ATLANTISv2 atl-players-digest #57

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Date: Tue, 09 May 1995 00:00:00 +0000

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Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 09:17:33 --100
From: mickey@anacad.fr (Laurent ROCHETTE)
Subject: Re: \

>> I have info on turn checkers & sample beginning orders & a digest of
>> all the email on varied topics during the past few months.  I will
>> mail this to you if you want in return for 35$ paid in Atlantis.
>> I'll send it on review -- you pay only if you think I've saved you
>> $35 worth of worry.

Don't pay anything.
I wrote the checker, and I will give you as many informations as you want
freely.

Mickey
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From: "J.P. Harvey" <u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Double mail
Date: Tue,  9 May 1995 09:23:48 +0100 (BST)

Hi,

Am I the only player who continuously gets a double copy of every mail from
this list?

60 weekend messages doubled means a lot of time to process!

Jon.
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From: "D.J. McGaw" <u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Where's My Horse, Horace?
Date: Tue,  9 May 1995 10:15:03 +0100 (BST)

Dear All!

Someone stole my horse!!!!!

Congrats!

Regards

Dave McGaw
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From: "J.P. Harvey" <u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: changing exit
Date: Tue,  9 May 1995 10:14:16 +0100 (BST)

Geoff,

great to see an exit changing in AC! However, I am confused!

do we  A)

give orders to move SW this month, which will go to Sledmere.

then orders to move SW the following month, which will go to the new
destination.

or do we B)

give orders to move SW this month, which will go to the new destination.

then orders to move SW the following month, which will go to the new destination.

?????????????????????????

Jon.

Email Address  : u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk
World Wide Web : http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/users/u3jph/index.html
Atlantis WWW   : http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/users/u3jph/roleplay.html

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Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 09:14:28 --100
From: mickey@anacad.fr (Laurent ROCHETTE)
Subject: Re: Atlantis 2.0 - Draft of Press release to Monzon Register

>> I just dl the chekcer, when i decromess it
>> It comea out a Checker_tar
What is "dl" ?
a misspell error ?

>> How do i get the chekcer in to an exe type of file
>> and then how do i use it. Im using an ms-dos machine
you just have to type
tar xvf checker.os4.1.tar

To have this tar file form from the .gz file, you have to run
gunzip checker.os4.1.tar.gz

Of course, these version is only running on Unix system

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From: "J.P. Harvey" <u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Rob's Help
Date: Tue,  9 May 1995 11:43:14 +0100 (BST)

To help clear this up a bit. I have been in touch with Rob for a while now,
and he has given me copies of his newbie help pages to go on my web site. I
should have checked these and installed them in plain text format in the next day
or two. When revisions/ complaints have been dealt with I will convert them
tohtml.

I haven't read them all through yet, I'm just saying they are going on my
page, so I cannot defend their content or Robs activities. He seems to be able to
do that quite well himself :)

I just counted and the total document is about 7500 words long! A lot of
effort has gone into this :)

Jon.

Email Address  : u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk
World Wide Web : http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/users/u3jph/index.html
Atlantis WWW   : http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/users/u3jph/roleplay.html

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Date: Tue, 9 May 95 13:31:15 +0100
From: "Ian Vickerstaff" <ivickers@uk.oracle.com>
Subject: Kashmar Proclamation...

Greetings People,

Hear now that word has arrived in Kashmar that the Good Sorceress Jenna
Calayne has met Death as all Mages do.  She and her Order of The White Flame
have been mercilessly slain by the Free Companions who advanced on one of her
allies in Dezhou (4,18).  Rumours have abounded about who instigated the
battle and even an incorrect telling has been given in the times.

'Twas the Free Companions advance that caused the war.  Those South of Kashmar
are advised to take care in their travels as you will not be given the chance
to reason with them.

Beware......

The Shade Of Jenna Calayne.....
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From: "ROB PETERS" <RPeters@Defender.Defenders.org>
Date:          Tue, 9 May 1995 09:51:05 EST
Subject:       Re: A goof up.

Jon, I'm really glad you screwed up because I thought this was the
most amusing thing to come over the net in a long-time.  Nothing like
a document with "Top Secret" plastered being mailed to the entire
world for a good bit of humor.

> Received: from SpoolDir by DEFENDER (Mercury 1.20); 9 May 95 06:06:21 -0600
> Return-path: <owner-atl-players@tango.rahul.net>
> Received: from tango.rahul.net by Defenders.org (Mercury 1.20);
>     9 May 95 06:06:10 -0600
> Received: by tango.rahul.net id AA25792
>   (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for real-atl-players); Tue, 9 May 1995 01:19:38 -0700
> Received: from lune.csc.liv.ac.uk by tango.rahul.net with SMTP id AA25785
>   (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <atl-players@tango.rahul.net>); Tue, 9 May 1995 01:19:30 -0700
> Received: from hodder.csc.liv.ac.uk by lune.csc.liv.ac.uk
>       (8.6.10/LUCS-DTS-2.0) with ESMTP id JAA26794; Tue, 9 May 1995 09:19:15 +0100
> Received: by hodder.csc.liv.ac.uk
>     (8.6.10/LUCS-DTS-2.0D) id JAA03050; Tue, 9 May 1995 09:19:06 +0100
> From: "J.P. Harvey" <u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk>
> Subject: Re: A goof up.
> In-Reply-To: <9505071703.aa21460@post.demon.co.uk>
> To: atlantis@bluebean.demon.co.uk
> Cc: All_Atlantis_Players <atl-players@tango.rahul.net>
> Date: Tue,  9 May 1995 09:19:06 +0100 (BST)
> Message-Id: <950509091906.4250000.adc3033@hodder.csc.liv.ac.uk>
> X-Mailer: Aide de Camp Mail System [Version 0.9]
> X-PMFLAGS: 33554560
>
> > RE: the following message posted to Atlantis message.
> >
> >> > Please Review and reply with comments:
> >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > Press Release for the MONZON REGISTER:
> >> Good, send it locally ....
> >
> > This was CC'd in error by myself to the Atlantis mailing list. It is
> > part of a personal conversation and does not represent the views or
> > opinions of any of the parties concerned other than myself.
> >
> I bet you feel right lonely now ;-)
>
> Jon.
>
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Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 10:21:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: Marc Siegel <ae485@freenet.toronto.on.ca>
Subject: Re: Atlantis 2.0 - Draft of Press release to Monzon Register

On Tue, 9 May 1995, Laurent ROCHETTE wrote:

> >> I just dl the chekcer, when i decromess it
> >> It comea out a Checker_tar
> What is "dl" ?
download
> a misspell error ?
>
> >> How do i get the chekcer in to an exe type of file
> >> and then how do i use it. Im using an ms-dos machine
> you just have to type
> tar xvf checker.os4.1.tar
>
>
> To have this tar file form from the .gz file, you have to run
> gunzip checker.os4.1.tar.gz
>
> Of course, these version is only running on Unix system
>
>
Ah i see i guess thats the problem as i amn running a dos based machine

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Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 10:19:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: Marc Siegel <ae485@freenet.toronto.on.ca>
Subject: Re: \

On Tue, 9 May 1995, Laurent ROCHETTE wrote:

> >> I have info on turn checkers & sample beginning orders & a digest of
> >> all the email on varied topics during the past few months.  I will
> >> mail this to you if you want in return for 35$ paid in Atlantis.
> >> I'll send it on review -- you pay only if you think I've saved you
> >> $35 worth of worry.
>
> Don't pay anything.
> I wrote the checker, and I will give you as many informations as you want
> freely.
>
Thanks i've bene slowly getting some of the infomation i need,
> Mickey
>
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From: "J.P. Harvey" <u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: A goof up.
Date: Tue,  9 May 1995 15:03:17 +0100 (BST)

> Jon, I'm really glad you screwed up because I thought this was the
> most amusing thing to come over the net in a long-time.  Nothing like
> a document with "Top Secret" plastered being mailed to the entire
> world for a good bit of humor.
>
>
>
>> Received: from SpoolDir by DEFENDER (Mercury 1.20); 9 May 95 06:06:21 -0600
>> Return-path: <owner-atl-players@tango.rahul.net>
>> Received: from tango.rahul.net by Defenders.org (Mercury 1.20);
>>     9 May 95 06:06:10 -0600
>> Received: by tango.rahul.net id AA25792
>>   (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for real-atl-players); Tue, 9 May 1995 01:19:38 -0700
>> Received: from lune.csc.liv.ac.uk by tango.rahul.net with SMTP id AA25785
>>   (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for <atl-players@tango.rahul.net>); Tue, 9 May 1995
01:19:30 -0700
>> Received: from hodder.csc.liv.ac.uk by lune.csc.liv.ac.uk
>>       (8.6.10/LUCS-DTS-2.0) with ESMTP id JAA26794; Tue, 9 May 1995
09:19:15 +0100
>> Received: by hodder.csc.liv.ac.uk
>>     (8.6.10/LUCS-DTS-2.0D) id JAA03050; Tue, 9 May 1995 09:19:06 +0100
>> From: "J.P. Harvey" <u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk>
>> Subject: Re: A goof up.
>> In-Reply-To: <9505071703.aa21460@post.demon.co.uk>
>> To: atlantis@bluebean.demon.co.uk
>> Cc: All_Atlantis_Players <atl-players@tango.rahul.net>
>> Date: Tue,  9 May 1995 09:19:06 +0100 (BST)
>> Message-Id: <950509091906.4250000.adc3033@hodder.csc.liv.ac.uk>
>> X-Mailer: Aide de Camp Mail System [Version 0.9]
>> X-PMFLAGS: 33554560
>>
>> > RE: the following message posted to Atlantis message.
>> >
>> >> > Please Review and reply with comments:
>> >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> > Press Release for the MONZON REGISTER:
>> >> Good, send it locally ....
>> >
>> > This was CC'd in error by myself to the Atlantis mailing list. It is
>> > part of a personal conversation and does not represent the views or
>> > opinions of any of the parties concerned other than myself.
>> >
>> I bet you feel right lonely now ;-)
>>
>> Jon.
>>
>
Hey! *I* didn't screw up! Someone else did - I was taking the urine so to
speak. If you like, I *could* goof up, just for you ;-)

Jon.
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Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 18:27:05 +0300
From: Jason Robinson <ewing@mkoski.otol.fi>
Subject: Re: Double mail

On Tue, 9 May 1995, J.P. Harvey wrote:
> Am I the only player who continuously gets a double copy of every mail from
> this list?
> 60 weekend messages doubled means a lot of time to process!

A piece of advise for people mailing to teh list:
 If you wan't to send (or reply) mail to the list,
 send it to the list address and delete the address
 of the person who wrote the original mail. Mail that
 goes to the list will go to the target person anyway,
 if you CC it to them, they will get it double.

- Ewing

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Date: Tue, 9 May 95 08:49:56 PDT
From: "GDUNBAR.US.ORACLE.COM" <GDUNBAR@us.oracle.com>
Subject: Re: changing exit

--Boundary-10192662-0-0

You will move to the city that is indicated on the report. The notice
that the exit is changing is just one month's advance notice (as I
know some people move through the gates gradually).

Geoff

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X-Orcl-Content-Type: message/rfc822

Received: 09 May 1995 02:18:23                    Sent: 09 May 1995 02:18:07
From:"J.P. Harvey" <owner-atl-players@tango.rahul.net>
To: All_Atlantis_Players,atl-players@tango.rahul.net
Subject: changing exit
Cc: atlantis@rahul.net
Reply-to: owner-atl-players@tango.rahul.net
X-Orcl-Application: X-Mailer:  Aide de Camp Mail System [Version 0.9]

Geoff,

great to see an exit changing in AC! However, I am confused!

do we  A)

give orders to move SW this month, which will go to Sledmere.

then orders to move SW the following month, which will go to the new
destination.

or do we B)

give orders to move SW this month, which will go to the new destination.

then orders to move SW the following month, which will go to the new destination.

?????????????????????????

Jon.

Email Address  : u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk
World Wide Web : http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/users/u3jph/index.html
Atlantis WWW   : http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/users/u3jph/roleplay.html

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From: "D.J. McGaw" <u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Atlantis Units Wanted
Date: Tue,  9 May 1995 17:05:35 +0100 (BST)

Dear all!

I received this mail enquiring about teaching.  So for all you newbies out
there wondering what the fuss is about, here :

> On Tue, 9 May 1995, D.J. McGaw wrote:
> THanks
> Since you asked the teach command ii notve that some units offer, to
> train others for a fee, if one is taught does he still have to pay the
> normal study fee or is that waived such as if a unit offers to teach
> you for $15,.00  do you still have to pay the money to him plus the
> $10.00 per skill of studing
>

Fraid so matey!

The idea of teaching, is to decrease the time spent to learn a skill.  This
does work out better in the longrun, thus :

You study 3 months to get to level 2 in a basic skill,

Month 1 : Study Shoemaking - $10 maintenance + $10 study costs (30 days)
Month 2 : Study Shoemaking - $10 maintenance + $10 study costs (60 days)
Month 3 : Study Shoemaking - $10 maintenance + $10 study costs (90 days)

Total : $60

BUT if you are taught by someone :

Month 1 : Study Shoemaking - $10 maintenance + $10 study costs (60 days)
Month 2 : Study Shoemaking - $10 maintenance + $10 study costs (120 days)

Total : $40 plus teaching costs (say $5 per month = $10)

Final Tallies

90 days untaught - $60
120 days taught - $50

Which one do you prefer?

Basically, teachers are there to help you get better, they are losing out on
personal study time, and are usually just making maintenance - appreciate them!

Regards a-plenty

Dave McGaw
u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk

As always, any help that I can offer you, let me know! I'll see what I can do!
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From: "J.P. Harvey" <u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Skill reports required
Date: Tue,  9 May 1995 19:30:59 +0100 (BST)

Hi all,

Skill report listings have gone up on my web page today. They are very
incomplete, as I have only a few reports of myself and my friends to go on. Please
send me your skill reports, so I can add to the list. In return, if you don't
have access to the Web, I'll send you the ascii file with my complete list in
(similar method to that used by th CCC, I believe).

A friend points out that mages don't like to do their spell research in this
way, they like to be secretive. Apparently when you have researched a Kak
spell, it is embarrasing to admit it in public, and annoying if everyone else
knowsto avoid it.

If there are some public spirited mages who want to contribute, they're
welcome!

I have no mages and thus don't have this problem :)

This list will not have every contributor listed as this would be longer than
the skill report list!

regards,

Jon.

Email Address  : u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk
World Wide Web : http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/users/u3jph/index.html
Atlantis WWW   : http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/users/u3jph/roleplay.html