BSE Digest v195 #148 From: kerry@freeside.fc.net (Kerry Harrison) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 00:00:00 +0000 BSE Digest Tuesday, 18 April 1995 Volume 195 : Number 148 In this issue: + Re: BSE: IND Positions + BSE: The Poker Game + Re: BSE: Baghdad + BSE: Flashman Sweeps To Victory + BSE:IND/Anonymous + Re: BSE: IND Positions + BSE: cool mail reader + Re: BSE: Re: PFM Fury + BSE: "Blame It On Rlo" + Re: BSE: Hostilities - Where??? + Re: BSE: STGMap + BSE: Weird Dreams + Re: BSE: IND Positions + BSE: AFT Negotiator gets fined. + BSE: EEM Hiport + Re: BSE: EEM Hiport See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the bse-list or bse-digest mailing lists. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RFN2@aol.com Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 22:56:02 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: IND Positions OOC: I vote for number three also (examine the rubble) Sounds good to me. Rob ------------------------------ From: Wayne Alexander <71470.344@compuserve.com> Date: 17 Apr 95 23:02:17 EDT Subject: BSE: The Poker Game Blackjack and Guido, Now just stop it, both of you! I invite you to my house and looks what happens...broken glass and one of Ma's favorite chairs now missing a leg and a whole lot looser! Blackjack, dealing poker using a pinocle deck is a little farfetched. You can't believe you could've pulled it off, do you, really? You can't blame our pisano for feelin' like you wanted to take advantage of him, okay. Guido, you Sicilian hothead, calm down! Think for minute. Blackjack was toasted. He's dealing 7 card lohold with a pinocle deck. The first four cards up were 10's and two of them were spades. He didn't have a chance. You threw the drink and he almost choked he was gigglin' so hard. It was a joke, okay? Not in the best of taste, after all it is the game of poker. But, hey, it's Blackjack, c'mon. Blackjack, your drunk and disorderly conduct and feeble attempt to cheat is no small matter. Boo hiss! You gotta bring all the heavenherb and grassjuice to the game for the next three months. *AND* you can consume no more than a gallon of adult libations each time! Boys, boys, boys, please try to contain yourselves. Remember why we're here. First, to take Lloyd's loot, but also to talk things out among ourselves. Blackjack, you really should apologize for your transgression against the honored game of poker. Cheatin', even when its funny, just ain't allowed. Now, can't we all just get along? Stu Krieger Cleaning up the debris... ------------------------------ From: v176@rex.uokhsc.edu (Todd D. Clapp) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 22:31:26 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: BSE: Baghdad To: Any Interested Party From: Lt. Joshua Landover, ITS Pegasus (3491) Subject: Large M/NM deposit Anyone interested in a large M/NM deposit in the Baghdad system. I currently own an outpost on such a deposit, and I am interested in selling or trading it for something I can use. Any takers? Josh ------------------------------ From: StephMarte@aol.com Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 23:30:42 -0400 Subject: BSE: Flashman Sweeps To Victory Harry, Congrat's. If the Werth House of Commons votes to join the WCE let me be the first to welcome you - and the first to politely request you tone down the anti-SMS rhetoric. Hardly any of my friends in the SMS are drag queens. <g> Arthur ps: For those disturbed by Harry's allusion to the the SMS, refer to The History Of The Capellan Periphery, entry 187.46. After the RIP Deathguards captured SMS Avarice, the SMS relief force found the colony govenor Minister Siegmund "hidden in the colony wearing woman's clothing." ------------------------------ From: "Richard A. Loutzenheiser" <76311.2317@compuserve.com> Date: 17 Apr 95 23:58:07 EDT Subject: BSE:IND/Anonymous I believe that it is a mistake to allow for unlimited play of IND anonymous positions in the manner currently allowed. Don't get me wrong, I hate GM interference, but the lack of some method of investigating who planned and executed an attack encourages those for whom chaos is a means to an end. If IND continues in its present form, a handfull players could make the game far more frustrating for the general populace than we would enjoy. If I ran IND positions, the wreckage would indicate that the lifeforms aboard were SAM/WSP/KZK, others would be human, etc. Additionally, analysis of the composition of the wreckage might be able to tell you where it was made or by whom; eg the alloys are of a type used only by race X, or the specific characteristics of the design indicate that it was upgraded at an EEM facility. Ships may be of a class, but in actuality each is unique. If the gamemasters find it too burdensome to incorporate methods whereby we can determine who is engaging in kamakaze missions then they should either eliminate anonymous positions or return to strict adherence for affilation membership. This is my opinion and does not in anyway represent that official position of the Samillian Hegomony. Richard A. Loutzenheiser, SAM ------------------------------ From: RFN2@aol.com Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 23:06:22 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: IND Positions IND must be allowed to be anonomous, as we all can potentially benefit from them. However there should be some stop gap. #3 provides that. In the past, by my undderstanding, the stop-gap was the price of hulls. Besides, how long will someone who just runs suicide missions really be interested in the game? Rob Neal ------------------------------ From: "Cap'n Scragg" <scragg@infi.net> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 23:05:58 +0000 Subject: BSE: cool mail reader Just thought I'd let anyone who is using an internert provider that the mail reader I just switched to is REAL cool. I can tell it to look for messages with BSE in the subject and address and it automatically routes it to a folder I have setup for the BSE-LIST traffic. The program is Pegasus Mail version 1.2 ------------------------------ From: LUDENDORF@delphi.com Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 01:13:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: BSE: Re: PFM Fury S. Marte, Well y'all beat the IMP record of 6 days on the posted list (PFM Skyhawk - for piracy). Congrads. S. Mathews ------------------------------ From: LUDENDORF@delphi.com Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 01:13:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: BSE: "Blame It On Rlo" Wayne, when you look for the book, the "o" in Rlo is spelled with a woman's lipstick kiss-mark, placed vertically (cover art). Steve - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------------------- Sig file: the Stuckey's on the info-superhighway ------------------------------ From: LUDENDORF@delphi.com Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 01:13:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: BSE: Hostilities - Where??? > Hear! Hear! I'd tell you to go out to Northcape, but there isn't > enough to go around, really > > Don Guido Don Guido, Sorry.... the demons just keep throwing away stuff. Star Adm. Furillo is leading an advance squadron of the ISP 5th Fleet to replace the ISP 6th Squadron (2nd Fleet). Now that it's dumped it's load of obselete missiles on the demons, it can go in for it's scheduled refit. If you wish, I can withdraw the advance squadron of the 4th Fleet (arrived just after the battle of Abyss-2/Fissure) also, to allow "more to go around". BTW: Operational command is still under Adm Graf von Monts. Furillo is just... there. SAdm. von Ludendorf ------------------------------ From: LUDENDORF@delphi.com Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 01:13:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: BSE: STGMap chip, If the new STGMap does what you claim, then I might reconsider it (especially cause I don't feel like re-doing Sreel again) steve ------------------------------ From: LUDENDORF@delphi.com Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 01:13:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: BSE: Weird Dreams > Wow, I just had the weirdest dream last night! I dreamt that > none of us really existed, and we were all just part of some weird > "role playing game", whatever that is, and I was nothing more than a > product of some college punks power fantasies! It was really weird! > I guess I put too much garlic on my spaghetti last night! > > Don Guido Don Guido, Sure.... and I guess i'm just the figment of the imagination of some warped businessman. I recommend that you take a visit to the psychiatrist who helped Adm. Seafeather after he was rescued from the FOE at Upreach. That shrink did wonders in repairing the mental damage the demons inflicted. Perhaps he can help you too. PD von Ludendorf ------------------------------ From: PEllisCaz@aol.com Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 02:59:26 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: IND Positions Ronk, Some of what you stated should be taken care of by the starcaptian limitations. I think most people will run out of ranking starcaptians before they run out of money. But the "black box" idea is cool. I think you should be able to find out the real AFF an IND ship if it is not really IND. After all changing to an IND is really only masking the transponder code of the real AFF. Caz AFT Colony Trading Post ------------------------------ From: Shannon Rundquist <75477.1627@compuserve.com> Date: 18 Apr 95 05:20:43 EDT Subject: BSE: AFT Negotiator gets fined. AFT Negotiator - Mikel Lloyd I find it interesting that the AFT Negotiator is silent on the heavy acquisition of assets from a non-TCA government in Imperial space, especially when same government has restricted access to their space while our stargate still has open access. And to earlier accuse the TCA of non-compliance with a charter and request a refund of stellars not paid in over 2 years for 1 year charters (of course neglecting to mention the lack of payment), well, you - Mikel Lloyd, are banned from TCA space until a fine of 70,000 stellars is paid to the TCA (10,000 per TCA member). I can make that judgement because you accused us of not honoring an agreement on a PUBLIC forum - an agreement that apparently did not really exist since no such payments were made for two years. That 'public' request/complaint, rather than through proper channels, is what has gotten you in trouble as I see the complaint as just an attempt to discredit us rather than an attempt to work something out. This fine and ban does NOT apply to any other AFT member other than the AFT Negotiator as we do not believe that innocents should be penalized for the actions of another. I have also filed a formal protest with the AFT PD concerning your actions as I did not feel that your actions were in line with the profitable relationship that I and possibly other TCA members have with the AFT. In the future, I would recommend not letting your complaints on one persons/groups policy spill over to encompass others. I will not put up with it. Discussion closed. Speaker Silver Cascade [ooc - 'Speaker' is a religious title, not an office title. 'Mr. Speaker' is inappropriate for this character. We chose 'Speaker' because profile says that leader '... speaks with the word of their god.' Needed a title, it fits.] Disclaimer - this is not a read-between-the-lines complaint for mentioned/unmentioned governments to respond to. Disclaimer added to help reduce Ma Bells unexpected phone call surge after distribution of potentially hostile email message from present source <g>. (Although I do get lonely otherwise....) P.S. Oh, Dear Mr. AFT Research Czar - is my spelling ok? I never run a spell checker across my messages nor do I type perfectly, so I may have done some mispelling on here. Oh, do please let me know (in icily snide tone). For those of you who are wondering about my junk here, 1) David Isaac made the 1st nitpick about spelling which ticked off Carl Olsen because Isaac was essentially complaining about Rob Neal's typing (who was gracious enough to type in someone else's letter), followed by Alan Hatcher calling Carl a 'hypocrit' for complaining about mispelling with Carl's own mispellings apparent. 2) This is the end <Cheers!> And if you think this is just REALLY TOTALLY STUPID EMAIL, welcome to the club of those who agree. Spelling nitpicking - indeed. What next? ------------------------------ From: philip.breault@com2bbs.com (Philip Breault) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 01:04:00 -0800 Subject: BSE: EEM Hiport Dear GTT PD Whispers: I am the wrong individual to be asking about replacing missiles. I strongly suggest that you contact the EEM CEO and refer the matter to him. With regards to your concern about your defense programming, my - -personal- opinion is that you can do anything you want with your colony defense list. The "attack" announcememt is how EEM Security sees it. If you have questions or concerns about EEM policy, I most strongly recommend that you communicate your concerns directly to the EEM CEO, and not over public channels. With regard to IND ships, that is part and parcel of a free Periphery, something else that I and my former Imperial shipmates paid for, and not in stellar taxes. As an aside, I offer my condolences to the Beezer family for their loss. Jay Seafeather Director, EEM Security \\\|/// -(o o)- +------------------------oOOOo--(_)--oOOOo----------------------------+ | COM2: BBS | sysop: Sean Azhadi | | San Diego, CA. | Internet: sysop@com2bbs.com | | 619.737.0495 BBS 12 Nodes | Info: info@com2bbs.com | | 619.737.9659 voice | | +---------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ The contents of this message do not necessarily reflect the opinions of this BBS, it's operators or sponsors... But they should. ------------------------------ From: Scragg@infi.net (Joe Eckhout) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 10:22:48 -0400 Subject: Re: BSE: EEM Hiport >Dear GTT PD Whispers: > >I am the wrong individual to be asking about replacing missiles. I >strongly suggest that you contact the EEM CEO and refer the matter to >him. > >With regards to your concern about your defense programming, my >-personal- opinion is that you can do anything you want with your >colony defense list. > >The "attack" announcememt is how EEM Security sees it. If you have >questions or concerns about EEM policy, I most strongly recommend that >you communicate your concerns directly to the EEM CEO, and not over >public channels. > >With regard to IND ships, that is part and parcel of a free Periphery, >something else that I and my former Imperial shipmates paid for, and not >in stellar taxes. > >As an aside, I offer my condolences to the Beezer family for their loss. > >Jay Seafeather >Director, EEM Security > Well put. Missile launcher arent very economical for colony defense from starships anyway. Have you ever wondered why the GTT has so many missile launchers on a planet with the EEM HQ? Hmmmmm.................. ------------------------------ End of BSE Digest V195 #148 *************************** To subscribe to bse-digest, send the command: subscribe bse-digest in the body of a message to "Majordomo@io.com". If you want to subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the "subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-bse-list": subscribe bse-digest local-bse-list@your.domain.net A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "bse-digest" in the commands above with "bse-list". Up