RESULT: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.{fantasy,info} fail 96:59, 92:63

From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)

Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 20:47:26 +0000

RESULT
   rec.sport.pro-wrestling.{fantasy,info} results - 161 valid votes

Yes   No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------
  96   59 :   No    No :    No : rec.sport.pro-wrestling.fantasy
  92   63 :   No    No :    No : rec.sport.pro-wrestling.info

A group needs to have 100 more YES votes than NO votes, and twice as
many YES votes as NO votes to pass.  The groups fail.

Newsgroups line:
rec.sport.pro-wrestling.fantasy Fantasy & E-wrestling posts and discussion.
rec.sport.pro-wrestling.info    Information-only wrestling group (moderated).

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact rdippold@qualcomm.com.  For questions about the
proposed group contact Keith Scott Alan <keith@amisk.cs.ualberta.ca>

CHARTERS (Keith)

rec.sport.pro-wrestling.fantasy

Rec.sport.pro-wrestling.fantasy will be for the discussion of fantasy pro
wrestling leagues, and the posting of announcements, cards, rules, etc, of
new and/or existing leagues.  It is for use by e-wrestling leagues and also
for use by groups currently posting to rec.sport.pro-wrestling proper, namely
the RSPCW.  It will be unmoderated.  As well, one convention currently in
trial stages on rspw proper should be used in subject headers:  namely
placing the federation in question in square brackets before the actual
subject (eg [CWF], [UeWF], [RSPCW], etc.)  While this is not a required
part of the newsgroup, it makes life easier on those reading it.  The
group will be used to post results of e-wrestling cards, upcoming cards,
interviews from wrestlers, rankings, or whatever else is part of the
periodic mailing package of the e-federation.

I feel the group is necessary because not only are there many PBeM
wrestling leagues out there, but the regular posters on rec.games.pbm
feel that they have no place in that newsgroup.  As well, regular posters to
rec.sport.pro-wrestling feel that the RSPCW has no place in that
newsgroup.  With the new group, followers of fantasy wrestling will be
free to discuss the various leagues, as well as announce new ones, plus post
themselves seem to justify a newsgroup, and the recent debate over the RSPWF
and the RSPCW, IMO, make it a necessity.

rec.sport.pro-wrestling.info

This is a moderated newsgroup.  It is solely for the purpose of
posting information about the world of professional wrestling.  This
includes the r.s.p.w FAQ, the wrestling relations list, the "Welcome
to rec.sport.pro-wrestling" file, Herb Kunze's Tidbits, Oliver
Postlethwaite's Hotline report, Chris Zimmerman's RAW reports, the
weekly summaries of WWF syndicated programs, the summaries of WCW
programming on TBS, substantiated gossip (eg from the Observer
newsletter), summaries (with NO match ratings) of PPV programming,
shows, plus whatever other wrestling programming people may be
interested in, news items, and of course a periodic posting >From the
moderator.

The group is NOT a forum for discussion of wrestling, a place to rate
matches on a given card, a place to post trivia, a place to ask
questions, a place to answer questions, a place to state an opinion of
a show, event, item, happening, or rumor.  It is not a place to
announce an upcoming show -- that is what rec.sport.pro-wrestling is
for.  In short, it is simply a newsgroup for the reader who wishes to
simply "read the news" in the world of professional wrestling and move
on.  All followups will be directed to rec.sport.pro-wrestling proper.

The group will be moderated by Pete Barlow (pmbarlow@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu).

I feel very strongly that this group should pass for several reasons.
The most important one is the fact that I want a group where I can get
the latest information without having to kill all the flamewars,
followups, questions, trivia with wrong answers, newbie posts,
arguments, speculation and general noise.  I just want to know what's
happening right away, then read the reaction from the net if need be
later on.  It will also save money for the numerous people who
download the messages every day, and no longer have to download 150
noise messages to read the 10 or 20 informative messages.  And also
because clarinet doesn't supply a wrestling group, one needs to be
created to serve the same purpose.

rec.sport.pro-wrestling.{fantasy,info} Final Vote Ack

rec.sport.pro-wrestling.info ----+
                                         rec.sport.pro-wrestling.fantasy ---+|
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ab542@freenet.carleton.ca                              Oliver Postlethwaite YN
actor@telerama.lm.com                                   Philip R. Spagnolli YY
adb@albert.bu.edu                                               Adam Bryant NN
af229@freenet.buffalo.edu                               Nick R. Protokowicz YN
ai293@freenet.carleton.ca                                   Gary K McDonald NN
al198723@academ01.mty.itesm.mx                              Eugenio Sanchez NN
amberle@epx.cis.umn.edu                                   Amberle S Ferrian NN
amslerd@io.org                                                Daniel Amsler Y-
andyl@harlequin.com                                              Andy Latto YY
andys@world.std.com                                          Andrew Shulman NY
antersbe@informatik.tu-muenchen.de                       Stefan Antesberger NN
ap3b+@andrew.cmu.edu                                           Aidan Palmer YY
arp@shell.portal.com                                          Andy Patrizio YY
at764@freenet.carleton.ca                                      Russ Boucher YY
ault@cs.albany.edu                                               James Ault NN
bbacon@clark.net                                                 Bill Bacon NY
bbs.g-man@tsoft.net                                           David B. Taub YN
becker@jaflrn.Morse.Net                                          Don Becker YY
beckmann@Informatik.Mathematik.Uni-Mainz.DE              Markus A. Beckmann YY
bh929@cleveland.Freenet.Edu                                      Mike Palij YY
billones@access.digex.net                                   Jeremy Billones YY
birchall@pilot.njin.net                                                Shag NN
bjv@herbison.com                                              B.J. Herbison -Y
blair@mksol.dseg.ti.com                                        Arthur Blair NN
BREITZSP@CNSVAX.UWEC.EDU                                Scott Paul Breitzka YY
Bruce.Mcgeorge@UC.EDU                                        Bruce McGeorge YN
BSOSComputerLab@bss2.umd.edu                                     Doug Smith YY
buncep@cix.compulink.co.uk                                   Caroline Bunce YY
C621097@mizzou1.missouri.edu                                    Steve Black YN
catseye@minerva.cis.yale.edu                                 Mark Kupferman NN
cdpyhtil@mtu.edu                                              Chris Pyhtila YY
chrispy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu                          Christopher G. Palacios -Y
chrisqu@minerva.robadome.com                                    Chris Quinn YY
cmarble@osiris.ac.hmc.edu                                      Chris Marble YY
cohenc@dbisna.com                                               Caleb Cohen NN
crawford@sjuphil.sju.edu                     Jeff Crawford crawford@sju.edu YY
crouchkp@flidh102.delcoelect.com                                K.P. Crouch NN
crp5754@erfsys01.boeing.com                                     Chris Payne NN
csfb1!phantom!jmelillo@uunet.UU.NET                             Joe Melillo YY
cspot@netcom.com                                               Chris.Hilker YY
ctward@dal.mobil.com                                             Chris Ward NN
CYBY@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA                                            Bart Beaty YY
DCF@ac.dal.ca                                              Jason D. Steeves YY
DJK5%PSUVM.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU                              Dave Ketchen YY
dmurphy@cwa.com                                                  Dan Murphy NN
doctor8@iglou.com                                                Clay Evans YY
donaldma@uoguelph.ca                                          Donald Martin YY
drayer@minerva.cis.yale.edu                                  Rebecca Drayer NY
dss2k@poe.acc.virginia.edu                                    David Strauss YY
duggan@cc.gatech.edu                                            Rick Duggan YY
eab@msc.edu                                                  Edward Bertsch NN
ECAXRON@ARIEL.LERC.NASA.GOV                                      Ron Graham YY
edmond@access.digex.net                                         Edmond Wolf YY
erodgers@whale.st.usm.edu                                 Elizabeth Rodgers NN
eschles@merle.acns.nwu.edu                                 Evan Schlesinger YN
FALKNEMJ@CNSVAX.UWEC.EDU                                       Mike Falkner YY
finn@netcom.com                                                 Robert Finn NN
fsspr@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu                               Sean P. Ryan YY
fuy1@gl.umbc.edu                                                 Francis Uy N-
GaLliF!yadallee@ERsys.EDmonTON.Ab.cA                  Dave Shariff Yadallee YY
gary@cs.dal.ca                                                Gary Sneddon  YY
gentile@husc.harvard.edu                                     Thomas Gentile YN
gl8f@fermi.clas.virginia.edu                                   Greg Lindahl NN
gregg@Outback.ny.TPC.com                                    Greg Gershowitz YY
gsearle@uoguelph.ca                                          Gregory Searle YY
gspear+@CMU.EDU                                              Geoffrey Spear NN
gt0670e@prism.gatech.edu                                   Brennan T. Price NN
hekunze@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca                                      Herb Kunze YY
hson@ludd.luth.se                                           Roger H}kansson NN
hughes@studsys.mscs.mu.edu                                  Brett J. Hughes YY
irwin@osustat.mps.ohio-state.edu                                 Mark Irwin YY
jas30@postoffice.mail.edu                                      Joshua Stein YY
jewell@Data-IO.COM                                               Cal Jewell YY
jfortt@dorsai.dorsai.org                                       Joseph Fortt NY
jfoy@glia.biostr.washington.edu                                 Jeffery Foy YY
jjermani@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU                                   John Jermanis YN
jls@summit.novell.com                                    Jonathan Schilling -Y
JNSIMS01@ULKYVX.LOUISVILLE.EDU                                              NY
joelt@wariat.org                                          Joel W. Tscherne  YY
john@iastate.edu                                               John Hascall NN
John_Stevenson@magic-bbs.corp.apple.com                      John Stevenson YY
jrandles@carl.org                                              Jeff Randles YY
julian@bongo.tele.com                                       Julian Macassey NN
jw@ufcc.ufl.edu                                                 JAY TARLOWE YY
j_herlih@oz.plymouth.edu                                                Axl NN
k2ph@dxis.monroe.pa.us                               Robert A. Schreibmaier YY
Kari.Hurtta@fmi.fi                                           Kari E. Hurtta NN
keith@amisk.cs.ualberta.ca                                      Scott Keith YY
kepper@rs6000.ivcc.edu                                  Richard John Kepper YY
knappre@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu                                   Ralph Knapp YY
krish@vuse.vanderbilt.edu                                                   NN
ktp@netcom.com                                          Khantipol Kasemsant YY
L15D@ZFN.UNI-BREMEN.DE                                     Martin Schr"oder YY
len@contec.COM                                                Leonard Mills YY
LRHST3@vms.cis.pitt.edu                                      Lucinda Hittle NN
LT_ST434125@emuvax.emich.edu                                 Dominic Macika YY
M.D.A.Varley@bradford.ac.uk                                     Mark Varley YN
mad5c@server.cs.virginia.edu                                 Michael DeLong NN
mathnews@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca                      Curtis Desjardins YY
mb@agar.oche.de                                              Marcus Breiing NN
mcgee@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu                                           Brad McGee YY
mgrimes@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu                            Michael Grimes YN
mikeehli@cie-2.uoregon.edu                                     Michael Ehli YY
mjforres@mailbox.syr.edu                                  Maurice Forrester YN
mmt@RedBrick.COM                                              Maxime Taksar --
mordraut@bga.com                                                 B Mckenney YY
mpg@bronze.coil.com                                              Bill Moser YY
mrmathis@ingr.com                           Mike Mathis (mrmathis@ingr.com) YN
nbc2569@dbmsmail.dsac.dla.mil                               Chris Schneider Y-
nexus@isis.cgd.ucar.EDU                                          Jeff Berry YY
ottoh3@cfsmo.honeywell.com                            Otto "Hack-Man" Heuer YY
owcfstev@web.apc.org                                            J Stevenson YY
pdherzog@hooter.aud.alcatel.com                              Paul D. Herzog YY
peterb@telerama.lm.com                                Peter G. Berger, Esq. NN
plutchak@porter.geo.brown.edu                                 Joel Plutchak N-
pmartin@virginia.edu                                      Patrick M. Martin YY
PMBARLOW@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu                                 Peter Barlow -Y
pmbarry@acs.ucalgary.ca                                                     NY
polzer@cs.ucsd.edu                                           Andreas Polzer NN
ppyiajc@ppn3.physics.nottingham.ac.uk                            Andy Cross NN
quinn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU                                   Michael Quinn YY
rankins@sybase.com                                              Ray Rankins YY
reyes@buphyk.bu.edu                                            Jinara Reyes NN
rick@bcm.tmc.edu                                             Richard Miller NY
rkeller@andy.bgsu.edu                                          robin keller -Y
ronnie@cisco.com                                                 Ronnie kon NN
rowe_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz                                 Samuel Peter Rowe YY
rrusbasa@nyx10.cs.du.edu                                       Bob Rusbasan YY
rstrauss@netcom.com                                          Robert Strauss YY
rufinus@cae.wisc.edu                                             J. Rufinus YY
siamak@kaiwan.com                                             Siamak Ansari NN
smarry@turing.toronto.edu                                      Smarasderagd NN
spatters@gnu.ai.mit.edu                                                     YN
SPB@tntv6.ntrs.com                                             Steve Bonine NN
spr@ai.gtri.gatech.edu                                          Stefan Roth YY
sst@MIT.EDU                                                       S. Tucker NY
stainles@bga.com                                               Dwight Brown NN
steveso@WPI.EDU                                                Steven Sousa YY
tcreasy@tinker.appliedmicro.ns.ca                                Tim Creasy NN
tenberg@hot.gun.de                                           Helmut Tenberg NN
terra@netcom.com                                             Terra Goodnght NN
thyat@metronet.com                                                Tom Hyatt YN
timv@ccad.uiowa.edu                                       Timothy VanFosson NN
TJ_MOLL@PAVO.CONCORDIA.CA                                       Thomas Moll NN
Todd.Benson@Colorado.EDU                                     Todd R. Benson YY
tomas@cae.wisc.edu                                             Tomas Willis NN
tonyt@bluesky.equinox.gen.nz                                Tony Trewinnard YY
uswnvg!rcrouch@uunet.UU.NET                                      Rob Crouch YY
V058KCHY@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu                                 Joseph Avolio YY
vader@marcam.com                                                  Rob Follo YY
verch@cedar.buffalo.edu                                         Jason Verch NN
vonhaam@MIT.EDU                                                Eric vonHaam YY
vpnet!vpnet!vagrant@cyclone.xnet.com                           Guy Umbright NN
walker@suntan.eng.usf.edu    Patrick E. Peters (borrowing account of John W Y-
WARD@ernie.van.forintek.ca                                     Ward F. Bush NN
will.rogers@ftl.mese.com                             William Michael Rogers NN
will@ecf.toronto.edu                                              Gary Will YN
willem@UnbSJ.CA                                           Willem Dykeshoorn YY
wyatt.cox@delta.com                                               Wyatt Cox YY
zahn.5@popmail.acs.ohio-state.edu                            Dennis F. Zahn NY
zimmerma@ucrengr.UCR.EDU                        Christopher Robin Zimmerman YY

References

CFV: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.{fantasy,info}
rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Fri, 20 May 1994 18:47:32 +0000
2nd CFV: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.{fantasy,info}
rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Tue, 31 May 1994 19:53:33 +0000