BSE Digest V1 #55 From: kerry@io.com (Kerry Harrison) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 1995 22:13:54 +0000 BSE Digest Saturday, 21 January 1995 Volume 01 : Number 055 In this issue: + Re: BSE: Pleasure Slaves -Reply + BSE: FGZ Stuff + BSE: Pleasure Slaves + Re: BSE: Pleasure Slaves + BSE: IMPORTANT NOTICE ABOUT THIS LIST + Re: BSE: IMPORTANT NOTICE ABOUT THIS LIST + BSE: Some Starport Rumors + BSE: NOTICE - The List Has Moved + BSE: Who's Who on the List See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the bse-list or bse-digest mailing lists. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phil Krauskopf <pkrauskopf@FALCON.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 1995 11:28:14 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: Pleasure Slaves -Reply Why not just call them Whores, hookers, or prostitutes. There's no ambiguity associated with these terms. Phil K. ------------------------------ From: Jackmyster@aol.com Date: Sat, 21 Jan 1995 12:29:59 -0500 Subject: BSE: FGZ Stuff Greetings All: The following is a "break down" of the FGZ positions. Jack Ferguson: Ataman and Alien Relations Dan Fisher: Periphery and Human Relations Chris Makowski: TH Military Advisor I may be reached via e-mail Dan may be reached @ 915.365.2043 Chris may be reached via e-mail (Narz'Zard 'Zkok) on CIS at 74551,3412. The majority of the "stuff" will be handled threw either Dan or myself. If you need to speak with a Military Advisor, they'll contact you.<BG> Also for those humans who are a little upset by Den of Earth's name, Den is part human...(an 8 foot tall "grey" human?) If any of you want to know more about him, let me know. Bests- J. ------------------------------ From: steve668@dallas.relay.ucm.org Date: Sat, 21 Jan 1995 11:19:04 CST Subject: BSE: Pleasure Slaves I just spoke with RTG, they confirm the definition as: sentients forcibly pressed into service for the purpose of gratification of other sentients. Along the lines of the White Slave trade in the far East (ref: white female tourists in some far East countries are sometimes kidnapped and sold into slavery of this type to wealthy Arabs and others. Story was shown on 60 Minutes about 2 years ago). Therefore, considering the definition, the IMP government considers Pleasure slaves to be illegal, and a postable offense under IMP Law #1: slavery. Note: to those feeling that their pleasure slaves were voluntary, a suggestion was made; perhaps a new item "pleasure workers" which would encompass "volunteers". Of course, this would have to be researched. Steve M. (ISP PD von Ludendorf) ------------------------------ From: Richard Chiang <richc@ocf.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 1995 10:12:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: BSE: Pleasure Slaves On Sat, 21 Jan 1995 steve668@dallas.relay.ucm.org wrote: > I just spoke with RTG, they confirm the definition as: sentients forcibly > pressed into service for the purpose of gratification of other sentients. > Along the lines of the White Slave trade in the far East (ref: white female > tourists in some far East countries are sometimes kidnapped and sold into > slavery of this type to wealthy Arabs and others. Story was shown on 60 > Minutes about 2 years ago). > > Therefore, considering the definition, the IMP government considers Pleasure > slaves to be illegal, and a postable offense under IMP Law #1: slavery. > > Note: to those feeling that their pleasure slaves were voluntary, a > suggestion was made; perhaps a new item "pleasure workers" which would > encompass "volunteers". Of course, this would have to be researched. > > Steve M. > (ISP PD von Ludendorf) > Wow. That really screws up some colonies. Hmm. Does the WCE forbid slavery because I have noticed that a large percentage of their colonies that pleasure slaves. Boy I hate when rules change on you. ------------------------------ From: steve668@dallas.relay.ucm.org Date: Sat, 21 Jan 1995 11:41:25 CST Subject: BSE: IMPORTANT NOTICE ABOUT THIS LIST Kerry, As you know, mine is one of the Internet relays. As a relay, all messages go thru approx. 2 other servers before they reach BSE-L, or back. The net server to which my relay belongs strips the "from" line from a message to replace it with "bse-list", and strips the entire Internet header out, so that all messages reaching me are anonymous. What of the reverse? Do my messages that go to the list arrive with my return address? I ask because of your switch, the documentation requires that any messages I send have my "recorded" email address on them. If they don't come through right, sswitch me to my alternate address of: Ludendorf@Delphi.com <public so others using a relay can investigate their own servers> \ Steve M. ------------------------------ From: Kerry Harrison <kerry@io.com> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 1995 12:17:51 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: BSE: IMPORTANT NOTICE ABOUT THIS LIST On Sat, 21 Jan 1995 steve668@dallas.relay.ucm.org wrote: > Kerry, > As you know, mine is one of the Internet relays. As a relay, all messages go > thru approx. 2 other servers before they reach BSE-L, or back. The net > server to which my relay belongs strips the "from" line from a message to > replace it with "bse-list", and strips the entire Internet header out, so > that all messages reaching me are anonymous. What of the reverse? Do my > messages that go to the list arrive with my return address? I ask because of > your switch, the documentation requires that any messages I send have my > "recorded" email address on them. If they don't come through right, sswitch > me to my alternate address of: Ludendorf@Delphi.com > <public so others using a relay can investigate their own servers> > \ > Steve M. > Steve, Your messages show as: "From: steve668@dallas.relay.ucm.org" so it should work okay. Kerry ------------------------------ From: Kerry Harrison <kerry@io.com> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 1995 14:58:15 -0600 (CST) Subject: BSE: Some Starport Rumors What is going on with the Imperials??? Aren't they guarding their stargates at all. The lowly RIP have damaged a third one! The Periphery Directors of the various companies are getting sick of it. - --- Imperial sources have revealed that recent incursions into the Geneb system by vessels from the RIP House of Acoma have awaken Snittians all throughout the Periphery and they are not too happy with the Imps. - --- An SMS prospector discovered an asteroid of solid Korondite, but the company is suppressing the news to avoid depressing the price. They're sending ships to every market that's buying any, and will all sell at once. Then they'll be richer than the GTT! - --- While enjoying a mug of stimbrew at your favorite bar, you overhear a group of AFT officers raise a toast. Listening closer, you hear "...to Horst Treyder, a traitor if ever there ever was one...may he and his kin rot in hell!" - --- Inner Empire scientists have been working on a superior Shield generator since 192 but have met with litle succes. Emperor Jasil is said to be quite displeased with the results. ------------------------------ From: Kerry Harrison <kerry@io.com> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 1995 16:09:17 -0600 (CST) Subject: BSE: NOTICE - The List Has Moved As of now the address to send messages to for the BSE Mailing List is bse-l@consensus.com. Also those of you receiving the BSE Digest (i.e. the digested version of this list) will receive it daily at 03:00 Pacific time now. ------------------------------ From: Kerry Harrison <kerry@io.com> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 1995 16:10:59 -0600 (CST) Subject: BSE: Who's Who on the List Beyond the Stellar Empire (BSE) Discussion List Members Active UK Players (KJC Version) - ---------------------------- Gavin Michael Beere <gmb@cs.nott.ac.uk> IMP Mark Buckle <mbuckle@delphi.com> SSL Godfather Steven Cook <100117.1233@compuserve.com> IMP Intelligence Bureau Director Alan Crump <100115.1035@compuserve.com> FET Executive Vice President Bent Dalager <bcd@pvv.unit.no> SMS Deputy Company Coordinator Stewart Davies <100344.3513@compuserve.com> IMP Chief Cartographer Kjetil Friden <cezton@nvg.unit.no> IMP Director of Colonisation and Trade Kerry Harrison <kerry@io.com> DOM Overlord Geoff Jollye <100414.3246@compuserve.com> IMP Patrol Commissioner Leif Roar Moldskred <leifm@stud.unit.no> IMP Martin Lovo Olsen <martin.l.olsen@stud.hint.no> IMP Lars Erik Stokka <larssto@alkymi.unit.no> SSL Active US Players (RTG Version) - ---------------------------- Wayne Alexander <71470.344@compuserve.com> EEM Periphery Director Chris Allen <gtt-pd@consensus.com> GTT Periphery Director Russell Boggs <russell_boggs@isisph.com> GTT Brad Braun <btb4@lehigh.edu> USS Transhole Coordinator Phil Breault <71563.216@compuserve.com> EEM Director of Transport & Security Stephen Brown <stephen.brown@pwrpalce.com> PFM Rick Burningham <law2be@aol.com> SMS Colonization/Research Coordinator Chip Charnley <ccharnle@m-net148.arbornet.org> WCE Richard Chiang <richc@ocf.berkeley.edu> QSN Todd Clapp <v176@rex.re.uokhsc.edu> ICN Periphery Director Bill Combs <bill_combs@ccm.jf.intel.com> AFT David Cromer <prothorax@aol.com> WSP Kevin Curnutt <76114.3576@compuserve.com> WCE Gene Ferguson <lordzefir@aol.com> EKN Jack Ferguson <jackmyster@aol.com> FGZ Jim Gagliardi <73377.2042@compuserve.com> EEM Director of Research/Engineering Richard Gurley <regstu@sun.cc.westga.edu> MYR George Hammond <gstarrh@umich.edu> USS Information Coordinator Kerry Harrison <kerry@io.com> WCE War Secretary Alan Hatcher <zu02380@uabdpo.dpo.uab.edu> AFT Research Czar Peter Henry <henry4633@aol.com> QSN Jerry Holmes <74103.375@compuserve.com> WCE Bill Hopkins <bhopkins@teleport.com> WCE Jay Ibbitson <72570.650@compuserve.com> EKN Dave Isaac <76170.2705@compuserve.com> AFT Negotiator John Jeffrey, II <jjeffrey@awod.com> ISS Periphery Director Ron Kleinman <ronk@eng.sun.com> QSN Phil Krauskopf <pkrauskopf@falcon.aamrl.wpafb.af.mil> WCE General Secretary Carl Linquist <73240.2556@compuserve.com> USS Periphery Director Vickie Lloyd <vlloyd@infomail.com> EEM Director of Marketing Chris Makowski <74551.3412@compuserve.com> FGZ Paul Mansfield <paulmans@tmn.com> WCE Steve Marte <stephmarte@aol.com> WCE Steve Mathews <steve668@dallas.relay.ucm.org> ISP Periphery Director Charles Meredith <74214.2743@compuserve.com> WCE Charles Middleton <cmiddlet@ssbpost.env.gov.bc.ca> SMS Defense Coordinator Rob Neal <rfn2@aol.com> FET Executive Vice President Bill Peltier <74224.1676@compuserve.com> USS Paul Postak <fk490@cleveland.freenet.edu> USS Associate Periphery Director Kenneth Reeves <72632.2104@compuserve.com> WCE Vernon Rothrock <dougmr@aol.com> ROC Shannon Rundquist <75477.1627@compuserve.com> MYR Speaker Joe Sanchez <71001.426@compuserve.com> WCE Paul Schneider <pauls@realm.net> WCE Derek Smith <derek_smith.lotus@crd.lotus.com> SMS Information Coordinator Richard Smith <74023.574@compuserve.com> MYR John Stanton <jjs@netcom.com> SMS Transhole Coordinator Jeff Stout <jeffstout@aol.com> ZCS Grey Prince Patrick Tyrrell <tyrrell@netcom.com> ICN Doug Wampler <wamp@thunder.indstate.edu> SMS Company Coordinator Wade Wheaton <marilith1@aol.com> FOE Inactive Players (either version) - ------------------------------- Anders Beitness <alb@cwa.com> ex-AFT Dean Alan Deal <70473.2114@compuserve.com> ex-SSL Tim Enright <74666.1306@compuserve.com> ex-IND Tony Filiato <73477.57@compuserve.com> ex-IND Dennis Forcier <73047.1521@compuserve.com> ex-USS Mark Hughes <mhughes@pms144.pms.ford.com> ex-SSL David Mongan <73510.3104@compuserve.com> ex-WCE Walt Pesch <walt@solgrp.chi.il.us> ex-QSN Paul Sinatra <76510.2760@compuserve.com> ex-WCE Mark Weiher <msweiher@aol.com> ex-EKN Eric Ziemer <ziemer@mcs.net> ex-FET GMs (either version) - -------------------- Thad Catone <rtgthad@aol.com> RTG Kevin Cropper <100412.2424@compuserve.com> KJC Pete Dorman <rtgames@aol.com> RTG Steven Fairbrother <100255.130@compuserve.com> KJC Others - ------ Thomas Hudson <hudson@cs.unc.edu> Allen Hunter <dragon_star@delphi.com> Hafizi Ibrahim <iih4@aber.ac.uk> Erik Ker <75027.2704@compuserve.com> Mark Ladley <mladley@aol.com> Chris Maikisch <cmaikisch@aol.com> Adam Parker <admparker@aol.com> Richard Persky <sceptrerp@aol.com> Don Pierce <70511.64@compuserve.com> John Pyrich <pyrich@cris.com> Simon Reed <simon@itd.tv.bbc.co.uk> Mike Rosko <rhyssa@aol.com> William Senke <wsenke@sonalysts.com> Hendrik Siegeln <100437.3137@compuserve.com> Rich Skrenta <bse@pbm.com> Ben Swain <csc2bds@cabell.vcu.edu> ------------------------------ End of BSE Digest V1 #55 ************************ To subscribe to bse-digest, send the command: subscribe bse-digest in the body of a message to "Majordomo@io.com". 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