Re: DM - Rollup Question

From: DTonizzo@hr.house.gov (David Tonizzo)

Date: Tue, 08 Feb 1994 17:47:52 +0000

> In article <CKvqKC.Eyr@ucdavis.edu>, ez007195@dale.ucdavis.edu (Yeon Choi) wrote:

> >In article <DTonizzo-070294093615@137.18.32.9> DTonizzo@hr.house.gov (David Tonizzo) writes:
> >> In article <CKsKFF.KEB@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> cjwein@watcgl.uwaterloo.ca (Chris J. Wein) writes:

> >> I'd go 14-6-6-17-17-17-7 SL.  Train ST to 15 only after you've tried out
> >> all the slashing weapons...

I tend to believe that a SL needs DFT a lot more than a BA. I'd never
design a <11 DFT SL. Have tried but they all stunk.

> >I don't know, I've had some moderate SPD, low DFT bashers who positively
> >tear up the ranks and tournies. True their attack suffers, but with any
> >luck they'll get an expert in <5-6 skills...etc...
>
> I understand that David, the Bloodgames winner run by Ghost of Eldrid
> (I believe) looked something like 21-3-4-21-21-9-5 BA.  He used to be
> generally considered to be the best Basher in the game.

Yep that's what I heard also. Pile Driver (Bladerunner's BloodGames Basher)
looked like: 21-3-3-21-21-5-10. Least that's what I've heard. A bit more
DFT, but not that different. No speed is the suprise here.

> Obviously, this goes against my personal experience. I'm wondering what
> your high SP low DF bashers look like, if they're so good.  21 WT 21 WL
> seems to be a balm for many roll-up illnesses.  Is this the case?  Or
> have you noticed that ST 17 WT 17 WL 17 seems to be the answer to a
> low DF?

Well, (Don't have the guys with me so all this is from memory) the first
case 13SPD(which isn't really that high)/5DFT complete stats are:
17-13-4-17-15-13-5. She got lucky with great damage. Has AdEX att after 7
skills, AdEX dec after 8 skills, and Ex init after 4 skills. Another is:
15-4-15-15-15-15-5. Got tremendous damage. Don't know about all the 15's
but the low DFT negated most of the styles I'd choose. Just fought a scum
in Scale and laid him out with one crit/xtra dam hit to the chest. Has AdEx
att. after 8 skills. Not learning great. A third case is:
14-6-6-21-17-13-7. (This is the second one mentioned in previous post.
Goofed. He has a 7DFT not 5. Checked it out last night. He just crushed one
of Boss Rat's Downchallenging size 3 WoS) Has AdEX decise after 8 skills,
EX att after 4 skills, and EX rip (strange a basher getting Rip) after 7
skills. This last roll-up is similar to the proposed roll-up. Another is
17-10-7-17-15-13-5. Has Ex+3 Att after 6 skills. Anyway, I've found that a
good STR/WT/WL combo with a marginal SPD seems to counter the lack of DFT.
At least it's worked nicely for me. A ST17, WT17, WL17 should, in my eyes,
most definitely help ease the negative factors associated with low DFT,
though I can't say for certain as I've never had a 17/17/17 BA come my way.
Close but not quite.

Black Peter

P.S. - A 21WT/21WL...I wish one would come my way. Never in my four years
have I seen one.

> Trump
> ez007195@dale.ucdavis.edu

References

Re: DM - Rollup Question
cjwein@watcgl.uwaterloo.ca (Chris J. Wein)
Sun, 06 Feb 1994 07:21:14 +0000
Re: DM - Rollup Question
ez007195@dale.ucdavis.edu (Yeon Choi)
Tue, 08 Feb 1994 00:26:35 +0000