BSE-L Digest 11 From: kerry@freeside.fc.net (Kerry Harrison) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 1995 16:40:48 +0000 BSE-L Digest 11 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Stellar Maps by steve668@dallas.relay.ucm.org 2) FGZ/IMP "deal" by steve668@dallas.relay.ucm.org 3) TRN positions? by steve668@dallas.relay.ucm.org 4) Re: FFN by Derek Smith <Derek_Smith.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com> 5) Re: The new rules - the stinkin' starcaptain thing by Derek Smith <Derek_Smith.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com> 6) Re: The new rules - the stinkin' starcaptain thing by btb4@Lehigh.EDU (B T Braun) 7) Re: The new rules - the stinkin' starcaptain thing -Reply by Phil Krauskopf <PKRAUSKOPF@FALCON.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL> 8) Re: The new rules - the stinkin' starcaptain thing -Reply by Phil Krauskopf <PKRAUSKOPF@FALCON.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL> 9) Re: Quman Recruitment by "Eric R. Ziemer" <ziemer@Mcs.Net> 10) Re: FGZ/IMP "deal" by ccharnle@m-net148.arbornet.org (Chip Charnley) 11) Re: Stellar Maps by ccharnle@m-net148.arbornet.org (Chip Charnley) 12) Re: BSE-L digest 8 by ANNOYED <100115.1035@compuserve.com> 13) BSE: Who's Who on the List by Kerry Harrison <kerry@io.com> 14) Re: BSE-L digest 10 by annoyed <100115.1035@compuserve.com> 15) Re: Stellar Maps by Henry4633@aol.com 16) Re: Stellar Maps by Richard Chiang <richc@ocf.Berkeley.EDU> 17) Re: Stellar Maps by fk490@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul D. Postak) 18) Re: Quman Recruitment by ccharnle@m-net148.arbornet.org (Chip Charnley) 19) NeverWhere by Jackmyster@aol.com 20) Re: BSE-minty pickle sour sauce by StephMarte@aol.com 21) Re: BSE-minty pickle sour sauce by StephMarte@aol.com 22) Stellar Maps by steve668@dallas.relay.ucm.org 23) The new rules - the stinkin' starcaptain thing by steve668@dallas.relay.ucm.org 24) Re: NeverWhere by Richard Chiang <richc@ocf.Berkeley.EDU> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 07:01:05 CST From: steve668@dallas.relay.ucm.org To: BSE-L@consensus.com Subject: Stellar Maps Message-ID: <9501310710.S18467539@dallas.relay.ucm.org> Chip, Is Ray coming back in? S. Mathews ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 07:06:43 CST From: steve668@dallas.relay.ucm.org To: BSE-L@consensus.com Subject: FGZ/IMP "deal" Message-ID: <9501310711.S18471301@dallas.relay.ucm.org> Chip, An FFN, or specifically, this FFN, is the one you, as James Retief, gave me to put aboard the ITS Koenigin Luise, back during the original Flagritz war of 183. Back then it didn't have a name, just called "alien artifact". I believe that you had long since dropped out when ABM named the item. Your then nickname for the item was "Snit Opener". You gave it to me, because the Koenigin L. was the first Starliner in the game, and you needed a troop transport to board Q-snit. Been a long time; easy to forget these things. S. Mathews ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 07:14:35 CST From: steve668@dallas.relay.ucm.org To: BSE-L@consensus.com Subject: TRN positions? Message-ID: <9501310720.S18476692@dallas.relay.ucm.org> Kevin, Sort of (neighbors).... I live in Garland, that's northeast of Dallas, you live about an hour's drive, West by Southwest of Dallas (fer all these yankees reading here) <g>. S. Mathews ------------------------------ Date: 30 Jan 95 11:50:30 ES From: Derek Smith <Derek_Smith.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com> To: BSE Mailing List <BSE_Mailing_List@crd.lotus.com> Subject: Re: FFN Message-ID: <9501311638.AA07433@internet1.lotus.com> >For the uninitiated, what is an FFN? >Chip >>Jack, >>You forgot to clarify for those who might insist that this means >>multiple BS, that this is 1 single, uncoated, freighter-only capable >>BS, to replace 1 triple coated SH carrying that rarest of artifacts, >>the FFN, (point of historical note: that had been the first FFN ever >>discovered). Not, a fleet of BS. >>S.Mathews >> >> FFN - Force Field Nullifier. there are some worlds (I don't know which, or where, but it's not hard to find out), that are completely protected by Force Fields. That means (among other things, I guess), that you CAN'T land on them. If you try, your ship "bounces off", and, I suppose, takes damage. A ship with a FFN can land on such a world. --Finvarra McCabe SMS Information Coordinator ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The best way to predict the future is to create it" --Jack Rosenberg aka Werner Erhard ------------------------------ Date: 30 Jan 95 10:25:11 ES From: Derek Smith <Derek_Smith.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com> To: BSE Mailing List <BSE_Mailing_List@crd.lotus.com> Subject: Re: The new rules - the stinkin' starcaptain thing Message-ID: <9501311643.AA08367@internet1.lotus.com> Sir Arthur Curry (WCE War Secretary) wrote: >Hail SMS, That's actually a very good idea. 8^) >In these days of bloated battleships i think the stinking >starcaptain rule is much needed! Otherwise the problem will be >much worse than you suggest. Affliations will be cranking out >dozens of mega-cruisers and handing them out to Gilligan, Maryann, >whomever. <OOC Mode ON> 'Scuse me, but given the reality of the situation (that being that there are only so many Imperial *PLAYERS*), the SMS cannot afford to rely *ENTIRELY* on the Imperials for protection. Secondly, the stinkin' starcaptain rule doesn't contain any degree of realism. I *CAN* get someone qualified to run my PB, so I *WILL*. If that isn't allowed, then it looks like the OBN of Warship-Building-Races/Affiliations are just trying to maintain their stranglehold. Face it, this rule means that the people who can build and run lots of warships will be the only ones who have them. That means that those of us WITHOUT such ability will be at their mercy. You'll be able to easily destroy the few that we have, and then we won't be able to replace them until we run a Merchant captain up to the appropriate rank. Using what will then be un/under-protected Merchant ships. Boy, does *that* ever sound like fun. Sounds like it's worth $6-$10 per turn to me. Yeah. Cool. Sign me up! Pete, Thad, I hope you're getting the hint here. But in case you're not, I'll make it clearer. I have recently returned to BSE because of the demise of the evil entity known as the "ex-GM". Had I known about this proposed rule at the time, I would have stayed out. I am fucking sick of being at the mercy of the affiliations that can build warships. This rule makes it worse. <OOC Mode OFF> >It would seem if a pilot were to join the SMS he should stick to his >chosen profession and use his skills to acquire a warship if that's >what he desires. Sure. That's what our merchant pilots do. However, what our COLONY GOVERNORS **NEED** is warship protection. Hence the SMS needs warships as well. Why don't you stop side-stepping that? >Come to think of it, i would be willing to pay an SMS pilot to do >some work for me. If you could suggest someone, or have one of your >starcaptains contact me, it would be much appreciated. I'll gladly look into it. <OOC Mode ON again> But note that the new rules are going to DESTROY the SMS exploration/prospecting advantages too. You hear that, RTG? <OOC Mode OFF again> >Regards, >Sir Arthur Curry To you as well, and hopefully you'll be an improvement over your predecessor. Actually, I think a Foelian would be an improvement over your predecessor. --Minister Finvarra McCabe, SMS Information Coordinator ------------------------------------------------------------------- "The best way to predict the future is to create it." --Jack Rosenberg ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 12:02:45 EST From: btb4@Lehigh.EDU (B T Braun) To: BSE-L@consensus.com Subject: Re: The new rules - the stinkin' starcaptain thing Message-ID: <199501311702.MAA95574@ns1.CC.Lehigh.EDU> Completely OOC: Steve, you've been out of the game a while. What's more, I'm not certain when you started following the "new rules" debates. Bottom line: a few of us really crunched the numbers and found, among other things, that ships are just way too small given the current scale of the game. Some RTG innovations, like a "new" area where ship sizes are limited (and presumably the existing aliens etc. are appropriately balanced), can help the situation, but aren't solutions. They flat out nixed ideas about changing colony growth curves. They flat out nixed ideas about increasing ship sizes. They did, however, agree to look at returning fleet turns to BSE. The starcaptain rule actually serves to further restrict the ability of affiliations/govts/races to balance colonies with ships, and so serves to worsen the problem. Personally, I don't care how they handle the game balance problems, but that is the job of the GM. The general answer has been "research", which might work, but it requires a certain amount of faith from the current crop of players since it solves nothing at the moment. Be seeing you, Brad Braun btb4@lehigh.edu ///////////////////*********************************************\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Brad's Sig. File Here >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 12:40:42 -0400 From: Phil Krauskopf <PKRAUSKOPF@FALCON.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL> To: BSE-L@consensus.com Subject: Re: The new rules - the stinkin' starcaptain thing -Reply Message-ID: <sf2e2fe4.018@FALCON.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL> [ooc: Derek, It seems to me that the effects of the starcaptain rule are completely independent of whether or not an affiliation can build warships, especially considering the large number of ship-building affiliations there are now ( I know the SMS has been quite successful in obtaining dreadnoughts). We are affected the same way as you. If we lose a starcaptain, we may have trouble replacing the ship, not because we can't build it, but because we can't use it. Personally, I think we need something like this rule, because it keeps people from succeeding by simply throwing more US $$ at a problem, instead of having to rely on good game-playing. Actually, I heard that RTG was looking at a different approach, where an ensign could pilot nay ship, but that ship would receive huge negative modifiers during battle, if it was too big. I could go for this too. With regards to building warships: what type of ships do you want to build? I suspect no affiliation would be happy unless it could build something in the MoW-DN range (I know I wouldn't be). Under the context of the game, however, this wouldn't make a lot of sense. No government with half a lick of sense would allow a private concern under its jurisdiction the potential to be more powerful than the government, itself. The temptation to overthrow the government would be too tempting in such a case. Thus, allowing every company suddenly build major warships would be very unfair to groups like the IMPs, who might well suddenly find itself out-gunned, with no time to prepare for it. If company-sponsored warship building is to be allowed into the game, I think it should be done through research (Thad cheers in the background). In addition, research into the capital warships should be an exceedingly difficult project for company affiliations. With regards to SMS speial abilities: If you guys are getting screwed, I suggest you talk it over with Pete and Thad. I'm sure it wasn't their intention to make you guys obsolete; rather, you've probably gotten bitten by their attempts to allow regular players to do more with their $$. I've found them both quite willing to listen to reason, and am sure you would too. Phil Krauskopf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 12:49:32 -0400 From: Phil Krauskopf <PKRAUSKOPF@FALCON.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL> To: BSE-L@consensus.com Subject: Re: The new rules - the stinkin' starcaptain thing -Reply Message-ID: <sf2e31f6.020@FALCON.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL> >>> B T Braun <btb4@Lehigh.EDU> 01/31/95 01:02pm >>> "...it requires a certain amount of faith from the current crop of players since it solves nothing at the moment." You're right; it does require some faith. But how many years did we all stay in BSE having "faith" in Mike P for changes that never came? Since we were that kind of sucker for so many years, I can't imagine us not having faith in RTG. Let's not mistake faith for patience... Phil K. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 14:13:40 -0600 (CST) From: "Eric R. Ziemer" <ziemer@Mcs.Net> To: BSE-L@consensus.com Subject: Re: Quman Recruitment Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9501311444.B22352-0100000@Mercury.mcs.com> It's STILL Barbara SIMONSEN, not Ziemer, although we have gone through a civil (but not yet a religious) ceremony. Anybody addressing her by my last name is likely to regret it! Eric R. Ziemer | Opinions expressed should not be attributed ziemer@tmn.com or | to any other person or organization. ziemer@mcs.com | Some days I don't even claim them myself! Chicago, IL | "IT'S ALL DONE WITH SMOKE AND MIRRORS!" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 95 17:51 WET From: ccharnle@m-net148.arbornet.org (Chip Charnley) To: BSE-L@consensus.com Subject: Re: FGZ/IMP "deal" Message-ID: <m0rZRQJ-000hcEC@m-net148.arbornet.org> Given that background, I definitely remember it. It came off the Glynian. Chip >Chip, >An FFN, or specifically, this FFN, is the one you, as James Retief, gave me >to put aboard the ITS Koenigin Luise, back during the original Flagritz war >of 183. Back then it didn't have a name, just called "alien artifact". I >believe that you had long since dropped out when ABM named the item. Your >then nickname for the item was "Snit Opener". You gave it to me, because the >Koenigin L. was the first Starliner in the game, and you needed a troop >transport to board Q-snit. Been a long time; easy to forget these things. > >S. Mathews > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 95 17:51 WET From: ccharnle@m-net148.arbornet.org (Chip Charnley) To: BSE-L@consensus.com Subject: Re: Stellar Maps Message-ID: <m0rZRQB-000hbOC@m-net148.arbornet.org> >Chip, >Is Ray coming back in? >S. Mathews > > Ray is back in. He is currently running a MOW (albeit 1 turn). However, he is probably going to trade it to Steve Marte to get his original (although upgraded) ship, the Shiloh, back. Chip ------------------------------ Date: 31 Jan 95 17:52:58 EST From: ANNOYED <100115.1035@compuserve.com> To: <BSE-L@consensus.com> Subject: Re: BSE-L digest 8 Message-ID: <950131225257_100115.1035_BHA62-1@CompuServe.COM> To the Ignorant Wanker who has ignored my repeated requests to remove me from his unwanted and unsolicited mailing service. WHY DON'T YOU FUCK OFF AND DIE !! WHAT'S MORE I HOPE THAT YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT MY LANGUAGE TO COMPUSERVE AS IF YOU CONTINUE TO SEND ME MORE OF YOUR CRAP I WILL DO MY DAMNEDEST TO GET YOUR ACCESS TO THIS AREA REVOKED "WITH CAUSE". I WILL BE MAKING FORMAL REPRESENTATIONS TO KJC REGARDING YOUR MAIL AND, IF YOU PERSIST IN SENDING ME "POSTAGE DUE" MESSAGES I WILL URGE THEM TO REMOVE YOU FROM THEIR VERSION OF THE GAME. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 16:55:33 -0600 (CST) From: Kerry Harrison <kerry@io.com> To: BSE Mailing List <bse-l@consensus.com> Subject: BSE: Who's Who on the List Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9501311624.A24876-0100000@pentagon.io.com> Beyond the Stellar Empire (BSE) Discussion List Members Active UK Players (KJC Version) ---------------------------- Gavin Michael Beere <gmb@cs.nott.ac.uk> IMP Russ Boggs <russell_boggs@isisph.com> DOM Mark Buckle <mbuckle@delphi.com> SSL Godfather Steven Cook <100117.1233@compuserve.com> IMP Intelligence Bureau Director Dave Cromer <prothorax@aol.com> DOM Alan Crump <100115.1035@compuserve.com> FET Executive Vice President Bent Dalager <bcd@pvv.unit.no> SMS Deputy Company Coordinator Stewart Davies <100344.3513@compuserve.com> IMP Chief Cartographer Kjetil Friden <cezton@nvg.unit.no> IMP Colonisation Director Kerry Harrison <kerry@io.com> DOM Overlord Geoff Jollye <100414.3246@compuserve.com> IMP Patrol Commissioner Kenneth Reeves <72632.2104@compuserve.com> DOM Coordinator Lars Erik Stokka <larssto@alkymi.unit.no> SSL Active US Players (RTG Version) ---------------------------- Wayne Alexander <71470.344@compuserve.com> EEM Periphery Director Chris Allen <gtt-pd@consensus.com> GTT Periphery Director Russ Boggs <russell_boggs@isisph.com> GTT Brad Braun <btb4@lehigh.edu> USS Transhole Coordinator Phil Breault <philip.breault@com2bbs.com> EEM Director of Transport & Security Stephen Brown <stephen.brown@pwrpalce.com> PFM Terminus Prime Rick Burningham <law2be@aol.com> SMS Colonization/Research Coordinator Chip Charnley <ccharnle@m-net148.arbornet.org> WCE Research Secretary Richard Chiang <richc@ocf.berkeley.edu> QSN Todd Clapp <v176@rex.re.uokhsc.edu> ICN Periphery Director Mike Cofran <cojran@ucsub.colorado.edu> AFT Sergeant at Arms Bill Combs <bill_combs@ccm.jf.intel.com> AFT Dave Cromer <prothorax@aol.com> WSP Kevin Curnutt <76114.3576@compuserve.com> WCE Gene Ferguson <lordzefir@aol.com> EKN Jack Ferguson <jackmyster@aol.com> FGZ Ataman Jim Gagliardi <73377.2042@compuserve.com> EEM Director of Research/Engineering Richard Gurley <regstu@sun.cc.westga.edu> MYR George Hammond <gstarrh@umich.edu> USS Information Coordinator Kerry Harrison <kerry@io.com> IND Alan Hatcher <zu02380@uabdpo.dpo.uab.edu> AFT Research Czar Peter Henry <henry4633@aol.com> QSN Jerry Holmes <74103.375@compuserve.com> WCE Bill Hopkins <bhopkins@teleport.com> WCE Jay Ibbitson <72570.650@compuserve.com> EKN Dave Isaac <76170.2705@compuserve.com> AFT Negotiator John Jeffrey, II <jjeffrey@awod.com> ISS Periphery Director Ron Kleinman <ronk@eng.sun.com> QSN Phil Krauskopf <pkrauskopf@falcon.aamrl.wpafb.af.mil> WCE General Secretary Carl Linquist <73240.2556@compuserve.com> USS Periphery Director Vickie Lloyd <vlloyd@infomail.com> EEM Director of Marketing Chris Makowski <74551.3412@compuserve.com> FGZ Roger Markle <76422.3260@compuserve.com> AFT Paul Mansfield <paulmans@tmn.com> WCE Steve Marte <stephmarte@aol.com> WCE Steve Mathews <steve668@dallas.relay.ucm.org> ISP Periphery Director Charles Meredith <74214.2743@compuserve.com> WCE Charles Middleton <cmiddlet@ssbpost.env.gov.bc.ca> SMS Defense Coordinator Joe Moreno <72073.1602@compuserve.com> AFT Rob Neal <rfn2@aol.com> FET Executive Vice President Bill Peltier <74224.1676@compuserve.com> USS Don Pierce <70511.64@compuserve.com> SAM Grand Vizier Paul Postak <fk490@cleveland.freenet.edu> USS Associate Periphery Director Kenneth Reeves <72632.2104@compuserve.com> IND Vernon Rothrock <dougmr@aol.com> ROC Assistant Periphery Director Shannon Rundquist <75477.1627@compuserve.com> MYR Speaker Joe Sanchez <71001.426@compuserve.com> WCE Paul Schneider <pauls@realm.net> WCE Derek Smith <derek_smith.lotus@crd.lotus.com> SMS Information Coordinator Richard Smith <74023.574@compuserve.com> MYR John Stanton <jjs@netcom.com> SMS Transhole Coordinator Jeff Stout <jeffstout@aol.com> ZCS Grey Prince Patrick Tyrrell <tyrrell@netcom.com> ICN Doug Wampler <wamp@thunder.indstate.edu> SMS Company Coordinator Wade Wheaton <marilith1@aol.com> FOE Eric Ziemer <ziemer@mcs.net> QSN Inactive Players (either version) ------------------------------- Anders Beitness <alb@cwa.com> ex-AFT Dean Alan Deal <70473.2114@compuserve.com> ex-SSL Dennis Forcier <73047.1521@compuserve.com> ex-USS Mark Hughes <mhughes@pms144.pms.ford.com> ex-SSL Walt Pesch <walt@solgrp.chi.il.us> ex-QSN Mark Weiher <msweiher@aol.com> ex-EKN GMs (either version) -------------------- Thad Catone <rtgthad@aol.com> RTG Kevin Cropper <100412.2424@compuserve.com> KJC Pete Dorman <rtgames@aol.com> RTG Steven Fairbrother <100255.130@compuserve.com> KJC Others ------ Thomas Hudson <hudson@cs.unc.edu> Allen Hunter <dragon_star@delphi.com> Hafizi Ibrahim <iih4@aber.ac.uk> Lorinc Istvan <e214@sc.bme.hu> Erik Ker <eker@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Mark Ladley <mladley@aol.com> Chris Maikisch <cmaikisch@aol.com> Timothy Park <a127@atuvm.atu.edu> Adam Parker <admparker@aol.com> Richard Persky <sceptrerp@aol.com> John Pyrich <pyrich@cris.com> Simon Reed <simon@itd.tv.bbc.co.uk> Mike Rosko <rhyssa@aol.com> William Senke <wsenke@sonalysts.com> Hendrik Siegeln <100437.3137@compuserve.com> Rich Skrenta <bse@pbm.com> Ben Swain <csc2bds@cabell.vcu.edu> ------------------------------ Date: 31 Jan 95 18:34:05 EST From: annoyed <100115.1035@compuserve.com> To: <BSE-L@consensus.com> Subject: Re: BSE-L digest 10 Message-ID: <950131233404_100115.1035_BHA43-2@CompuServe.COM> I've sent in an unsubscribe command on 3 separate occasions now. Each time I've received an acknowledgement and I'm still getting this rubbish. Are you blind or just damned stupid ? How many more times have I got to 'say it. UNSUBSCRIBE, UNSUBSCRIBE, UNSUBSCRIBE, UNSUBSCRIBE. Any more of this crap and your major colony world loses its atmosphere. Alan Crump ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 19:09:24 -0500 From: Henry4633@aol.com To: BSE-L@consensus.com Subject: Re: Stellar Maps Message-ID: <950131190728_9435336@aol.com> I sorry if i was babble on the list.think I made my point to GTT PD. I didn't know about the law of not babble on the list! By the way Governor need to tell how imp jail was and how much the bail was to get you out.Again I am sorry for babble.. Vice Admiral Asakura Tosshikage ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 16:14:14 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Chiang <richc@ocf.Berkeley.EDU> To: BSE-L@consensus.com Subject: Re: Stellar Maps Message-ID: <Pine.APO.3.91.950131161332.11677A-100000@tempest.berkeley.edu> Chip, I am not sure what Peter was refering to. I assume it was a coded transmission and we were not meant to understand. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 19:38:28 -0500 From: fk490@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul D. Postak) To: BSE-L@consensus.com Subject: Re: Stellar Maps Message-ID: <199502010038.TAA11547@eeyore.INS.CWRU.Edu> > >I sorry if i was babble on the list.think I made my point to GTT PD. > I didn't know about the law of not babble on the list! > By the way Governor need to tell how imp jail was and how > much the bail was to get you out.Again I am sorry for babble.. > > Has anyone told Hagbard Celine about this No Babble law? e7j aka pdp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 95 21:35 WET From: ccharnle@m-net148.arbornet.org (Chip Charnley) To: BSE-L@consensus.com Subject: Re: Quman Recruitment Message-ID: <m0rZUur-000hbHC@m-net148.arbornet.org> > It's STILL Barbara SIMONSEN, not Ziemer, although we have gone through >a civil (but not yet a religious) ceremony. Anybody addressing her by my >last name is likely to regret it! > > >Eric R. Ziemer | Opinions expressed should not be attributed >ziemer@tmn.com or | to any other person or organization. >ziemer@mcs.com | Some days I don't even claim them myself! >Chicago, IL | "IT'S ALL DONE WITH SMOKE AND MIRRORS!" > > > So are you both planning to be at GENCON next August and can we expect to see a new round of filk at that time? :-) Jame Retief aka Chip Charnley ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 23:15:22 -0500 From: Jackmyster@aol.com To: BSE-L@consensus.com Subject: NeverWhere Message-ID: <950131225618_9604576@aol.com> Richard: You would like the exact coordinates to NeverWhere? How about in a week or so I build y'all a Stargate instead? Bests- J. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 00:15:38 -0500 From: StephMarte@aol.com To: BSE-L@consensus.com Subject: Re: BSE-minty pickle sour sauce Message-ID: <950201001024_9654467@aol.com> Rlo, Gawd man, how many years have you been a Lt.?? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 00:30:08 -0500 From: StephMarte@aol.com To: BSE-L@consensus.com Subject: Re: BSE-minty pickle sour sauce Message-ID: <950201000901_9656660@aol.com> Rlo, I appreciate the offer for your new 'minty pickle sour sauce' but i must respectifully decline. At the moment i don't have an ulcer, and i want to keep it that way. Regards, Arthur ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 00:00:57 CST From: steve668@dallas.relay.ucm.org To: BSE-L@consensus.com Subject: Stellar Maps Message-ID: <9502010012.S20465078@dallas.relay.ucm.org> Chip, I take it Ray is WCE. Could you email me his address/ph#/ For my records S. Mathews ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 23:59:38 CST From: steve668@dallas.relay.ucm.org To: BSE-L@consensus.com Subject: The new rules - the stinkin' starcaptain thing Message-ID: <9502010012.S20461084@dallas.relay.ucm.org> Brad, Which "Steve", there are 2 of us here now: Steve Marte & myself. Steve Mathews ---------------- blame any confusion on my Internet relay which can sometimes leave me kinda blind concerning messages. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 23:50:49 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Chiang <richc@ocf.Berkeley.EDU> To: BSE-L@consensus.com Subject: Re: NeverWhere Message-ID: <Pine.APO.3.91.950131234723.15486A-100000@tempest.berkeley.edu> On Tue, 31 Jan 1995 Jackmyster@aol.com wrote: > Richard: > > You would like the exact coordinates to NeverWhere? How about in a week or so > I build y'all a Stargate instead? > > Bests- > J. > Hmm. That's a fine offer. I accept. But I wouldn't want to mess up your production queque. If it doesn't trouble you, then it would make things a lot easier for us. We could much easier should in those IND ships to harass your shipping and reprogram your outposts. Could you reactivate the stargate in Merolla and maybe make one in the Trapose system too?? Richard ------------------------------ End of BSE-L Digest 11 ********************** Up