ATLANTISv2 atl-players-digest #25

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Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 17:29:18 +0000

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Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 13:00:35 +0500
From: roy@acasun.eckerd.edu (Jonathan Roy)
Subject: TC: UNIT NEW # fixed.

Ok, then command "UNIT NEW #" has been fixed. (ie: This is now illegal.)

If a few people would be willing to write some fake turn sheets, with lots
of differetnt command, and lots of wrong commands, and send it in to see what
happens, I'd apprecaite it. I'm too busy coding to write a lot of imaginaty
test moves/orders...

Thanks.

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Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 13:52:38 -0600 (CST)
From: Al Billings <mimir@io.com>
Subject: Re: Atlantis 2.0

On Mon, 13 Feb 1995, Thanatos wrote:

> I am somewhat concerned that (at least in Atlantis City) leaders will
> lose 5 silver eash turn that they work.  They cost 20 silver to keep
> alive for a turn, but can only gather 15 silver by working.  This would
> seem to produce a situation where a leader would die if he is in a region
> with no surplus (he can not entertain or tax), and has no silver.

Yes, that is on purpose.

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Date: Wed, 15 Feb 95 08:18:59 PST
From: "GDUNBAR.US.ORACLE.COM" <GDUNBAR@us.oracle.com>
Subject: Re: Atlantis 2 : Questions on latest rules

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1) When in the sequence of play do "recruit" and "transfer" orders occur?

Recruit and transfer are not legal orders any more; their BUY
and GIVE equivalents occur at the same time as other BUYs and
GIVEs.

2) Will healers save troops of allied factions or only their own after a
successful battle?

Anyone on their side in the battle.

3) How is the training limit on "followers" implemented? Could I "overtrain"
Orcs to say L5(450) [L4 effective due to limit], sail them overseas, and then
recruit another 50% to "dilute" them back to L4(300)?

No. The orcs will be cut off at 300.

Geoff

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Received: 14 Feb 1995 16:12:24                    Sent: 14 Feb 1995 16:10:40
From:"owner-atl-players@tango.rahul.net" <owner-atl-players@tango.rahul.net>
To: @players
Subject: Atlantis 2 : Questions on latest rules
Cc: LARSON@ecoult.ncsu.edu
Reply-to: owner-atl-players@tango.rahul.net

Dear Geoff,
	A few questions on the latest rules:

1) When in the sequence of play do "recruit" and "transfer" orders occur?

2) Will healers save troops of allied factions or only their own after a
successful battle?

The Incinerator (formerly unit 304)
	The Fryer's Guild (formerly Faction 76)

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Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 12:50:05 +0500
From: roy@acasun.eckerd.edu (Jonathan Roy)
Subject: Re: Atlantis 2 : Questions on latest rules

When you are in a battle and lose men, will your healers heal your
own men first, then the allies, or will they heal all the parties involved
equally?

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Date: Wed, 15 Feb 95 10:06:18 PST
From: "GDUNBAR.US.ORACLE.COM" <GDUNBAR@us.oracle.com>
Subject: Re: Atlantis 2 : Questions on latest rules

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]When you are in a battle and lose men, will your healers heal your
]own men first, then the allies, or will they heal all the parties involved
]equally?

All parties equally.

Geoff

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Received: 15 Feb 1995 09:56:13                    Sent: 15 Feb 1995 09:55:06
From:"Jonathan Roy" <roy@acasun.eckerd.edu>
To: GDUNBAR@us.oracle.com,atl-players@tango.rahul.net
Subject: Re: Atlantis 2 : Questions on latest rules
Reply-to: roy@acasun.eckerd.edu
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When you are in a battle and lose men, will your healers heal your
own men first, then the allies, or will they heal all the parties involved
equally?

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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 95 22:45:02 PST
From: ggrinton@werple.mira.net.au (Geoff Grinton)
Subject: Atlantis: Q about Move and Enter

I'm just wondering what the difference between the commands
	MOVE <structure number>
and
	ENTER <object>
is. Do you use MOVE when you're going into a building, and enter when you're
going into a ship (for example)?

Thanks for any ideas.
Geoff Grinton              ggrinton@werple.mira.net.au

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From: "Marcus Franke" <marcus.franke@stud.uni-bamberg.de>
Date:          Thu, 16 Feb 1995 13:03:58 GMT+0100
Subject:

HELP
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 15:08:09 +0100
From: Olivier Poret <poret@wicx01.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
Subject: Atlantis : Just a remark about studying costs

I think that the studying costs should be share as the maintenance cost.
I mean that if a unit does not have enough silver to study , the silver
could be picked up in a unit who have.

Tristam.
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 95 07:51:19 PST
From: "GDUNBAR.US.ORACLE.COM" <GDUNBAR@us.oracle.com>
Subject: Re: Atlantis: Q about Move and Enter

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]I'm just wondering what the difference between the commands
]	MOVE <structure number>
]and
]	ENTER <object>
]is. Do you use MOVE when you're going into a building, and enter when you're
]going into a ship (for example)?

The two orders have the same effect. However, MOVE is a month
long order, whereas ENTER is not. So, if you want to enter a
building and study something in the same month, you can use
ENTER:

UNIT x
; Enter building 3, and study combat
ENTER 3
STUDY combat

However, if you want to move into a building as part
of a sequence of moves (for example, if you want to move through
a structure with an inner passage), you can use the MOVE order:

UNIT y
; Move north, enter building 3, and move through building 3
MOVE NORTH 3 IN

Geoff

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Received: 16 Feb 1995 03:53:26                    Sent: 16 Feb 1995 03:53:19
From:"Geoff Grinton" <owner-atl-players@tango.rahul.net>
To: atl-players@tango.rahul.net
Subject: Atlantis: Q about Move and Enter
Reply-to: ggrinton@werple.mira.net.au

Thanks for any ideas.
Geoff Grinton              ggrinton@werple.mira.net.au

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From: "Smith, Philip             [MV]" <PSmith@po7.mv.unisys.com>
Subject: RE: Atlantis : Just a remark about studying costs
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:23:00 PST

> I think that the studying costs should be share as the maintenance cost.
> I mean that if a unit does not have enough silver to study , the silver
> could be picked up in a unit who have.

Sharing maintenance costs is necessary for moving units who are fed at the
destination. The GIVE order is processed before the MOVE. Any unit studying
did not move and could receive the money with a GIVE order. Also, I would
consider it important to not starve, but not as important to not study
(charity to prevent death, but if you can't afford school, you're not
going....).

-- The Cold Warriors (Faction 145)
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From: cgg@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Christopher Geoffrey GRINTON)
Subject: Atlantis : Teaching question
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 09:38:49 +1100 (EDT)

I have a question about teaching: say I have unit A that has done 1 month's
study in shoemaking. If this unit then teaches unit B that skill, does unit
B get 2 months worth of study, even though unit A has only done 1 month study?

Thanks,
Chris						cgg@mundil.cs.mu.oz.au
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From: "Matthew S. Taylor" <matthew@clark.net>
Subject: Re: Atlantis : Teaching question
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 22:39:26 -0500 (EST)

Christopher Geoffrey GRINTON writes:
>
> I have a question about teaching: say I have unit A that has done 1 month's
> study in shoemaking. If this unit then teaches unit B that skill, does unit
> B get 2 months worth of study, even though unit A has only done 1 month study?
>
> Thanks,
> Chris						cgg@mundil.cs.mu.oz.au
>
Yes, that is how it works.  A teaching unit gives an extra 300 days worth
of skill up to a maximum of 30 per individual studying, and the units own
studies give it 30 days.  Thus a teacher with shoemaking 1 teaching 10 new
recruits [elves, one presumes :)] results in Teacher with level 1 [30] and
students at level 1 [60].

--
Matthew Taylor

matthew@clark.net

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From: adrian@per.dms.csiro.au
Subject: ATLANTIS 2 - teaching
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 13:26:53 +0800 (WST)

re: Teaching.

Can normal units teach, or just leaders?
Do leaders have any advantage in teaching/studying?

Mutants, Faction 44
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Adrian Smith
adrian@per.dms.csiro.au
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From: "J.P. Harvey" <u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: help
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 12:30:27 +0000 (GMT)

"Marcus Franke" wrote :-

> HELP
>

The Assassins guild strikes again!

(Just joking of course!)

(Seriously, I'm joking!)

(Whadddaya mean you don't believe me - would I lie to you?!?)

Viper.
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Date: Fri, 17 Feb 95 10:35:38 -0500
From: jobollin@iumsc4.chem.indiana.edu (John Bollinger)
Subject: Re: ATLANTIS 2 - teaching

> Can normal units teach, or just leaders?

Check the rules.  Only leaders can teach.

> Do leaders have any advantage in teaching/studying?

No.

John Bollinger
Melvin's Marauders
Faction 105