BSE Digest v195 #162

From: kerry@freeside.fc.net (Kerry Harrison)

Date: Mon, 01 May 1995 00:00:00 +0000

BSE Digest                 Sunday, 30 April 1995       Volume 195 : Number 162

Welcome to the BSE Digest,  the place to dicuss all the myriad aspects of
life Beyond the Stellar Empire with other denizens of the Greater Periphery.

In this issue:

+       Re: BSE: STGMap
+       BSE: Prospector wanted
+       BSE: IND BS
+       BSE: Teleporters
+       Re: BSE: IND BS
+       BSE: Responce to "Bill"
+       BSE: poker
+       BSE: IND attack in North Cape
+       BSE: IND attack on AFT
+       BSE: Responce to "Bill"
+       BSE: IND attack in North Cape
+       BSE: Strickly Roleplaying
+       Re: BSE: Responce to "Bill"

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From: Kerry Harrison <kerry@io.com>
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 12:58:05 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: BSE: STGMap

On Thu, 27 Apr 1995 LUDENDORF@delphi.com wrote:

> > CorelDraw is a nice program for all that, and yes it is a lot of work.
> > Is there a way for you to upload your templates and GIFs for others with
> > CorelDraw to download?  I'd love to see what you have done!
>
> I'll email Kerry a ZIP'd copy of my templates and cut/paste map graphics,
> so he can add it to his downloadables.
>
> Steve
>

They are now available as
ftp://ftp.io.com/pub/usr/kerry/BSE/Maps/sm-corel.zip

Kerry

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From: ccharnle@m-net148.arbornet.org (Chip Charnley)
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 95 18:09 WET DST
Subject: BSE: Prospector wanted

I am looking for a prospector willing to find FIS deposit in the Einstein
System and establish an outpost there. I am interested in something with a
minimum yield of 10. Fee is open to negotiation. If you are interested, send
me your availability and your payment desires by private mail.

Sean Retief, Governor, WCE Izac Neutin, Einstein System, Capellan Periphery

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From: Jackmyster@aol.com
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 23:48:20 -0400
Subject: BSE: IND BS

To: ALL
From: Lord Den of Earth

Gentlebeings,

At the request of the AFT's Sgt. at Arms, we have checked into the background
of the IND BS that was recently destroyed over Hammefest. Unfortunatly, we
cannot provide any additional information as to it's construction.

Upon my return to the TH, I was "given" Govonership of NeverWhere and we have
no records of any such ship was built at our shipyards.

It should be pointed out that two other FGZ colonies (at that time) could
build BS. FGZ Flagritzville and FGZ Jack's Folly. Both of these colonies were
under the control of Ruler V'Ril, so it is more than possible he built that
ship prior to his return to the FOE.

I would like to point out that the FGZ hold the construction of BSs in the
strictest of confidence, but since I have no records of this ship's
construction, I do not consider this a Flargritz ship.

IF any additional IND BSs "appear", we would like to add our ships to their
destruction. We take BS ownership (as with all FGZ tech) very seriously!

Much Honor

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From: Alan Hatcher <ZU02380@UABDPO.DPO.UAB.EDU>
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 95 00:57:30 CDT
Subject: BSE: Teleporters

Can someone give me all the lowdown on Teleporters?  How do they work exactly
and what are their limitations?

Alan Hatcher

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From: "Hendrick,Bill;=9462771" <BHENDRICK@kean.ucs.mun.ca>
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 12:55:14 +0200 (IST)
Subject: Re: BSE: IND BS

On Sat, 29 Apr 1995 Jackmyster@aol.com wrote:

> To: ALL
> From: Lord Den of Earth
>
> Gentlebeings,
>
> At the request of the AFT's Sgt. at Arms, we have checked into the background
> of the IND BS that was recently destroyed over Hammefest. Unfortunatly, we
> cannot provide any additional information as to it's construction.
>
                               {Deleled}
>
> IF any additional IND BSs "appear", we would like to add our ships to their
> destruction. We take BS ownership (as with all FGZ tech) very seriously!
>
> Much Honor
>

It is too bad the FGZ can't be responsible for their ships before they
fall into the wrong hands so they don't have to feel obligated to help
solve the problem afterward.  I suggest to every Aff either blow the BS
to bits yourselfs, if you can, or capture it as it will make a fine
addition to any fleet.  Don't depend on the FGZ as they will probably
lose half their fleet, through carelessness, just getting to your position.
I also can't believe the FGZ takes BS ownship seriously if they didn't
even know the ship existed (so they claim) or who built it.

Bill

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From: Jackmyster@aol.com
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 11:49:26 -0400
Subject: BSE: Responce to "Bill"

Excuse me???

Perhaps we should start holding the QSN responsible for the actions of SoLs?
(Whenever they actually do something.<chuckle>) How does that sound!?

Yeah, why don't you attack BSs...I'm sure any IND BS would love to blow away
a couple of little, puney, stinken SoLs. After everything I've seen, all they
are good for is cannon fodder!

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From: "JASON GOFF" <JGOF4P1@S1.csc.peachnet.edu>
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 12:51:35 EST
Subject: BSE: poker

could someone give me a lift back to dogleg?  i, er, kinda lost
my yacht.

don't EVER play poker with Noa Krieger!!!!!

Don Guido

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From: Michael.Keane@maf.nasa.gov
Date: 30 Apr 95 12:04:47 -0600
Subject: BSE: IND attack in North Cape

><transmission originating from aboard the ISP flagship, ISP Prinz Luitpoldt>
>
>To all sentient beings:
>
>As the demons, in their desperation to break the blockade have resorted to
>bringing in an IND ship (which lost it's battle), Effective Next Week, all IND
> positions will be added to the enemy list of IMP positions.  Special
>arrangements have been made, so that IND Defiance, affiliated with the FET,
>does not get targeted, nor does it need to leave.  The Empire regrets the
>inconvenience forced upon the IND starcaptains, and advises that all IND
>withdraw from Northcape, due to the chance of encountering a roving
>patrol or an ambush force.  Further, the war zone around Hammerfest is now
>extended from the space square of the planet to a distance of 3 space squares.
>All unauthorized positions found in this area will be considered valid
>targets.
>
>V.Adm. Graf von Monts
>ISP

V.Adm. Graf von Monts

The attack you are referring to was conducted with prior FOE approval.  Human
mercenaries hoping win our favor attacked the AFT.  The AFT was attacked for
passed 'injustices' according the human who contacted my staff.  I find it
interesting that the ISP refused to defend the AFT.  A yacht was destroyed in
the space square while 5 ISP DN's did nothing.  Two SoL's were engaged in orbit
and both were gutted and fled (hardly losing if the limited data the human sent
is to be believed).  It looks to be like there are at least some humans willing
to take great risks for great rewards.  Too bad they failed to cause and
significant damage (such failure is all too human).  While I can respect their
bravery, such unintelligent beings are not appropriate allies for the FOE.  The
forces on Hammerfest helping the Celtians have restrained them from attacking.
It has lead to needless deaths.  If the IMP are bound and determined to escalate
the conflict and have given up on negotiating a settlement, the troops at
Undersea Base will help the Celtians defend themselves.  A demonstration can be
arranged to prove the Celtians have at least a limit ability to strike at the
invading IMP fleet.  If a peaceful settlement is desired, please feel free to
contact me and will use what little influence that I have to help.  Fight
warriors and die bravely.

V'Ril T'Bak, Ruler FOE Target

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From: Michael.Keane@maf.nasa.gov
Date: 30 Apr 95 15:28:50 -0600
Subject: BSE: IND attack on AFT

V.Adm. Graf von Monts

The attack you are referring to was conducted with prior FOE approval.  Human
mercenaries hoping win our favor attacked the AFT.  The AFT was attacked for
passed 'injustices' according the human who contacted my staff.  I find it
interesting that the ISP refused to defend the AFT.  A yacht was destroyed in
the space square while 5 ISP DN's did nothing.  Two SoL's were engaged in orbit
and both were gutted and fled (hardly losing if the limited data the human sent
is to be believed).  It looks to be like there are at least some humans willing
to take great risks for great rewards.  Too bad they failed to cause any
significant damage (such failure is all too human).  While I can respect their
bravery, such unintelligent beings are not appropriate allies for the FOE.  The
forces on Hammerfest helping the Celtians have restrained them from attacking.
Such attacks lead to needless deaths.  If the IMP are bound and determined to
escalate the conflict and have given up on negotiating a settlement, the troops
at Undersea Base will help the Celtians defend themselves.  A demonstration can
be arranged to prove the Celtians have at least a limit ability to strike at the
invading IMP fleet.  If a peaceful settlement is desired, please feel free to
contact me and will use what little influence that I have to help.  Fight
warriors and die bravely.

V'Ril T'Bak, Ruler FOE Target

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From: LUDENDORF@delphi.com
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 16:33:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: BSE: Responce to "Bill"

Jack,

the IND BS at Hammerfest fought 2 AFT SOL's...... and lost.

Steve

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From: LUDENDORF@delphi.com
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 16:33:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: BSE: IND attack in North Cape

> and both were gutted and fled (hardly losing if the limited data the human sent
> is to be believed).

Demon,
By "lost", we mean disabled, crippled, unable to flee, trapped.  Need further
definintion?

> forces on Hammerfest helping the Celtians have restrained them from attacking.

Whips on the backs of the Celtian POW's is hardly "helping" them.  The Celtian
Resistance Movement prefers the help of the allied powers, and they seem
very eager to attack to regain their planet from the demon invaders.

>  If the IMP are bound and determined to escalate
> the conflict and have given up on negotiating a settlement, the troops at
> Undersea Base will help the Celtians defend themselves.  A demonstration
> can be arranged to prove the Celtians have at least a limit ability to strike
> at the invading IMP fleet.

Please do.  The more resources you expend beating your head against a brick
wall, the easier you make it for the Celtians to retake their home.

> If a peaceful settlement is desired, please feel free to
> contact me and will use what little influence that I have to help.

Northcape is IMP territory.  You are the invader.  You want a settlement?
Okay, pull out now and withdraw from Northcape, and your troops MIGHT
survive to fight another day.  3AD has reached 100% of it's combat assets
on the ground, and according to our Celtian Underground Liason, now
surpasses the forces you used to attack Undersea Base.  49AD is at 35%,
9th IR is at 67%.  Your time is running out.

For years we IMP refused to build a base in Northcape due to the great benefit
to all races, of the Celtian Farm tech, so that even those who were our
enemies could benefit (although there is no word in the demon language for
this, this is
called "humanitarian"... we did not wish to see any living creature suffer
from
lack of food).  Your actions have changed this.  After we retake the colony
and
return it to the Celtian race, We will build a military base on Hammerfest so
that the Celtians will never have to fear enslavement again.

Graf von Monts

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From: Jackmyster@aol.com
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 17:20:41 -0400
Subject: BSE: Strickly Roleplaying

You know, the debate about roleplaying has been raging for quite sometime. I
(and my players) have tried to maintain a "roleplaying" stance, but we've
fallen short.

I believe part of the problem is that blessed phone. Got a problem? Pick it
up and solve it. The other problem is that it takes a lot of "energy" to
approuch this game from a "role playing" stance only.

I've a great deal of respect for those "groups" who've tried to do everything
from a "roleplaying" stance, as I believe most of us do. (The EKN, SAM,
WSP...just to name a few)

So, from now on, Jack Ferguson is going to be "dead" to the game. Any
commincation to me needs to be done via Den of Earth. I will ask that
everyone try to honor this request by either e-mailing Den or USnailing him,
as I don't want to cross that "border".

Hopefully, this will increase the "enjoyment" of those who are FGZ, and those
who deal with us. (I'm hoping it will make my "gaming" more fun as well...)

This is just an honest assesment of my roleplaying in the past. Anyone is
welcomed to send me their thoughts on the idea.

Bests- (and good-bye)
Jack

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From: "Hendrick,Bill;=9462771" <BHENDRICK@kean.ucs.mun.ca>
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 23:01:34 +0200 (IST)
Subject: Re: BSE: Responce to "Bill"

On Sun, 30 Apr 1995 Den of Earth wrote:

> Excuse me???
>
> Perhaps we should start holding the QSN responsible for the actions of SoLs?
> (Whenever they actually do something.<chuckle>) How does that sound!?

If you go back and read what I said you will see that you are
misunderstanding me. What I said was "It is too bad the FGZ can't be
responsible for their ships <<<before>>> they fall into the wrong hands..."
What I was trying to get at is there must be something fishy going on in
the FGZ for this IND BS to appear.  FGZ forbiddens the trade or sale of
of BSs.  I quote a FGZ law from their profile "No Flagritz technology or
ships may be sold, traded, or transferred to any person or race other
than a Flagritz."  At this time I would like to point out that HUMANS
were in control of the ship.  If the ship were captured I would expect
the Den of Earth to know about it as they take ownership so seriously and
BSs don't appear out of the vacuum of space.  It is YOU Den of
Earth who seems feel responsible by offering to help hunt them down.
Or is it you want to make sure it is destroyed and not captured?
The main point I was trying to make is that you claim that you take BS
ownership seriously, but you didn't even notice one missing!!!!!  Maybe
we should start looking at IND colonies to see if they are actually
misplaced FGZ colonies.  Seriously though, I think the top FGZ brass
should do an inventory of their ships to see what they reallllllllllly
have.  I would be interested to know the results.  (I never will
though.)  The results may worry a few FGZ members.

>
> Yeah, why don't you attack BSs...I'm sure any IND BS would love to blow away
> a couple of little, puney, stinken SoLs. After everything I've seen, all they
> are good for is cannon fodder!
>
> J.
>
My suggestion to you Den of Earth is that if you think SoLs are so
inferior, don't buy any.

Ensign Ut

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