BSE Digest V1 #12 From: kerry@io.com (Kerry Harrison) Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 04:47:24 +0000 BSE Digest Wednesday, 9 November 1994 Volume 01 : Number 012 In this issue: + BSE: Stargates + Re: BSE: Stargates + BSE: New Life for Old Ships + BOUNCED Re: BSE: New Life for Old Ships + Re: BSE: New Life for Old Ships + BSE: Ships + [none] + BSE: New Life for Old Ships + Re: BSE: Ships + Re: BSE: New Life for Old Ships See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the bse-list or bse-digest mailing lists. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Hatcher <ZU02380@UABDPO.DPO.UAB.EDU> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 94 18:14:42 CST Subject: BSE: Stargates Would some kind soul post the current Stargate Grid? Alan ------------------------------ From: Kerry Harrison <kerry@io.com> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 19:08:40 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: BSE: Stargates On Tue, 8 Nov 1994, Alan Hatcher wrote: > Would some kind soul post the current Stargate Grid? > > Alan > Here, use at your own risk: CP 1 - Capellan (IMP) [Stargate:350/Y] CP 2 - Newbian (IMP) [Stargate:1838/Y] CP 4 - Trian (IMP) [Stargate:736/Y] CP 6 - Einstein (IMP) [Stargate:2647/?] CP 9 - Old World (IMP) [Stargate:2438/Y] CP 18 - Rampant (IMP) [Stargate:235/?] CP 23 - Barque (IMP) [Stargate:1448/Y, Stargate:2436/?] CP 43 - Drell (QSN) [Stargate:637/Y] TH 54 - Porkomo (WCE) [Stargate:1559/Y] TH 62 - Linck (WCE) [Stargate:1838/?] TH 84 - Diamond (PGJ) [Stargate:856/Y] TH 87 - Kellon [Stargate:1849/N] TH 94 - Limond [Stargate:1443/N] TH 98 - Merolla (FGZ) [Stargate:1647/?] TC 111 - Park (ZCS) [SG:?/?] CP - Capellan Periphery, TC - Trans-Canally, TH - Transhole ------------------------------ From: steve668@dallas.relay.ucm.org Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 07:22:51 CST Subject: BSE: New Life for Old Ships Kerry, I thought the whole point of downsizing ships (starcaptain thing) was 'cause folks felt that there were too many big ships. This just makes the big ships bigger, and creates a whole new generation of big ships. Besides, what about the "research, research, research" aspect that RTG keeps pushing? Research the bigger hull and then use it to boost the ship. Steve ------------------------------ From: Kerry Harrison <kerry@io.com> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 09:48:20 -0600 (CST) Subject: BOUNCED Re: BSE: New Life for Old Ships - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 21:47:21 -0600 To: bse-list@io.com From: walt@solgrp.chi.il.us (Walt Pesch) Subject: Re: BSE: New Life for Old Ships Well, it certainly does help affiliations that do not have hull shift bonuses. Lets see, this "feature" reduces the QSN bonus from 20% to 6.67%. Similarly for the other aliens. Another advantage for the human-centric universe... Walt ------------------------------ From: Kerry Harrison <kerry@io.com> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 13:17:44 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: BSE: New Life for Old Ships On Wed, 9 Nov 1994 steve668@dallas.relay.ucm.org wrote: > Kerry, > I thought the whole point of downsizing ships (starcaptain thing) was 'cause > folks felt that there were too many big ships. This just makes the big ships > bigger, and creates a whole new generation of big ships. Besides, what about > the "research, research, research" aspect that RTG keeps pushing? Research > the bigger hull and then use it to boost the ship. Downsizing the ships is fine - except the smaller ships really can't do that much in the game compared to the larger ships and why would anyone in their right mind (as if any PBMers were in their right mind to begin with) pay good money to run what is basically a crippled position. My proposal makes the ships more robust and useful (from my point of view) and also puts them more in line with size and scope of colonies in the game. Kerry ------------------------------ From: Jackmyster@aol.com Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 16:28:07 -0500 Subject: BSE: Ships Den of Earth is interested in purchasing ships for any group. Please contact me via "space link" <e-mail> It matters not what kind, etc. Lord Den of Earth ------------------------------ From: steve668@dallas.relay.ucm.org Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 17:48:55 CST Subject: [none] United Press Intergalactic - News Update Dateline: 194-44, Forus/New Boston Another RIP colony falls At a press conference held aboard the ISP Dreadnought Pommern, flagship of the ISP 3rd Battle Squadron, RAdm. Meyer, announced the fall of RIP colony Slave Driver (1864). Showing footage of the battle, he explained how rather than fight for the doomed pirate base, the Imperial assault GP landed outside the colony, while the fleet subjected the already crippled pirate base to another ferocious bombardment. After the battle, the Imperial GP attacked the colony. 2 RIP ships were found hiding there, both War Galleys. After the briefing, the press was permitted to view the shattered remains of the colony. ISP shuttles landed reporters at what was left of the starport. Upon exiting the shuttles, we observed that all that was left of the pirate base was numerous collapsed buildings, burned bodies, and smashed equipment everywhere. ISP ground force officers reported that no enemy resistance was encountered at the colony, due to the second bombardment which delivered another 30,000 mu of damage to the pirate's ground defenses, obliterated what was left of the space defenses, and delivered another 37,400 damage to the colony proper. All that was seen to be left of the colony was nothing more than a hole in the ground. Lt. Col. Sielke, commander of the attacking Imperial unit (1/66 AR), explained that Slave Driver would be left as this hole in the ground, as a reminder to all pirates. When asked about the 2 pirate ships, the Imperial officer explained that their engine section would be blown, and the hulks left as further testimony of the battle. The RIP shipyards here would be destroyed, and the hulls confiscated to further the Imperial offensive against the pirates. As the press shuttle left New Boston, additional Imperial assault units appeared to be landing, but the PAO officer aboard the shuttle had no comments on this. Joe Bob Briggs UPI News ------------------------------ From: steve668@dallas.relay.ucm.org Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 18:01:30 CST Subject: BSE: New Life for Old Ships Kerry, As I understood it, folks all WANTED smaller ships, as well as RTG, because of the new area. Everyone will basically be starting out from scratch there, and John Doe's weenie little FF will actually be useful... without any modifications. Also, if i'm not mistaken, this was sorta brought up at the conference, and the answer was "research"... discover a bigger ship or a better hull. In fact, hypothetically, if the WCE researched this "double hull", folks would all come floking to the WCE to buy these hulls instead of the EEM single hull. BTW, in regards to the MYR, uping them to 60 hull *AND* the double hull, and each MYR ship becomes equal to an FGZ baseship of now. Steve ------------------------------ From: btb4@Lehigh.EDU (B T Braun) Date: Wed, 09 Nov 1994 23:21:44 EST Subject: Re: BSE: Ships > >Den of Earth is interested in purchasing ships for any group. > >Please contact me via "space link" <e-mail> It matters not what kind, etc. > >Lord Den of Earth > Fantastic! The Holidays come early. I would like to extend the gratitude of the entire USS for your magnanimous offer. At your earliest convenience, please purchase for the USS 6 each of DN, Merchantman, Baseship. Once again, our eternal thanks. Be seeing you, Brad Braun btb4@lehigh.edu ///////////////////*********************************************\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ "We are here to rescue Bob the Baboon from the clutches of the evil shampoo and lipstick overlords!" -Nietzsche >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ------------------------------ From: Kerry Harrison <kerry@io.com> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 22:37:31 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: BSE: New Life for Old Ships On Wed, 9 Nov 1994 steve668@dallas.relay.ucm.org wrote: > As I understood it, folks all WANTED smaller ships, as well as RTG, because > of the new area. Everyone will basically be starting out from scratch there, > and John Doe's weenie little FF will actually be useful... without any > modifications. Also, if i'm not mistaken, this was sorta brought up at the > conference, and the answer was "research"... discover a bigger ship or a > better hull. In fact, hypothetically, if the WCE researched this "double > hull", folks would all come floking to the WCE to buy these hulls instead of > the EEM single hull. Smaller ships are fine, but they need to be able to do more in my opinion, one has to but look at the other space operas on the market to see that the value for dollar on the smaller BSE ships is hideously low. > > BTW, in regards to the MYR, uping them to 60 hull *AND* the double hull, > and each MYR ship becomes equal to an FGZ baseship of now. > Yeah, but it's still an easy nut to crack. Kerry ------------------------------ End of BSE Digest V1 #12 ************************ To subscribe to bse-digest, send the command: subscribe bse-digest in the body of a message to "Majordomo@io.com". 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