BSE Digest v195 #118

From: kerry@io.com (Kerry Harrison)

Date: Sun, 26 Mar 1995 05:24:31 +0000

BSE Digest                Saturday, 25 March 1995      Volume 195 : Number 118

In this issue:

+       Re: BSE: database
+       BSE: Terrain Types
+       BSE: Items list
+       Re: BSE: Terrain Types
+       BSE: Crew?
+       BSE: Colonists for sale?
+       BSE: Weapons listing
+       BSE: Korondite coating
+       BSE: Morale items?
+       BSE: Real World
+       Re: BSE: database (BOUNCED MESSAGE)
+       Re: BSE: Drugs, Addiction, Etc
+       BSE: FGZ-QSN War?
+       Re: BSE: More Questions for RTG
+       Re: BSE: Terrain Types
+       Fwd: Re: BSE: Drugs, Addictio...

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From: Kerry Harrison <kerry@io.com>
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 09:16:04 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: BSE: database

On 3 Jan 2000, Vickie Lloyd wrote:

>         I'll do the database this weekend and mail it out to those who send me
> their info.  I would like to update once a month.

Here ya go:

Kerry Harrison
11441 IH-35 North #23104
Austin, TX 78753-2851
Home: 512-837-5553
Work: 512-728-6912
Email: kerry@io.com

various KZK ships & colonies
PD Position: K'zk Kasrith-kazereckii (3420)

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From: Kerry Harrison <kerry@io.com>
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 12:22:30 -0600 (CST)
Subject: BSE: Terrain Types

Anybody came across any other terrain types on the in-turn world maps?

/ Ice, Tundra
o Craters, Broken, Crust
. Sea, Shallows, Molten Rock
* Urban or Special
> Mountains
| Flat, Desert, Grasslands, Plains, Mud, Dust, Cultivated, Sand, Smooth
# Swamp, Forest, Jungle

Kerry

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From: Kevin Curnutt <76114.3576@compuserve.com>
Date: 25 Mar 95 13:31:30 EST
Subject: BSE: Items list

Kerry,

Thanks for the weapons listing and info on the ftp site.
Unfortunately, you have to have one of the CIMs to access their ftp gateway,
which I don't have.  Looks like I'll have to get CIM. <g>

Kevin

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From: chazz@cais.cais.com (Charles Meredith)
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 15:15:16 -0500
Subject: Re: BSE: Terrain Types

>Anybody came across any other terrain types on the in-turn world maps?

>/ Ice, Tundra
>o Craters, Broken, Crust
>. Sea, Shallows, Molten Rock
>* Urban or Special
>> Mountains
>| Flat, Desert, Grasslands, Plains, Mud, Dust, Cultivated, Sand, Smooth
># Swamp, Forest, Jungle

Actually, I was wondering which of the four surface movement rates that
each of these belong to.

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From: Kevin Curnutt <76114.3576@compuserve.com>
Date: 19 Mar 95 16:00:51 EST
Subject: BSE: Crew?

Steve,

Thanks.

Kevin

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From: Kevin Curnutt <76114.3576@compuserve.com>
Date: 19 Mar 95 16:01:04 EST
Subject: BSE: Colonists for sale?

Does anyone know of any colonies selling colonists?

Kevin

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From: Kevin Curnutt <76114.3576@compuserve.com>
Date: 19 Mar 95 16:01:01 EST
Subject: BSE: Weapons listing

Does anyone have a weapons list, listing the various weapons, their
damage and accuracy ratings, and their MUs, that they could post here?
Also, an ASCII items list would be great if anyone has it.

Kevin

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From: Kevin Curnutt <76114.3576@compuserve.com>
Date: 19 Mar 95 16:00:55 EST
Subject: BSE: Korondite coating

Kerry,

>>Korondite coating (not to be confused with using korondite for
cloaking ships) is a special tech owned by 2 or 3 colonies in the game (SSL
Ax, SMS Canton, and one other I think).<<

Thanks.  Indeed I *was* confusing Korondite for cloaking ships with
Korondite coating.

Kevin

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From: Kevin Curnutt <76114.3576@compuserve.com>
Date: 19 Mar 95 16:00:58 EST
Subject: BSE: Morale items?

Does anyone here know what all is covered by the line, "Morale
increase for items given to colonists & special bonuses:" in the morale
section of my colony printout?  I know (at least I'm pretty sure <g>) it
covers luxury goods and consumer goods, but I'm not sure what else.  Does it
cover the morale bonus for Restaurant/Gambling/Recreation complexes?
Anything else?

Kevin

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From: Jackmyster@aol.com
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 1995 17:20:05 -0500
Subject: BSE: Real World

Hey Guys:

I sent this in Thurs. or so, but I think that was back when we were still
having problems with the "List"...anyway, I got laid off from my job, so you
guys forgive me if I don't call you back...Just e-mail me, and I'll be happy
to get it answered....

Sorry for interupting the game...now back to your usual enjoyment...<g>

Bests-
J.
ic-
To: All
From: Den of Earth

The FGZ have recently been "given" some information which may change our
current plans with the QSN...this does not mean that we will not be taking
action against the QSN, but instead that we may not do it in Drell...Either
way, it is advisable that the those not wishing to be fired on should avoid
Drell for now....

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From: Kerry Harrison <kerry@io.com>
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 16:33:32 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: BSE: database (BOUNCED MESSAGE)

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: PROTHORAX@aol.com
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 15:53:58 -0500
Subject: Re: BSE: database

(ooc) a data base of colonies would help trade.
                                        later david

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From: PEllisCaz@aol.com
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 19:45:37 -0500
Subject: Re: BSE: Drugs, Addiction, Etc

My theory on this is that colonists are aways getting drugs though their own
distribution network.  For example,(starts talking twice as fast) what would
the bars in the Rec Complexes do when the govenor stoped giving grassjuice or
stembrew, go out of business.  To be realistic they would find other sorces
or brew there own.  When the colony govenor gives drugs or any other item to
the colonist they are just making that item easier and cheaper to get.  It
seems very unrealistic to me that if consumer goods are not givin to
colonists that hundreds or thousands of families don't have tables, chairs,
beds, or other basic nessesities of a household.

To put it simply, when a colony govrenor stops giving a item to the colonists
the private sector see's the potential for profit and takes over making and
selling that item.  The reason the colonist moral does not increase is that to
 buy these items from the private sector they have to pay three to five times
what it would cost them if the govrenor was giving it to them.

Capt. Darkwind Ret.

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From: PEllisCaz@aol.com
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 20:05:43 -0500
Subject: BSE: FGZ-QSN War?

A recent rumor states something to the nature of the FGZ joining forces with
three other AFF.  Is this another example of the FGZ tactic of let them fight
it for us.  Awaiting a repley from any FGZ personal who would deny this rumor
of UNHONORABLE Tactics.

Capt. Darkwind Ret.

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From: rboggs@isisph.com (Russ Boggs)
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 18:42:39 -0800
Subject: Re: BSE: More Questions for RTG

>Concerning morale:
>I do not think robotic ground combat items should be affected by morale -
>robotic items are not affected in space combat.

I'd argue that the >>morale<< of robotic units on the ground reflects the
amount of maintenance and care that goes into them.  Continued survival on
a starship depends on maintenance, so crews always maintain things well,
even if they can't stand the captain.

>I also think troops and
>colonists should have separate morale, affecting combat and production
>respectively - and make it reasonable to bring the morale of both to high
>levels.

Seems like a good idea.

- --Russ

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From: RFN2@aol.com
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 23:16:51 -0500
Subject: Re: BSE: Terrain Types

Kerry:

Got one for your list: ASH.  Often found on a planet where prolonged battles
have taken place in the past.  Don't know if RTG is going to continue to use
it.  Basically, from  what I understand, it is the change from another type
of atmosphere to this one due to combat.

Rob

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From: RFN2@aol.com
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 23:30:21 EST
Subject: Fwd: Re: BSE: Drugs, Addictio...

I'd agree with this, more than I do with Chazz' recent post.  It seems to me
that most drugs that I'm familiar with (in the game!) are things that are
fairly common, yet not covered by either Consumer or Luxury Goods.  The
exception being the ones which are addictive.  Of course, it would be neat to
play from the point where Con and Lux Goods can only be produced by a special
complex, or on certain worlds or at colonies that have researcheid a special
type of good made from something at the planet where they're located.  This
seems a little simular to what "He whose name cannot be spoken" said he was
going to do by introducing eight classes of Con Goods.

My greater opinion, however, is that there should be no changes to colony
moral until at least six months after the new rules go into affect.  Too much
change at one time scares me.....of course, anarchy is cool, so long at I'm
in charge. <EWG>.

Rob
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To put it simply, when a colony govrenor stops giving a item to the colonists
the private sector see's the potential for profit and takes over making and
selling that item.  The reason the colonist moral does not increase is that to
buy these items from the private sector they have to pay three to five times
what it would cost them if the govrenor was giving it to them.

Capt. Darkwind Ret.

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