BSE Digest v195 #131 From: kerry@io.com (Kerry Harrison) Date: Wed, 05 Apr 1995 00:00:00 +0000 BSE Digest Wednesday, 5 April 1995 Volume 195 : Number 131 In this issue: + Re: BSE: Re: Alien Policies + Re: BSE: Animousity to non-hu... + Re: BSE: More AFT silly threats + Re: BSE: Questions for RTG + Re: BSE: Origins 95 & BSE + BSE: AndCon + BSE: PBM Pilgramage + Re: BSE: More AFT silly threats + Re: BSE: QSN:open debate + Re: BSE: Origins 95 & BSE + BSE: Bug Bites Whale!! + BSE: BSE blackhole transition + Re: BSE: Bug Bites Whale!! + Re: BSE: QSN:open debate + Re: BSE: BSE blackhole transition + Re: BSE: Leaving + Re: BSE: More AFT silly threats + Re: BSE: BSE blackhole transition + Re: BSE: Re: BSE Digest V195 ... See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the bse-list or bse-digest mailing lists. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RFN2@aol.com Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 01:29:42 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: Re: Alien Policies "The AFT, most certainly, DO NOT speak for the FET." BlackJack ------------------------------ From: RFN2@aol.com Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 01:19:23 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: Animousity to non-hu... Carl has been kept abreast (via snailmail - so perhaps after you spoke with him, Shazz) of the more "hardline" - my word - responses to his post. Rob Neal ------------------------------ From: Cojran Michael <cojran@ucsub.Colorado.EDU> Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 14:00:16 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: BSE: More AFT silly threats Your initial message stated that if anyone tried to re-take undersea base, that the farm tech would be lost forever. That is what I was referring to. Hmmm..IMP's reporting that operations on Hammerfest going smoothly, I wonder what's really happening. Zed Thunder ------------------------------ From: ccharnle@m-net148.arbornet.org (Chip Charnley) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 95 08:06 WET DST Subject: Re: BSE: Questions for RTG Thad, You going to give us all another pass at input? I've already heard lots of things not to like about the 'final' version but have seen VERY little from you guys since last year on the development yet a LOT of rumors from various sources on the changes that have been made since your last info file. As an example, I am SORELY disappointed that you are not bringing back Colony Research Labs and Shipboard Research labs. The idea of doing research on a new liquor in a factory that was building tanks last month is a real RP turn off. Chip >Hi Todd: > >Good point. Pete and I have concluded that the most reasonable date for >implementation is 30 days from the date of the release of version 5.0 of the >rules, which should have been yesterday, might be tomorrow but will surely >bee soon. <g>. We are formatting it, proofing it and while doing so adding >all the the brain farts into it that we can squeeze out <while trying to >maintatin a reasonable turn around on the turns>. So we are almost there, but >everyone should have reasonable warning before they hit. > >Thad > > > ------------------------------ From: ccharnle@m-net148.arbornet.org (Chip Charnley) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 95 08:06 WET DST Subject: Re: BSE: Origins 95 & BSE AndCon is billed as the National PBM Convention. It is held in the Cleveland Ohio area in mid September and has had a LOT of PBM attendence over the past few years. This years dates I don't have in front of me. Chip >>Hear Ye Hear Ye, >> >>I'm about 1 hour from the Convention center - my place is "crashable", but it >>is a commute. >> >> >>Be seeing you, >> >>Brad Braun > >Oh yeah? Hey, that would be great! Do you have a soundproof room? >I fear for my safety otherwise! <g> > >Seriously, I noticed that Chip made an announcement concerning Andcon. >What is that <brief>? > >Also, could someone post the dates and whereabouts for each of these >events that you all are discussing as possible BSE get togethers? >I know only that Gencon is in Milwaukee, Wisc. > >Warning - contrary to popular belief, I do NOT have a tail, nor do I >have a lot of hair. That is Steve Mathews bailiwick <g>. > >Shazz > > > > > ------------------------------ From: PKRAUSKOPF@FALCON.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL Date: Tue, 04 Apr 1995 08:23:21 -0400 Subject: BSE: AndCon Andcon is going to be held in Toledo this year. Evidently, they couldn't find facilities large enough to handle the expected crowd. WARNING: It's not yet clear exactly how much PBM stuff is going to be at AndCon this year. In the ads I've seen so far, they are down-playing the PBM stuff quite a bit. I usually receive a flyer on it, and I'll post the PBM part when I receive it. Regardless of the extent of PBM at the Con, if enough BSE players go I'll probably go too (at least for Saturday). Phil K. ------------------------------ From: Scragg@infi.net (Joe Eckhout) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 09:40:29 -0400 Subject: BSE: PBM Pilgramage I'm soooo confused! Origins, GenCon, AndCon.... which one which one???? Ahhhhhhh! <pulling at hair> I think I'll just start to drinking mass quantities of grass juice, that should help me make a decision. Capt Scragg, SWN charter member ------------------------------ From: rboggs@isisph.com (Russ Boggs) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 08:17:55 -0800 Subject: Re: BSE: More AFT silly threats >Hmmm..IMP's reporting that operations on Hammerfest going smoothly, I >wonder what's really happening. > >Zed Thunder Wow. News from the front. Just like real life. (g). - --Russ ------------------------------ From: Richard William Chiang <richc@uclink2.berkeley.edu> Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 09:13:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: BSE: QSN:open debate On Mon, 3 Apr 1995 PROTHORAX@aol.com wrote: > Evil QSN creature, > In normal relations between groups both partys inter into a contract when > one wants something and one has something. Example QSN, the WaSP own a > outpost on Alippon and you want it. Normally one enters into trade relations > before aquiring the item but not the QSN! For relations the WaSP gave the QSN > a very good and fair price for that outpost that you stole and you agreed to > send the stellars to our political position. Today QSN, we looked at our > political report and you have not sent the stellars. QSN, look into your > history and every time you have crossed the WaSP you have lost colonys, > fleets, and ships that amount to 10 times your aquired item. Do you not have > the ablility to learn QSN creature? > > JANUS PROTHORAX Janus Prothorax, Your need to publically announce matters best left to private channels is frustrating and can only be seen as inciting. I would point out that the outpost you claim to have owned was previously owned by my colony. The exact reason for the destruction of the outpost is still unknown. An independent mining group was sent to reclaim our outpost and they misinterpreted their instructions and seized said outpost. I would point out that we immediately contacted the Wasp as soon as we found out and offered compensation or return of your outpost. In fact, you personally said it was no big problem, but your actions indicate otherwise. You did not respond to our communications concerning the outpost and continue to do so. While I can understand why you are standoffish at times, do not blame others for inaction if you hinder their activities to correct the situation. As governor of Moria, I have seeked nothing but good relations with the Wasp. You readily admit that you found irregularities with the outpost such as extra mines on site. Did you think such mines appeared as gifts from heaven? If you truly want to resolve this matter and seek better relations, I would recommend you respond to my communications and save the public bickering for other matters Minister Robinson Vodqyn QSN Moria ------------------------------ From: Kerry Harrison <kerry@io.com> Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 12:13:56 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: BSE: Origins 95 & BSE On Tue, 4 Apr 1995, Chip Charnley wrote: > AndCon is billed as the National PBM Convention. It is held in the Cleveland > Ohio area in mid September and has had a LOT of PBM attendence over the past > few years. This years dates I don't have in front of me. AndCon has moved both it's date and location for this year, I don't have the info with me at the moment either, but I'll dig it up when I get home tonight. Kerry ------------------------------ From: Ron.Kleinman@Eng.Sun.COM (Ron Kleinman) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 13:51:58 -0700 Subject: BSE: Bug Bites Whale!! >>From: PROTHORAX@aol.com >>Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 17:55:27 -0400 >>Subject: Re: BSE: Re: BSE Digest V195 ... >> >>QSN Whale, >> It is known though out civilizied space that >>your kind are no more then theaves and robbers. >> My translation module needs adjusting. I can't tell whether this baseless canard is directed at the QSN, merchant captains in general, me personally, or whales, which are an inner empire endangered species and need all the help they can get. One can only imagine exactly what a 'theave' is. Obviously something straight out of an FGZ nightmare .. probably a guy who manufactures mosquito repellant. >> Sail in the periphery starcaptain for it's the only >>safe space I hear a starcaptain of your AFF can >>sail! As a merchantperson, I sail in the periphery because: 1. That's where most of the profits are to be found. 2. I prefer the comforts of the more civilized ports. Robotic sheep may be all well and good for Transhole folk, but when you come right down to it, you are simply rubbing your private parts against steel wool. Me for the pleasure palaces of BOME! However I will acknowledge that my ship would be at risk from FGZ forces if I left the safety of Capellan periphery. This is because I would be a prime target for the FGZ warfleets. You see ... my ship is unarmed. Sincerely, Nicholas Van Rijn QSN Blue Whale MerchantPerson ------------------------------ From: Kevin Curnutt <76114.3576@compuserve.com> Date: 04 Apr 95 17:22:58 EDT Subject: BSE: BSE blackhole transition Phil (and Russ), >>You can transit a blackhole from anywhere in the system (you still have to exit the exit points though).<< According to what Thad told me, with a TNU you get to pick your exit point (any space square in the BH system). Kevin ------------------------------ From: PROTHORAX@aol.com Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 18:35:15 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: Bug Bites Whale!! One creatures of a AFF is a representation of the whole. One goal, one mind insuring the safety and growth of the hive and Hive Queen. The actions of one of your members reflects on your AFF goals, attitude, and hive mentality. Starcaptain of the endangered Blue Whale species are you a keystone species? Are there many of your species that sail the stars? Or are you like the bottom dwelling carp species that sails in the transhole? JANUS PROTHORAX ------------------------------ From: PROTHORAX@aol.com Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 18:35:21 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: QSN:open debate The outpost owned by your colony was under AFT Moria and was removed do to there agressive actions. We maped the sector and found no outpost and set one up. Your GP reprogramed the outpost to QSN Moria. I sent a offer of 5,000 stellars to be sent to JANUS PROTHORAX (2770) to end this and your governor agreed! I received no stellars?! Not one! We have been more then generous in this issue. Note QSN creature, it was you that crossed our paths as we were gathering resorces for our hive and Hive Queen. We view this as threating the safety of the hive and Hive Queen. But, living around like creatures as your self we have over time developed a much higher tolerance toward your actions vs what other instectiods would tolerate. JANUS PROTHORAX ------------------------------ From: rboggs@isisph.com (Russ Boggs) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 16:04:21 -0800 Subject: Re: BSE: BSE blackhole transition Kevin, > >>You can transit a blackhole from anywhere in the system (you still >have to exit the exit points though).<< > > According to what Thad told me, with a TNU you get to pick your exit >point (any space square in the BH system). I ain't the expert, but I don't think so. I'm pretty sure you have to use the exit points marked on the blackhole maps. - --Russ ------------------------------ From: rboggs@isisph.com (Russ Boggs) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 16:04:25 -0800 Subject: Re: BSE: Leaving >To all: > > Effective immediately I am leaving the game. Real world time concerns >have prevented me from being able to sit down and do a turn for several >months. And it's going to get worse (I'm transferring to Italy in a few >months). > > So... Have fun all (even you, Chip) and take care. > > Maybe I'll see you all again in a few years. > > Steve Mathews is taking over my positions. He and RTG have been notified. > > > Jeff Uh-huh. And why did you post this message on April the First? - --Russ ------------------------------ From: scragg@infi.net Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 22:05:31 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: More AFT silly threats >>Hmmm..IMP's reporting that operations on Hammerfest going smoothly, I >>wonder what's really happening. >> >>Zed Thunder > >Wow. News from the front. Just like real life. (g). >--Russ > > > Now we just need Peta Arnet giving a blow by blow report from the FOE HQ on the planet.... ------------------------------ From: Kerry Harrison <kerry@io.com> Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 22:44:56 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: BSE: BSE blackhole transition On Tue, 4 Apr 1995, Russ Boggs wrote: > Kevin, > > > >>You can transit a blackhole from anywhere in the system (you still > >have to exit the exit points though).<< > > > > According to what Thad told me, with a TNU you get to pick your exit > >point (any space square in the BH system). > > I ain't the expert, but I don't think so. I'm pretty sure you have to use > the exit points marked on the blackhole maps. > > --Russ A TNU lets you pick which exit point and system you come out in. Kerry ------------------------------ From: Richard William Chiang <richc@uclink2.berkeley.edu> Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 09:20:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: BSE: Re: BSE Digest V195 ... On Mon, 3 Apr 1995 PROTHORAX@aol.com wrote: > QSN Whale, > It is known though out civilizied space that > your kind are no more then theaves and robbers. > Sail in the periphery starcaptain for it's the only > safe space I hear a starcaptain of your AFF can > sail! > Do tell. I would point out that the Wasp have basically been locked into an alliance with your historical enemies. You have been greatly wronged by AFF that you currently have to bow to. Funny thing how quickly attitudes change when convient. As for traveling elsewhere, your pirate activities are well known. I would recommend that all starcaptains be wary of Wasp space. QSN Zealoxx ------------------------------ End of BSE Digest V195 #131 *************************** To subscribe to bse-digest, send the command: subscribe bse-digest in the body of a message to "Majordomo@io.com". 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