BSE Digest v195 #132 From: kerry@io.com (Kerry Harrison) Date: Sat, 08 Apr 1995 00:00:00 +0000 BSE Digest Thursday, 6 April 1995 Volume 195 : Number 132 In this issue: + BSE: FOE Announcement + Re: BSE: QSN:open debate + BSE: QSN (da...) + BSE: Stargates + Re: BSE: Bug Bites Whale!! + Re: BSE: Stargates + Re: BSE: QSN (da...) + BSE: Drew, Portcia + BSE: Drew, Portcia -Reply + BSE: Alien plague? + Re: BSE: Alien plague? + BSE: Great New Game!!!! + BSE: Werth War Crimes Trial + BSE: AFT/FOE + Re: BSE: Werth War Crimes Trial + Re: BSE: Questions for RTG + Re: BSE: BSE blackhole transi... + BSE: Followup to previous communication See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the bse-list or bse-digest mailing lists. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael.Keane@maf.nasa.gov Date: 04 Apr 95 11:16:45 -0600 Subject: BSE: FOE Announcement To: All Space Faring Races Effective immediately, a reward is being offered for information leading to or the actual return of the Master (aka Water Demon). The reward will be given when the Master is safely returned to Citadel of Chaos. It will consist of five (5) Devestators retaining their FOE hull shift (30 mu's per hull) and the master tech tape for the Celtian farm technology. Information can be forwarded to any FOE ship, colony, or GP. Payment will result only when we have the Master back. Celtian farm tech for individual purchase will be announced at a later date (when the colony it is being set up at has its defenses strengthened). All but IMP military services will be welcome. V'Ril T'Bak, Ruler FOE Target ------------------------------ From: Richard William Chiang <richc@uclink2.berkeley.edu> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 05:05:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: BSE: QSN:open debate I repeat that if you are truly interested in resolution of this issue that you send a personal message to the Governor of Moria via private mail instead of public posturing. On Tue, 4 Apr 1995 PROTHORAX@aol.com wrote: > The outpost owned by your colony was under AFT Moria and was removed do to > there agressive actions. We maped the sector and found no outpost and set one > up. Your GP reprogramed the outpost to QSN Moria. I sent a offer of 5,000 > stellars to be sent to JANUS PROTHORAX (2770) to end this and your governor > agreed! I received no stellars?! Not one! We have been more then generous in > this issue. > You have been generous with one exception. You are not understanding of our position. Our outpost was taken or destroyed. The Alliponians did not do it. We did not accuse you of stealing it or we would have responded in a different fashion. Instead, we made initial contact with you to resolve the matter. We were the party that took the initiative. And if you would respond to our communications, you might find out why there has been a delay in responding. Please use private email to bring up issues in the future. ------------------------------ From: Jackmyster@aol.com Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 08:55:15 -0400 Subject: BSE: QSN (da...) It is interesting....There are two very distinct patterns within the QSN... 1. "Please, let's keep this private..." How many times have we all read that one? 2. "It's not our fault..." or "I didn't do it...." or my personal favorite..."You did it..." To read the QSN posts, their appear to be (constantly) the victims of "happens tance"....Does anything ever happen in the QSN that they want to happen? or are they just misunderstood "victims" of mean spirited, over bearing aliens and humans? (GMs included, of coarse!) Lord Den of Earth ------------------------------ From: Jackmyster@aol.com Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 09:55:16 -0400 Subject: BSE: Stargates I think it might be a good idea if we had a "Stargate Agreement"... Basically, all the governments could be "assigned" a certain amount of stargates in their respective "areas" that way we could keep the "grid" to a reasonable number. RTG is "counting" *every* stargate, not just those "active"... Included I would also *suggest* payment to the SAM government for use of their tech...This is something that has not been done, and it might be a good idea...(hint,hint!!) J. ------------------------------ From: btb4@Lehigh.EDU (B T Braun) Date: Wed, 05 Apr 1995 11:11:09 EDT Subject: Re: BSE: Bug Bites Whale!! 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Funny. ------------------------------ From: Richard William Chiang <richc@uclink2.berkeley.edu> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 09:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: BSE: QSN (da...) On Wed, 5 Apr 1995 Jackmyster@aol.com wrote: > It is interesting....There are two very distinct patterns within the QSN... > > 1. "Please, let's keep this private..." How many times have we all read that > one? > > 2. "It's not our fault..." or "I didn't do it...." or my personal > favorite..."You did it..." > > To read the QSN posts, their appear to be (constantly) the victims of "happens > tance"....Does anything ever happen in the QSN that they want to happen? or > are they just misunderstood "victims" of mean spirited, over bearing aliens > and humans? (GMs included, of coarse!) > > Lord Den of Earth > The FGZ pattern: Because you are against us, you are evil. No no really they are the evil ones. We have scored huge victories. Look we can attack unarmed ships. We really are a military power. I know it is been a while since we won a battle against an armed opponent but it is a conspiracy. I am sure of that. btw, excuse me for trying to save bandwidth. I guess I am a little worried that he will start flooding the net like you do in a futile attempt to convince everyone that you are in the right. ------------------------------ From: rboggs@isisph.com (Russ Boggs) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 11:37:49 -0800 Subject: BSE: Drew, Portcia To all: I was looking at a map of Portcia a couple of days ago and something suddenly hit me. There was a planet there! Last time I was in the game, there were no planets in Portcia. But wait, now there's a planet called Drew. So I checked the Imperial Data Base, and both Drew and T-Snit are listed as being in Portcia, but a little later on, in the blurb section, it says that there are no planets in Portcia. So, I'm confused. Is the planet Drew something placed there by The Old Company to avoid the JE ships that used to be there? Something to do with computerization? What does Drew look like and what is there? - --Russ Boggs ------------------------------ From: PKRAUSKOPF@FALCON.AL.WPAFB.AF.MIL Date: Wed, 05 Apr 1995 14:54:35 -0400 Subject: BSE: Drew, Portcia -Reply Hi Russ, Yes, you hit the nail on the head. When BSE II came on-line, the old affiliation "ghost ships" were deleted from the game. Instead, each affiliation received a colony named "xxx JUMP COLONY" (Where xxx=AFT, FET, etc). These colonies contained the contents of those ghost ships. I've never really looked at Drew, bu the fact that all (or almost all) of those jump colonies are now gone should tell you something. Phil K. ------------------------------ From: Kevin Curnutt <76114.3576@compuserve.com> Date: 05 Apr 95 14:24:40 EDT Subject: BSE: Alien plague? How dangerous is the alien plague? Is it *very* important to have one hospital complex for every 1000 colonists? Or is it just marginally important? Kevin ------------------------------ From: Scragg@infi.net (Joe Eckhout) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 16:42:31 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: Alien plague? > How dangerous is the alien plague? Is it *very* important to have >one hospital complex for every 1000 colonists? Or is it just marginally >important? > >Kevin > The last plague (that I know of) to hit the game you need 1 Hospital complex per 1000 to "cure" the plague. But hey, whos to say the next one will be the same way? ------------------------------ From: HarryFlash@aol.com Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 21:16:05 -0400 Subject: BSE: Great New Game!!!! Folks, Sorry I haven't been more active here, but between preparing the Werth War Crimes Trial, readying IND Werth for a visit from a VERY IMPORTANT person, and playing a great new computer game, I just haven't had much free time. Anyway, the great new game (which I stay up late every night playing) is called Q-COM. It is about a mythical urine-colored race from the mythical Drill System attempting to enslave all the free peoples of the CP. It is nerve-racking and exciting, and when the last Q-colony goes up in a nuclear cloud, you want to stand up and cheer. It is now the most popular computer game at IND Werth, and I hear it is selling well at most other colonies (except SMS colonies, where self-help programs on how to lick the stinking feet of six-fingered monsters are apparently the best sellers). Regards to all, Harry ------------------------------ From: StephMarte@aol.com Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 23:46:59 -0400 Subject: BSE: Werth War Crimes Trial Harry, Please let me know the results of the trial. Another major legal case is breaking out in Limond on Allipon, and I've had several high ranking Imperials inquire if Forrest "Gumpy" Curry is available to serve as District Judge in the celebrated "Fat Boy" trial. It seems Allipon's Justice Ito has an even lower IQ than Forrest. Arthur ------------------------------ From: Michael.Keane@maf.nasa.gov Date: 06 Apr 95 12:46:42 -0600 Subject: BSE: AFT/FOE On April 3 Mike Cofran (sorry about misspelling you name before) wrote: >Your initial message stated that if anyone tried to re-take undersea >base, that the farm tech would be lost forever. That is what I was >referring to. > >Hmmm..IMP's reporting that operations on Hammerfest going >smoothly, I >wonder what's really happening. > >Zed Thunder > pertinent data from original message: >>The farm tech at FOE Undersea Base will remain available for purchase. >>Interference with *any* FOE possession in the North Cape system will result in >>denial of access to Undersea Base and eventual destruction. Requests for >>access can be directed to the Blood Priest (Wade) or my self. Zed, Have someone read the above section slowly and carefully to you. The first sentence clearly states the farm tech would remain available. The second warns AFF's and individuals of the consequences of interfering with the FOE, loss of access to the farm tech (then at Undersea Base) and destruction of said individual and/or AFF. The last explains how to gain access to the farm tech (an unusual addition to your supposed threat of destruction). If the matter is still unclear, too bad. You are very close to getting your AFF banned from the farm tech (beings, too stupid to understand the above, would make poor slaves anyway). Read slowly and die smart. V'Ril T'Bak, Ruler FOE Target ------------------------------ From: TimEnright@aol.com Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 20:16:02 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: Werth War Crimes Trial You guys can talk about all of the war crimes trials you want, but just stay clear of the O.J. Beezer trial! I am sure if we can get F. Lee Krieger to defend him, he will be vindicated. Yours for the Beezergroup, Augustus, Gus, Beezer ------------------------------ From: RTGThad@aol.com Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 22:09:16 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: Questions for RTG Hiya Chip: We have modified a lot of the stuff based on programming issues and such but the intent of all the changes remains the same. In the case of research, the idea was to have each colony be good at specific things ... I could just as easily rename factories something less descriptive as institute CRLs and such. The point os to restrict what certain colonies produce so that they are really good at some things and really crappy at others.What does the producing isn't that material in my eyes, especially when re-writing loads of sub-routines are involved <g>. In any case, we are real close now, and any open discussions just tend to slow things down big time. I think what we have at this juncture reflects the spirit of eberything we have said we wanted to do, so hold on just a little longer, I think you'll be pleased when you see the whole picture. Thad ------------------------------ From: RTGThad@aol.com Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 22:12:34 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: BSE blackhole transi... Yes, the exit points must be used. A TNU or special ability allows you to pick the one you want rather than a random location that would normally result. Thad ------------------------------ From: Ron.Kleinman@Eng.Sun.COM (Ron Kleinman) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 19:14:25 -0700 Subject: BSE: Followup to previous communication > QSN Whale, > It is known though out civilizied space that > your kind are no more then theaves and robbers. > Sail in the periphery starcaptain for it's the only > safe space I hear a starcaptain of your AFF can > sail! > Dear PROTHORAX thing, It has been pointed out to me by QSN Diplomats that you sent your message as an accredited member of the WASP, not the FGZ, and hence my original reply was somewhat misdirected. As the MerchantPerson of the Blue Whale, my mistake was only natural. Many traders have as of late tended to view the Wasp as a minor (but annoying) wing of the FGZ. My sincerest apologies to whichever one of the 2 affiliations may have been more insulted by my failure to perceive any difference between them. Yr Obedient Servant, Nicholas Van Rijn QSN Blue Whale MerchantPerson ------------------------------ End of BSE Digest V195 #132 *************************** To subscribe to bse-digest, send the command: subscribe bse-digest in the body of a message to "Majordomo@io.com". If you want to subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the "subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-bse-list": subscribe bse-digest local-bse-list@your.domain.net A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "bse-digest" in the commands above with "bse-list". Up