BSE-L Digest 45 From: kerry@freeside.fc.net (Kerry Harrison) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 1995 03:37:21 +0000 Beyond the Stellar Empire Discussion List <BSE-L@consensus.com> BSE-L Digest 45 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) BSE-L digest 43 by Jay Ibbitson <72570.650@compuserve.com> 2) hi all by Richard William Chiang <richc@uclink2.berkeley.edu> 3) SMS Stargate by Jackmyster@aol.com 4) Re: Address to the Greater Periphery by Kerry Harrison <kerry@io.com> 5) Re: Address to the Greater Periphery by Richard William Chiang <richc@uclink2.berkeley.edu> 6) Re: Address to the Greater Periphery by btb4@Lehigh.EDU (B T Braun) 7) Re: BSE & Changes, A Cadet's Perspective by btb4@Lehigh.EDU (B T Braun) 8) Luxury Liners by "JASON GOFF" <JGOF4P1@S1.csc.peachnet.edu> 9) WCE Statement by "JASON GOFF" <JGOF4P1@S1.csc.peachnet.edu> 10) Confused Cadet by "JASON GOFF" <JGOF4P1@S1.csc.peachnet.edu> 11) Official SSL press release by "JASON GOFF" <JGOF4P1@S1.csc.peachnet.edu> 12) Re: hi all by PROTHORAX@aol.com 13) Re: Address to the Greater Periphery by rboggs@isisph.com (Russ Boggs) 14) Re: Address to the Greater Periphery by Richard William Chiang <richc@uclink2.berkeley.edu> 15) Re: Address to the Greater Periphery -QSN Response by PKRAUSKOPF@FALCON.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL 16) Re: Address to the Greater Pe... by HarryFlash@aol.com 17) Re: Luxury Liners by HarryFlash@aol.com 18) WCE statements by "JASON GOFF" <JGOF4P1@S1.csc.peachnet.edu> 19) Werth Trials by StephMarte@aol.com 20) Re: Address to the Greater Pe... by StephMarte@aol.com 21) Re: Werth Trials by HarryFlash@aol.com 22) EEM ANNNOUNCEMENT by Wayne Alexander <71470.344@compuserve.com> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 07 Mar 95 06:38:18 EST From: Jay Ibbitson <72570.650@compuserve.com> To: "INTERNET:BSE-L@consensus.com" <BSE-L@consensus.com> Subject: BSE-L digest 43 Message-ID: <950307113818_72570.650_FHG22-1@CompuServe.COM> The EKN information concerning our ship configuration is not correct. (FYI) For the Ekinos, Zirr-Kum ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 06:44:27 -0800 (PST) From: Richard William Chiang <richc@uclink2.berkeley.edu> To: bse-digest <bse-l@consensus.com> Subject: hi all Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9503070634.A19592-0100000@uclink2.berkeley.edu> dear all, sorry that i have been out of touch. i have recently taken a break/vacation to that ski heaven called squaw valley. gone three days or so and 150+ messages. ack. please excuse any late postings that may write about. but at least the game is heating up a bit. and i hope all of you are having fun. about this derek smith situation: i do not really understand why all of you are so pissed at derek. i have heard some of this stuff, but do not presume to know it all. let me say a few things. derek is nothing if he isn't "enthusatic" about his game play. he can be outspoken and i understand it can be overwhelming at times. in fact, a couple of weeks ago i was the target of such "enthusism." i found it disturbing also. but i do believe the guy means well and has a place in this game and on this list. i genuinely like the guy. i do not know all the disputes there are. i do know fo the non-bse related postings made him the target of some abuse which he took a little to heart. he believed (with some good reason) that the posts he made would be of concern to all internet users and especially on our type of posts. some people obviously felt different. flaming is a part of and appropiate to the internet. i personally like things a bit more civil in a "game," but diversity is what makes the internet strong. i do not think derek needs to be censored from the bse list if he agrees not to post non-bse related materials as required by the list owners (who of course have rights too). as for you guys individually, do not deal with him if you do not want to. that is your right. i tolerated some heated discussion with him because i genuinely think he means well. you do not have to do the same, i just ask that we leave this all behind and let the guy back on to the list. if you don't like the nature of his posts, kill his messages. as long as he keeps following the rules of the list, he should be allowed on. i do not agree with any type of censoring that way. once again, i hope things are going well. richard ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 09:52:30 -0500 From: Jackmyster@aol.com To: BSE-L@consensus.com Subject: SMS Stargate Message-ID: <950307095228_41812882@aol.com> Greetings All: I have watched to see how the WCE/FGZ attack against the SMS stargate would be recieved by "others". I believe everyone is missing one small point: The Porkamo System is WCE space: It is the FGZ's position that anyone in "our" space that is not "chartered" by the FGZ are "guests". If at any time, a position of a "guests" becomes a liabilty to the "host government" then it is at that government's descrition to deal with the "guest's position" anyway it feels is needed. This may be received as a "hard line"...but in a war type senerio preservation is tantamount to everything else. The FGZ are sadden to see the loss of non-QSN life in this battle. But the Cutter was at the Stargate to "engage" in battle...unfortunatly, the battle was joined, and he lost. (He brought a knife to a gun fight...) We will hold the AFT harmless in this matter, as they did not know they would be engaging FGZ ships. The FGZ will make reperations to the SMS for the destruction of their stargate, as we will also hold the SMS harmless in this matter. The TH is not "closed" to everyone else. AFFs may still traverse the BH and come to Porkamo to get jump engines and whatnot...our (WCE/FGZ) intentions were to simply "slow" the QSN down. That goal has been accomplished. Much Honor: Lord Den of Earth ooc- Guys: This is not to open debate again. The FGZ's statement is just that, a statement...it is our position on what took place. If you wish to "debate" me, please do so via e-mail. Bests- J. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 09:05:42 -0600 (CST) From: Kerry Harrison <kerry@io.com> To: BSE-L@consensus.com Subject: Re: Address to the Greater Periphery Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9503070942.A9591-0100000@pentagon.io.com> On Mon, 6 Mar 1995, Cojran Michael wrote: > of your ability, but to disable a stargate that will POTENTIALLY be used > by a hostile QSN force forseeably entering your airspace......a stargate > controlled by another company....can you not see how this would raise > hostilities? I may be missing something, but has there been any serious Y'all company types just don't get it, y'all don't have any rights in the territory of a sovereign state other then the rights that state grants. If the state wishes it may take away those rights at any time. Kerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 07:36:27 -0800 (PST) From: Richard William Chiang <richc@uclink2.berkeley.edu> To: BSE-L@consensus.com Subject: Re: Address to the Greater Periphery Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9503070652.B19592-0100000@uclink2.berkeley.edu> horst treyder, the qsn high command was disappointed in the lack of sensitivity the wce showed in this entire affair. if the wce was concerned about the qsn actions in the th, you should have asked. if you were concened about our use of the sms stargate, then you should have requested us not to use it. we respect the wce and except some of that respect in advance. i have had dealings with and cordial relations with several of your members of your affliation. i feel some sort of breach of trust was created. the fact that you participated with known hostilies of the qsn only pours salt on these wounds. the fgz contributed 2 war galleys which provided little actual aid in the battle. but the political implications were bigger. does the wce not consider itself a sovereign nation? if it does, why does it need the help of another sovereign nation to enforce policy in its territory? it can only bring up the question of alliance. as the wce is the proactive member of this situation, i would ask them to correct any misunderstandings that arise from this entire affair. to do less would to admit weakness and just wouldn't be right. or is the wce leadership playing some type of political game. below are some questions and comments we have concerning your announcement. On Mon, 6 Mar 1995 PKRAUSKOPF@FALCON.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL wrote: > However, we've all seen this situation worsen over > these past few weeks into something grotesquely out > of proportion with the seriousness of any offense > perceived by either side. The QSN have been trying > to put together a major warfleet consisting of 50+ > ships (or more, of they could get them). The PFM, too, > have been talking about large invasion fleets, and > about genocide with regards to the Flagritz. instead of listening to innuendo and rumors, i would suggest going to the primary parties involved. it is more productive and more respectful. i would point out that since joint actions have been taken with the fgz that you have been listening to their "truth," and it is unlikely to be the full story. > Enter: the SMS stargate. There's not a government > in the Greater Periphery that would allow two warfleets > of this magnitude to transit their territory, especially if > these warfleets were perceived as potential > aggressors against the government's own > possessions. The WCE is no different. If these fleets > are going to enter the Transhole, WCE best interest > demands that they not do so through WCE space. the qsn received no demand to that effect. try diplomacy before firing as it will save you resources in the long run which the wce could use. also, we have not violated any such need the wce has. we understand that relations between the wce and qsn are not at a high right now, but you need to trust a little before you can go farther. we respect and are sensitive to wce concerns. we ask for the same. > > WCE-FGZ ALLIANCE: > The WCE War Secretary mis-spoke when he called > the FGZ our allies. There is no formal alliance, nor is > there any verbal "understanding" of any type of > mutual defense. The FGZ had their own, rather > obvious, reasons for wanting the stargate destroyed. > The WCE reasons are those I have just stated. > However, because the attainment of our own goals > involved the same military target, it was decided to > pool our resources for this particular action. it is weakness of the wce part to allow another government to assume military responsibility on ones own soil. especially when the military aid was so minimal. > > COINCIDENT DAMAGE: > The fleet did not attack ANY ships; it attacked only > the stargate. The ONLY affiliation that had even a > quasi-justifiable reason for defending it was the SMS. > Neither the QSN nor the AFT are, in the eyes of the > WCE, justified in protecting something that isn't even > remotely theirs. Therefore, while the WCE regrets any we were asked by sms officials to help defend the porkamo stargate as recent raids against stargates were common. i am sorry to see that the wce is a shoot first ask questions later kind of afffliation. we were aware of demands made by the fgz on the sms to close down the porkamo stargate. funny how the wce are allowing the fgz to dictate policy within wce space. we did not know that the wce were concerned. it was not relayed to us by any party. we believe that the wce should take some responsibility for this situation, if for nothing else but for peace sake. on a more detailed level, i would recommend that the wce start more discussion with the qsn to prevent further misunderstandngs. please communicate to me personally any assurances you can make. minister anton qutroh qsn minister of propaganda ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 1995 11:18:15 EST From: btb4@Lehigh.EDU (B T Braun) To: BSE-L@consensus.com Subject: Re: Address to the Greater Periphery Message-ID: <199503071618.LAA82904@ns1.CC.Lehigh.EDU> To: Zed Thunder, AFT From: H. Celine, USS ...message repeats...WZZZZZZM...We are Celine...EEEEEEEA...government not "another affiliation"...LUUUUUUUR...horrible die nachos...OYYYYYYYYK... Treyder clan must put new oath first...VTTTTTTTE...whipped all yolks... ECCCCCCT...coordinated military action DOES imply some alliance...SDDDDDDR... Ragnarok Trucker Academy...HGFGFGFGFA...reasonable defensive action...ERRRRRRI ...cheese weinie roast...EQQQQQQQD...unexplained AFT actions...PFFFFFFFFE... pond scum removal...RRRRRRRRR...message repeats.... Be seeing you, Brad Braun btb4@lehigh.edu ///////////////////*********************************************\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Brad's Sig. File Here >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 1995 11:21:13 EST From: btb4@Lehigh.EDU (B T Braun) To: BSE-L@consensus.com Subject: Re: BSE & Changes, A Cadet's Perspective Message-ID: <199503071621.LAA182219@ns1.CC.Lehigh.EDU> Erik, OOC = "out of character" This is used to distinguish between "in-game" character communications and those between the individuals playing the game. Be seeing you, Brad Braun btb4@lehigh.edu ///////////////////*********************************************\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Brad's Sig. File Here >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 11:41:39 EST From: "JASON GOFF" <JGOF4P1@S1.csc.peachnet.edu> To: bse-l@consensus.com Subject: Luxury Liners Message-ID: <MAILQUEUE-101.950307114139.384@S1.csc.peachnet.edu> It seems no one knows what an entertainment module is, or the SSL Roadshow. Entertainment modules are built by the SSL to load onto ships. Ships loaded with entertainment modules can boost colony morale by doing a Roadshow. You know, comics, jugglers, juggling comics, gladiator style arenas where wild animals eat the juggling comics who aren't funny and even exotic dancers (Adults Only). Call the nearest SSL governor for details, prices and availability. Don Guido The GodfatherJason Goff 11 Avalon way Riverdale, GA 30274 404-478-0945 JGOF4P1@S1.CSC.PEACHNET.EDU ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 11:56:05 EST From: "JASON GOFF" <JGOF4P1@S1.csc.peachnet.edu> To: bse-l@consensus.com Subject: WCE Statement Message-ID: <MAILQUEUE-101.950307115605.416@S1.csc.peachnet.edu> The WCE has stated that the AFT had no business defending property that is not theirs in this little matter of the SMS Stargate. WRONG!!! Will any company with any honor at all stand by while foreigners attack another companys property? I WILL NOT!!! Captain Areus (did I spell that right? My secretary's on vacation) acted with honor worthy of a member of the Family. We salute him! P.S. The SSL considers any attack on SSL property an act of War against the Family. The Capellan Stargate is SSL property. 'Nuff said? The SSL also does not like the idea of anyone attacking another chartered company in the periphery. Don Guido The GodfatherJason Goff 11 Avalon way Riverdale, GA 30274 404-478-0945 JGOF4P1@S1.CSC.PEACHNET.EDU ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 12:05:40 EST From: "JASON GOFF" <JGOF4P1@S1.csc.peachnet.edu> To: bse-l@consensus.com Subject: Confused Cadet Message-ID: <MAILQUEUE-101.950307120540.480@S1.csc.peachnet.edu> (Out Of Character means I'm not speaking as Don Guido right now. Which is a releif. Man that guy is bloodthirsty! Do you know what he did? He took this guys'-wait a minute-here he comes!) (P.S.-did you get my message? I need your snail mail address for RTG) (P.P.S.-Yes, I feel fine, why?) Jason Jason Goff 11 Avalon way Riverdale, GA 30274 404-478-0945 JGOF4P1@S1.CSC.PEACHNET.EDU ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 12:23:33 EST From: "JASON GOFF" <JGOF4P1@S1.csc.peachnet.edu> To: bse-l@consensus.com Subject: Official SSL press release Message-ID: <MAILQUEUE-101.950307122333.480@S1.csc.peachnet.edu> DON GUIDO HAS RETURNED!! Yes, that's right! Super fun person and all around nice guy Don Guido Alfonso has returned to the periphery to take over once again as Godfather of Solar Spices and Liqours. Welcome back, Don Guido! Don Guido has asked us to clear up a few nasty,untrue rumors that have been circulating lately. First, Don Guido was not given his position back by the grateful leaders of SSL Earth HQ for assasinating any overly ambitious junior SSL members. Nor is it true that Don Guido killed any junior SSL members, they died of natural causes and anyway they are not officialy dead, just missing, they were not recently found floating in any rivers and no one killed any witnesses because there were not any witnesses because it never happened! We promise. Official SSL News-You can trust us! Jason Goff 11 Avalon way Riverdale, GA 30274 404-478-0945 JGOF4P1@S1.CSC.PEACHNET.EDU ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 13:57:16 -0500 From: PROTHORAX@aol.com To: BSE-L@consensus.com Subject: Re: hi all Message-ID: <950307135715_42087906@aol.com> (ooc) I agree, the punishment has been payed and now lets go forward leaving this issue in the dust. later david ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 11:33:34 -0800 From: rboggs@isisph.com (Russ Boggs) To: BSE-L@consensus.com Subject: Re: Address to the Greater Periphery Message-ID: <v0151010aab82523319f6@[192.65.129.70]> I don't think that the chartered companies of the Periphery will ever understand what the term >Transhole< really means. It means operating as a human government far from the protective reach of the Emperor and his space forces. The WCE has no central home colony sharing a system with the ISP. The WCE has no place to retreat if they suffer military defeat in the Transhole. Whatever assets are in place out there are irreplaceable and need to be protected at all costs. To do otherwise would be disrespectful to the memory of the lives spent establishing a human presence in the region. As General Secretary of the WCE, it is essential that anyone holding that office anticipate and mitigate any threat to the WCE in the Transhole. Horst Treydor was only doing his job. As a former General Secretary, I applaud his actions, but regret that it claimed innocent victims. For better or for worse, the Transhole is NOT the Periphery, and the policies of the WCE are motivated by different concerns than the Board of Directors of the AFT or SMS. As far as the QSN Minister of Propaganda's recent statement is concerned, I think he misses a point. Was the QSN about to send a war fleet through WCE sovereign space? Why had they not already contacted the WCE to begin to negotiate permission? Why did they seem to expect the WCE to contact the QSN? The QSN had recently seen fit to declare Drell off limits to all outsiders, including neutrals such as the WCE, claiming it was Quman sovereign space. But at the same time, they appear to have ignored the WCE rights in the Transhole region. Why? --MacBeth (still in retirement) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 13:05:10 -0800 (PST) From: Richard William Chiang <richc@uclink2.berkeley.edu> To: BSE-L@consensus.com Subject: Re: Address to the Greater Periphery Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9503071226.A5828-0100000@uclink2.berkeley.edu> On Tue, 7 Mar 1995, Russ Boggs wrote: > > As far as the QSN Minister of Propaganda's recent statement is > concerned, I think he misses a point. Was the QSN about to send a war > fleet through WCE sovereign space? Why had they not already contacted the > WCE to begin to negotiate permission? Why did they seem to expect the WCE > to contact the QSN? The QSN had recently seen fit to declare Drell off > limits to all outsiders, including neutrals such as the WCE, claiming it > was Quman sovereign space. But at the same time, they appear to have > ignored the WCE rights in the Transhole region. Why? > we were not about to send a warfleet through wce space. when we would have, we would have contacted the wce. in fact, we talked to the wce initially when this beef with the fgz started and asked for their thoughts on the matter. we tried to act is a respectful manner. i expect the wce to contact the qsn out of courtesy and respect. our ship has been stationed at that stargate for an extended period through mutual agreement with the sms. we did not want to get involved with the wce task force. we were given no chance to move or explain our thoughts on the matter. it is not required of the wce, but i believe it is wise to do so in the future. we did not declare the drell system offlimits to neutral parties. we asked that armed ships were subject to firing unless we were notified. if an armed wce ship was spotted in drell, we would enquire as to its disposition and purpose being there. it is wrong for us to expect that receive the same courtesy? the wce is in a strange and precarious position. we respect and understand that. but we think that it is no excuse for rash actions that could adversely affect things, especially relations between 3 affliations. minister anton qutroh qsn minister of propaganda ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 1995 16:47:05 -0400 From: PKRAUSKOPF@FALCON.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL To: bse-l@consensus.com Subject: Re: Address to the Greater Periphery -QSN Response Message-ID: <sf5c8e47.031@FALCON.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL> >>instead of listening to innuendo and rumors, i would suggest going to the primary parties involved. I did indeed listen to your "truth." Your truth was that the 50-60 ships headed into the Transhole were intended as a "punitive" action, only. To the WCE, this seems far in excess of any rational punitive action. Your truth was that you intended to claim several additional Transhole systems. You tried to "bribe" me by offering the WCE the Merolla system. As I said earlier, there is no government in the Greater Periphery that would allow a military fleet this size to move through its sovereignty. And in the mind of the WCE, giving advance warning of the action last week would merely have given the QSN and the PFM opportunity to move therough the stargate before it was deactiviated. The FGZ asked permission, long ago, to disable the stargate. However, because we were still trying to deal with the issue diplomatically, that permission was denied. The FGZ abided by that ruling. >>the qsn received no demand to that effect (re- major warfleets in WCE space). It should be understood that NO ONE wants war fleets of 50-60 ships cruising around in their territory. >>we did not know that the wce were concerned. it was not relayed to us by any party. WCE concern was relayed from me to you, directly. >>wce start more discussion with the qsn to prevent further misunderstandngs. I will state for you, and other interested parties: The WCE does not want major warfleets running around in its space. Period. The WCE recognizes and respects the sovereignty of the other two transhole governments, and will do nothing to violate their sovereignty, even should they choose to allow QSN warfleets to transit their systems. I should also point out something about my diplomatic style. I do not make threats, I do not bandy words, when dealing with these kinds of situations. However, when I feel that diplomacy no longer holds any promise of success, then I will act. The SMS seemed unwilling to respect WCE sovereignty and interests; and diplomacy seemed dead. The QSN seemed determined to send in a major warfleet (that stargate was the logical choice, as far as distance was concerned) for "punitive" actions. My job as General Secretary requires me to protect WCE interests. Secretary Treyder ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 17:04:25 -0500 From: HarryFlash@aol.com To: BSE-L@consensus.com Subject: Re: Address to the Greater Pe... Message-ID: <950307170425_42261168@aol.com> I agree with Kerry! The WCE has a right to police its own space. The same as the bloody &@#%^#^^^# IMPs have around and on Hile (GRRRRRR.....), exclusive of Werth and its lovely spaceport.. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 17:13:35 -0500 From: HarryFlash@aol.com To: BSE-L@consensus.com Subject: Re: Luxury Liners Message-ID: <950307171155_42268967@aol.com> Dear Don Guido, I'm very interested in having a "roadshow" come to IND Werth to entertain and amuse my citizens. Please e-mail me your price policy. Hopefully, we can arrange a tour. Regards, Harry Flashman Lord Protector of IND Werth P.S. - I hope you have that very funny comedian who does that wonderful impersonation of PD Von Ludendorf in drag. The "Pink Tutu Imperial" is a surefire laugh-getter here on Werth! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 18:31:53 EST From: "JASON GOFF" <JGOF4P1@S1.csc.peachnet.edu> To: bse-l@consensus.com Subject: WCE statements Message-ID: <MAILQUEUE-101.950307183153.256@S1.csc.peachnet.edu> So the WCE is worried about fleets in their space? Whats the problem? I have to put up with that crap all the time! All that hot air coming out of the Transhole smells pretty fishy to me. Don Guido The GodfatherJason Goff 11 Avalon way Riverdale, GA 30274 404-478-0945 JGOF4P1@S1.CSC.PEACHNET.EDU ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 20:00:57 -0500 From: StephMarte@aol.com To: BSE-L@consensus.com Subject: Werth Trials Message-ID: <950307200054_42461413@aol.com> TO: Dr. Zachary Smith Werth Special Prosecutor Dr. Smith, I was overjoyed to read of your appointment in my brother Forrest's case. Can you provide any news? What I've seen of the Lopez woman's testimony <about her watching Hillary shoot those two starport workers just because they were doing the 'laundry'> seems to indeed prove Hillary is your man. Forrest is an idiot. He's incapable of evil thoughts. He's not that clever. I know this isn't the largest bribe you've ever received Smith, but I want you to know if you should find it in your heart to grant Gumpy amnesty - I know of a small ant farm in ROC territory that needs a govenor with your strong sense of justice. I may be able to put in a good word for you. Regards, A. Curry WCE Second Coming ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 21:09:51 -0500 From: StephMarte@aol.com To: BSE-L@consensus.com Subject: Re: Address to the Greater Pe... Message-ID: <950307210838_42546149@aol.com> In all the fighting here on the board among SMS-WCE-AFT-FGZ-QSN there should be one voice for peace. At least one voice for moderation. In all the bickering about who shot who, there must be one willing to turn the tide away from the horror of war. Does anyone speak for peace? Capt. Greybeard WCE Paranoia ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 21:29:18 -0500 From: HarryFlash@aol.com To: BSE-L@consensus.com Subject: Re: Werth Trials Message-ID: <950307212856_42571734@aol.com> To: Sir Arthur Curry From: Dr. Zachary Smith Dear Sir Arthur, Oh dear, dear, dear. A bribe offer ALREADY. I will have you know, my dear sir, that Harry Flashman appointed me to this task because I have never taken a bribe. Because of his close friendship with you, there must not even be a HINT of a possible conflict of interest concerning Forest. Rest assured that your brother is receiving a fair trial. As any objective observor at the trial can plainly see, that nasty Hillary McCabe woman was the main force of evil at IND Werth during the horrid reign of the Co-Governors. By the way, due to severe overcrowding at the Vic Foster Memorial Prison, I was forced to transfer your brother to a converted cell on the fourth floor of the swank Werth Hilton Luxury Hotel. He sends you the following message: "Hi Arthur. I like Dr. Smith. The lobster is good at this hotel and there are many pretty girls to take care of me. Dr. Smith says pleasure slaves are like a box of chocolates. The good ones are always more expensive." Regards, Dr. Zachary Smith Special Prosecutor Werth War Crimes Tribunal ------------------------------ Date: 07 Mar 95 22:29:09 EST From: Wayne Alexander <71470.344@compuserve.com> To: BSE Digest <BSE-L@consensus.com> Cc: "Phil Breault, EEM DOS/S" <71563.216@compuserve.com>, "Jim Gagliardi, EEM DOE&R" <73377.2042@compuserve.com>, "Vickie Lloyd, EEM DOM" <VLLOYD@infomail.com> Subject: EEM ANNNOUNCEMENT Message-ID: <950308032908_71470.344_EHB262-1@CompuServe.COM> TO: All Interested Parties FM: Lord Stu Krieger, EEM CEO UPGRADES The prices for upgrades has changed at EEM Hypso (4802). Our old prices were *4,000/*2,000/*3,000 for C-M-E hulls. New price is *2,000 per hull regardless of type. SHIPYARD USE FEE All upgrades and new construction from any EEM shipyard will now be charged a flat fee of *100 per hull used as a shipyard use fee *IF* the hulls come from your private hull account and are not purchased from EEM colony hull inventories. This shipyard use fee is included in the price of any hull purchased from the EEM. ------------------------------ End of BSE-L Digest 45 ********************** Up