1994 22:21:46 +0000
Re: DM - Help with AD
aj863@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Garth Werner)
Thu, 20 Jan 1994 04:37:37 +0000
Re: DM - Help with AD
johnjohn@cco.caltech.edu (John Carlos White)
Thu, 20 Jan 1994 00:46:16 +0000
DM - Help with AD
johnjohn@cco.caltech.edu (John Carlos White)
Wed, 19 Jan 1994 19:53:24 +0000

Referenced By

Re: DM - Help with AD
aj863@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Garth Werner)
Wed, 19 Jan 1994 22:21:46 +0000
Re: DM - Help with AD
aj863@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Garth Werner)
Thu, 20 Jan 1994 04:37:37 +0000
Re: DM - Help with AD
johnjohn@cco.caltech.edu (John Carlos White)
Thu, 20 Jan 1994 00:46:16 +0000
DM - Help with AD
johnjohn@cco.caltech.edu (John Carlos White)
Wed, 19 Jan 1994 19:53:24 +0000