BSE Digest v195 #142 From: kerry@io.com (Kerry Harrison) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 1995 00:00:00 +0000 BSE Digest Saturday, 15 April 1995 Volume 195 : Number 142 In this issue: + Re: BSE: Trinkets (BOUNCED ME... + Re: BSE: Re: Werth Intelligen... + Re: BSE: The DTR question? + Re: BSE: Wasp Repellant + Re: BSE: DTR Space, Revisited... + Re: BSE: DTR Space, Revisited... + Re: BSE: The DTR question? + Re: BSE: QSN - FGZ Hostilities + BSE: Recent Posts + BSE: MEK + Re: BSE: DTR Space, Revisited & Clarified + Re: BSE: Werth celebrates Kri... + BSE: pitchforks in northcape + BSE: Report from Undersea Base + BSE: MEK + BSE: SMS comments See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the bse-list or bse-digest mailing lists. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PROTHORAX@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 21:09:57 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: Trinkets (BOUNCED ME... (ooc) Richard, the firestorm directed at the QSN is a result of 3+ years of having to take the actions and attitude from the QSN. Only now can some of us standup and say NO we will no longer tolerate your actions. I don't know how many times the QSN has said to me that outpost or site or system or planet or alien or life form is theres and the QSN doesn't even have a ship in system let alone a colony?! Richard, it is the ebb and flow of the game and due to your AFF growth you should exspect some heat as your AFF is by all standards a maga government AFF. The method of your climbing has many looking to your growth as being a tad shady. I can think of a couple governments that conducted like actions and took heat for there action for years and still do to day! This is not going to go away and your deparment sould welcome the challange. later david ------------------------------ From: PROTHORAX@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 21:10:02 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: Re: Werth Intelligen... Greetings Blue Whale creature, We has a snap of many FOE ships in a QSN starport being readyed for delivery and the alien crew seen or should I say not truely seeeeen drinking stem brew and talking to the maintance crews?! Yes, it's from orbit but you can make out there 6 toed shoes and shifting feet/claws of the FOE! I'm sure this is a mistake as your AFF has stated in the past there not allined with the FOE. WELT WASP ------------------------------ From: PROTHORAX@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 21:10:06 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: The DTR question? (ooc) I could be wrong here but didn't the DTR attack the GTT when the TCA opened up? In the past the GTT was prohuman and why would the GTT sell colonys to nonhumans group? Not being negitive here but for us roleplayers I personlly would like to have a reason as to the sale so I can roleplay to this action. later david ------------------------------ From: PROTHORAX@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 21:34:56 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: Wasp Repellant Blue Whale creature, The WaSP take a bath in water and apply a soap solution to ones self would be deadly to us! Yes, we sometime hang around dung as we find the best yields are to be found and gathered. As a insectiod gathering for the Queen WaSP is what is important. We view the QSN as walking bags of pond scum, water, or wha t ever you many call it. We gather the QSN creature is 85% water(pond scum) and rest mineral ect. This is basicly what we find in a pond of scum. As I may point out there is no standing water on our home world so this enviroment is repulsive and foreign. JANUS PROTHORAX ------------------------------ From: RFN2@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 22:50:28 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: DTR Space, Revisited... Zed: Your "Negotiator" did post said message to the DTR, and then complained about a late response. BlackJack Morgan FET PD ------------------------------ From: RFN2@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 23:07:44 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: DTR Space, Revisited... FET reply to recent post to the DTR (I'm not going to waste his time with this one)....it was thought you'd need a very clear example. Get it? Don't bicker at me regarding your regret over you own past mistakes; Carl's not on-line, so call him. Don't waste our time. Same goes to you too Richard - don't waste my time, stop whistling Dixie and pull those pistols. Rob ------------------------------ From: RFN2@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 23:11:33 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: The DTR question? RIP Jax.......Is Neil back early? BlackJack ------------------------------ From: RFN2@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 23:15:44 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: QSN - FGZ Hostilities The QSN did not destroy a RIP corsair (as one of their members, whom I'm tired of listening to recently stated); it was a Corsair alright, but it was captured by another NON-QSN ship. Unless there has been another attack I don't know about. BlackJack "Speedbump on the Info-Superhighway" ------------------------------ From: PEllisCaz@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 23:59:31 -0400 Subject: BSE: Recent Posts To ALL: OOC: I don't know about you, but I am sick and tired of spending my time and money on your personal arguements. From now on try to keep your personal BULL CRAP of this list. If you can't resist at least have a point to it. ------------------------------ From: Cojran Michael <cojran@ucsub.Colorado.EDU> Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 23:21:18 -0600 (MDT) Subject: BSE: MEK A general question here. MEK are jump capabable. So are they considered 'troops', and thus need full jump training in order to jump from orbit? Or can they just do it without training? Mike Cofran ------------------------------ From: Alan Hatcher <ZU02380@UABDPO.DPO.UAB.EDU> Date: Sat, 15 Apr 95 00:42:27 CDT Subject: Re: BSE: DTR Space, Revisited & Clarified On Thu, 13 Apr 1995 20:19:12 -0400 <RFN2@aol.com> said: >From: Stefan Carlson, Speaker of the House of the DTR > >To: Mikel Lloyd, AFT Negociator > ^ Wow, what good spellcheckers the DTR have. < preceding text deleted > > > Obviously, the wse of a spellchecker program is not high on your list of >things to do: "hypocrosy", "extremly", "equalability" - huh? > > It has been brought to our attention that the AFT may have signed a treaty >with the TCA in the past. If so, please send a copy since it is not in our >files. No treaty, however, gives away the right of a government to control >its own space. Poor record keeping on the part of the DTR does not excuse the breaking of a treaty that they are a party to. If the DTR are not interested in honoring the terms of the treaty that the AFT paid for and signed in good faith, simply state that you are breaking the treaty instead of trying to hide behind an excuse of not having it on file. < text deleted > > If the AFT Negotiator can fly off the handle like this over a simple >matter of DTR sovereignty (which no one else seems to have misunderstood) we >don't even want to deal with the NON-diplomats among the AFT. Therefore, all >AFT ships are also banned from DTR space (systems 191,192, and 193) until >further notice, which will not come until Mikel Lloyd apologises to the >people of the DTR. At the same time, AFT ships are NOT welcome at DTR Bome, >although, abiding by Imperial law, we will not target AFT ships at DTR Bome >unless they attempt to land, hire an agent, or perform some other hostile >action. > > Please inform all AFT ship captains that they will be targeted if they >violate our rules. > >/s/ Stefan Carlson >DTR Speaker of the House Pardon me, but the 3 systems you named are very much in the "back waters" of the Trans-Canally region. I don't really believe that it will put profits seriously in jeopardy since I doubt many AFT captains frequent that area. With new systems and areas being discovered, I think we will be able to cover any lost profitability due to your sanctions quite easily. I find the current leadership of the DTR to be quite flippant and disrespectful in their treatment of this problem. Allowing the verbal statements of a single AFT member to upset them enough to sanction an entire affiliation and break the agreements of a binding treaty leads me to believe that our trust would be greatly misplaced in continuing to trade with your race. You have requested an apology from Mikel Lloyd and I request an apology from your leadership to the other members of the Association of Free Traders, who to my knowledge have never done anything to place you or your race in physical, economic or mental hazard. Thomas Payne Research Czar, Association of Free Traders ------------------------------ From: LUDENDORF@delphi.com Date: Sat, 15 Apr 1995 02:35:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: BSE: Werth celebrates Kri... To: Wayne Alexander (whenever you can read this) While browsing thru a used bookstore this afternoon with my ladyfriend, I saw a book entitled: "Blame it on Rlo" This was a Sci-fi book, and after glancing thru it, the main character was quite similar to your Rlo. I was curious, was that the source idea behind your creation of your Rlo character? Steve ------------------------------ From: LUDENDORF@delphi.com Date: Sat, 15 Apr 1995 02:35:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: BSE: pitchforks in northcape Steve D. Now there's an idea (in response to "...pitchforks in Northcape..."), perhaps i'll rename one of my GP's "Archangels", and name the leader "Rafael" (If I remember my bible right, he was the angel who commanded the hosts of heaven against Satan....i'm a bit rusty on bible stuff). Steve M. ------------------------------ From: Michael.Keane@maf.nasa.gov Date: 14 Apr 95 16:45:13 -0600 Subject: BSE: Report from Undersea Base ...................... (Interstellar Network News logo) ....................... <realtime video of aging action reported St. Bernard Shaw> This is St. Bernard Shaw reporting for INN from downtown Undersea Base in the North Cape system. We've been graciously allowed by the local Celtian leaders to report on the conflict here. The locals report that will help from Foelian 'volunteers' they are defending their world from conquest by Imperial forces (aside, who do they think will buy this?). The Foelian forces commander has given us copies of the colony sensor logs and they confirm what we have gathered on our own. The fighting to date has only included space bombardment of surface colonies by the Imperial fleet. Rumor has it that the last round included capital ships flying AFT colors. We are attempting to confirm this report. The losses and expended weapons on both sides are show here on this chart. <Steps aside> Imperial (& AFT?) Celtian & FOE Troops ? 0 Colonists 0 683 Msl. Launchers 21 1500 Missiles 2637(51) 1500 We asked the Foelian troop commander about the losses his command had taken and he had this to say. . . <cut to video of FOE in camouflage hooded robe, red eyes glowing with the hood's deep shadow> "Our troops have taken no losses. Some of these Celtian are just too aggressive to wait for the IMPies to attack. They took their own weapons and attacked the intruding fleet. Most of my men admired their valiant deaths. Unfortunately, they are poor warriors. But they have scored two minor hits on the Imperial Dreadnought Intrepid Enforcer. They destroyed several tens of missile launchers and have forced the IMP's to waste thousands of missiles on useless land. As of the last battle, the Imperials have 8 DN's in orbit with no weapons. Typical human planning . . . piss poor. The brave Celtians also scared off the first IMP transport to arrive." <St. Bernard's voice from off camera> What about P. Arn'ts report from landed Imperial troops? <Loud hiss of laughter> "You humans are so gullible! That was simply more Imperial staged propaganda. The vegetation visible during the entire so called 'report' was obviously not Hammerfestian. Maybe you can convince stupid races with your laughable reports, but the Celtians were never fooled. I must return to helping the local prepare the defenses to fight the invaders. Die well human." <FOE commander turns and glides away> There you have it, the first interview with the Foelians 'defending' Hammerfest, only from INN. We tried to interview Celtians on the street, but our FOE military police and other FOE troops on the street said it was not safe for humans to get close to the natives since the death of several hundred of the kin and neighbors at the hands of the Imperial fleet. There are rumors, which we refuse to believe, of human reporters being drowned while interviewing the locals. We must end here if this report is to be shipped out by neutral courier for broadcast. This is St. Bernard Shaw reporting from Undersea Base in North Cape. ------------------------------ From: LUDENDORF@delphi.com Date: Sat, 15 Apr 1995 02:47:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: BSE: MEK Mike c. good question on whether they need jump training. I would guess yes. However, more importantly, you must have MEK training in order to use them (or the colonist inside will never figure out which button to push to activate the engines as the MEK is plummeting at increasing speeds towards the ground. Steve M. ------------------------------ From: John Stanton <jstanton@qualcomm.com> Date: Sat, 15 Apr 1995 02:28:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: BSE: SMS comments From: Lord Croft To: Harry Flashman Hairy, It seems that you are living proof of the dangers of black lotus overdose. At least I assume that your comments were made in a state of drug induced stupor. First off, there is no "secret" aliance between the QSN and the SMS. There however is a treaty between our two groups pledging mutual defense. This treaty was the basis for SMS Porkamo Base participating in the defense of QSN Portrude last year when several FGZ base ships appeared in orbit of Tought Ugo and started an attack on PFM Suomi. And we at Porkamo Base continue to have orders to defend QSN, I am sure if I did otherwise you would accuse me of being the lapdag of the WCE and the FGZ. However, the SMS is not looking to instigate any troubles with either the WCE or the FGZ. On the matter of the stargate, I am satisfied with the offer of the WCE and FGZ to help repair it once hostilities are over. I indeed was approached by the WCE and asked to turn off the stargate or move my ships away. I refused on the basis that the stargate was mine and I had an agreement to keep it open and defended. My personal preference would have been for a peaceful resolution to this matter, but I think that the time for that option has passed. There are similarities between this conflict and the SAM/WCE conflict of many years back. I made a mistake back then of trying to get the two side to talk out a solution, but sometimes that solution is not feasible. One point that I have been happy to see druring this situation is the cration of the THC -- it is good to see the FGZ, SAM and WCE cooperating. I think that this will create a more stable Transhole in the future. Back to your slanders... The SMS takes orders from no one with the exception of the Emperor, and he hasn't made too many demands on us lately. We definitely don't take orders from the QSN, we don't even take orders from the ISP, although we have been known to cooperate with them extensively when it come to the RIP. And speaking as someone with over ten years of continuous service in the SMS, this crop of coordinators is one the best I have seen in my tenure. It is true that we no longer crank out those truely outstanding RIPers like Curry, Scafflock and Horn -- but we don't have constant turnover of officers either. When you make an agreement with the SMS, you can bet that we'll live up to it (eventually;) and that you won't be dealing with a crop of new faces with a different agenda next year. And what the deal with sheep? The SMS does not traffic in sheep, we do however brew some nice Mac Ric's ale. And if you need that extra added kick we can spike it with just a little bit of neurotoxin;} Junior Croft, SMS Transhole ------------------------------ End of BSE Digest V195 #142 *************************** To subscribe to bse-digest, send the command: subscribe bse-digest in the body of a message to "Majordomo@io.com". 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