BSE Digest V1 #24 From: kerry@io.com (Kerry Harrison) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 1994 18:16:38 +0000 BSE Digest Monday, 5 December 1994 Volume 01 : Number 024 In this issue: + BSE: GENCON/ORIGIN + BSE: GM Bashing + BSE: Quarantine of Nopthree + [none] + Re: BSE: GENCON/ORIGIN + BSE: BSE- Thoughts on Fuel + Re: BSE: Convention Meeting + BSE: Convention Meeting + BSE: Needed: One item list + BSE: Research Colonies + Re: BSE: GENCON/ORIGIN See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the bse-list or bse-digest mailing lists. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Meredith <74214.2743@compuserve.com> Date: 04 Dec 94 13:09:41 EST Subject: BSE: GENCON/ORIGIN When and were are these two these days. I know ORIGIN 91 was in Baltimore (I think it was summer/fall). I haven't a clue where US GENCONs are, I've gone to one of the UK GENCONs and it was smaller than ORIGIN 91 (which is the first place I saw ABM/BSE.) ------------------------------ From: Charles Meredith <74214.2743@compuserve.com> Date: 04 Dec 94 13:09:43 EST Subject: BSE: GM Bashing >>>Where I disagree is in taking this type of thing private. *I* need to see this type of discussion to know what is going on. Perhaps we all need to be a little more accepting of rulings made by RTG such as this one for the reasons stated quite nicely in your note and not PROLONG these 'discussions' more than they need to be.<<< I agree with public discussion; but when it devolves into a bashing sesson it serves noone. ------------------------------ From: steve668@dallas.relay.ucm.org Date: Sun, 4 Dec 1994 13:13:18 CST Subject: BSE: Quarantine of Nopthree Brad, all kidding aside, based upon a recent report from a MYR explorer, the IND colony Nopfour was literaly "eaten" by the lifeform Nopthree. Only a few traces of the colony still exist. The MYR examined and discovered that the lifeform is eating the moon and everything on it from the inside out. Any position landing there is in possible danger. And since it is a young lifeform, anyone who damages it, risks angering the adult Boktars. The MYR report was considered credible enough to warrent a quarantine (their recommendation, BTW). Of course if you want a planet sized alien lifeform PO'd at your ship or to find your ship ingested as part of junior's morning repast, a special exemption might be arranged. Steve M. ------------------------------ From: steve668@dallas.relay.ucm.org Date: Sun, 4 Dec 1994 13:28:03 CST Subject: [none] PUBLIC SERVICE NOTICE Last week, a RIP ship attacked and disabled the Capellan Stargate (SSL owned). There was an ISP Dreadnought present, fully armed that would've fried the RIP ship in 1 round of battle. The ISP DN had "all ISP posted" on it's enemy list. RIP is ISP posted yet no battle was triggered. I discussed this in depth (not intending to turn back the clock and force a battle, but to prevent future recurrances of this). Apparantly there is a game glitch which ABM would do by hand. How ABM kept track of who was where by hand is unkown. Somehow, in the stuff turned over to RTG, a ship posted by affil. XYZ will trigger a battle if the specific ship is listed, but will not if only the affil. is listed. Strange but true. Pete is looking into to the why and how, and will try to fix the glitch. This public service announcement serves to warn everyone that has a specific affil. posted (as opposed to specific positions) of the problem so that y'all can keep closer track of scan reports for battles that should've occured but didn't due to this glitch. Steve M. ------------------------------ From: Alan Hatcher <ZU02380@UABDPO.DPO.UAB.EDU> Date: Sun, 04 Dec 94 18:30:05 CST Subject: Re: BSE: GENCON/ORIGIN On 04 Dec 94 13:09:41 EST Charles Meredith said: > When and were are these two these days. I know ORIGIN 91 was in >I've gone to one of the UK GENCONs and it was smaller than ORIGIN 91 (which is >the first place I saw ABM/BSE.) I have no idea where Origins will be located this year, but GenCon will be in Milwaukee, Wisconsin in August just like it always is. Even though it's sponsored by TSR and their name is all over it, the convention has been very entertaining the 2 times I've attended, with a lot of gaming besides TSR stuff going on. Alan ------------------------------ From: Law2Be@aol.com Date: Sun, 4 Dec 1994 20:51:17 -0500 Subject: BSE: BSE- Thoughts on Fuel If fuel is to be considered, then perhaps requiring the fissionables used to create the engine hulls must be replaced during maintenance. This could be by buying it from the market (like hulls for an upgrade), or having it in cargo at the time. This would satisfy the "need" for realism, simplicity, and logic, all simultaneously. It would not be a bad idea with this rationale, but creating a change in philosophy re:maint just to try to flesh out the mechanics of thrust engine function is kinda ridiculous. I could go for replacing something that already exists ie, fissionables in the engine hulls, but could not go for -creating- something new. Rick ------------------------------ From: Law2Be@aol.com Date: Sun, 4 Dec 1994 20:57:50 -0500 Subject: Re: BSE: Convention Meeting You might want to see if Steve is going before you say your going to bring black lotus!!!! And where/when is GENCON this year? ------------------------------ From: steve668@dallas.relay.ucm.org Date: Sun, 4 Dec 1994 23:22:09 CST Subject: BSE: Convention Meeting > You might want to see if Steve is going.... Unless it's in Dallas/Ft Worth area, I don't go to it...period. Steve ------------------------------ From: Richard Chiang <richc@ocf.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Sun, 4 Dec 1994 23:59:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: BSE: Needed: One item list I am working from the electronic version of the rules. The electronic version is okay except for one minor detail. I need an ITEM LIST. It is kinda hard to produce stuff without. Would someone be so kind as to post or email me a current item list. You can save it in ascii or if you are using the MS Windows Cardfile that is okay too. BTW, a current command list for ships, ground parties, and colonies would be helpful too. The one with the rules looks a bit out of date. For example, condensed metals (command to uncondense and condense and do they take factory production to do so. Thanks. Richard W. Chiang richc@ocf.berkeley.edu QSN EMAIL Propagandist ------------------------------ From: "Middleton, Charles" <cmiddlet@SSBPOST.env.gov.bc.ca> Date: Mon, 05 Dec 1994 00:10:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: BSE: Research Colonies Below you will find some idea's about research colonies. Don't all scream at once, as I can only read so fast. I am also looking at that governors who want to turn their colony into a research colony because the are reaching the limit of the number of factories that the can support with the mineral resources that they have. One of those governors happens to be me with SMS Phaedrus. If I can keep my morale at 65-70 I could still run almost all of my 450+ factories while still being a research colony. Research Colonies Limitations - Only 3 Maintenance Complex's - Only 3 Repair Complex's - Security complex's are only 50% effective - No shipyard complex's - Agents have a 25% better success rate - Security crackdown is 30% less effective and 30% more morale damage - No thorlium coating on ships - Less effective space damage - Less Ground forces allowed - No militia allowed - Surrenders easier when attacked - must have more CRL's than factories. Maybe 2 or 3 to 1 ratio. The above represents that you now have a large amount of eggheads in your colony who don't like the military, security they believe is a joke or something to be broken, and doing manual labour is for undergraduate students or people who didn't go to college. They want to spend all of their time in the lab, or telling other people how great they are doing. I think that we should also have to designate what type of research colony we want to be. IE Ground Weapons Space Weapons Ship Design/Modifications Drugs/ Luxury goods Mining/Processing Production Biomedical/Chemical Plus more The reason behind this is that major universities specialize. It takes a lot of resources to make a good biomedical research university. These people are not going to just turn around and research "Quarks" with out having to change personnel, equipment, buildings. I am not saying that they can't but their chance of success will be lower that of a university that specializes in "Quarks". Charles Middleton ------------------------------ From: ccharnle@m-net148.arbornet.org (Chip Charnley) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 94 07:50 EST Subject: Re: BSE: GENCON/ORIGIN > When and were are these two these days. I know ORIGIN 91 was in >Baltimore (I think it was summer/fall). I haven't a clue where US GENCONs are, >I've gone to one of the UK GENCONs and it was smaller than ORIGIN 91 (which is >the first place I saw ABM/BSE.) > > > GENCON is always in mid-August in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. ORIGINS 95 is going to be in Philidelphia, Pennsylvania. Of late (last several years) ORIGINS has been the weekend of July 4th however, I seem to remember seeing something to the effect that it was going to be the weekend AFTER the 4th of July this year. Chip Charnley ------------------------------ End of BSE Digest V1 #24 ************************ To subscribe to bse-digest, send the command: subscribe bse-digest in the body of a message to "Majordomo@io.com". 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