ATLANTISv2 atl-players-digest #61 From: csd@microplex.com (Christian Daudt) Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 00:00:00 +0000 This file was automatically generated by csd@microplex.com If you notice anything unusual, please e-tell me. You better not kill Faction 9 or this service may be discontinued.:-) Contributions in Silver will be gladly accepted. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 18:06:01 +0300 (EET DST) From: Markus Stenberg <fingon@kasvis.cs.hut.fi> Subject: Re: Stocks and Banks > The possibility of such things as banks and stock markets are what make > Atlantis appealing. Since this game is made not to be "won", but played > and enjoyed, I beleive that there is enough trust in the world to start > such operations. To anyone who would like to start such a venture, you > have my full support. I, myself, have no problem with _anything_ (well, nearly anyway) that _players_ maintain in Atlantis world ; but I _do_ oppose things that are coded into the game itself (like someone's idea of silly game-moderated lottery - I forget whose). Main problem is trust though, so I _doubt_ any such venture will happen, and I'm glad of it, too. This is bloody fantasy world, not 'Wall Street: The Atlantis Edition' (or I thought this is not, at any rate, Geoff? :->) --- Markus Stenberg |Only in the silence voice, only in the darkness light, iDL@IRC |only in dying life;The hawk's bright flight on the empty sky Finger for PGP key| -- Ursula Le Guin / (the) Earthsea Quartet ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "J.P. Harvey" <u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk> Subject: WARNING : Skill list Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 17:10:41 +0100 (BST) Hi all, this is the result of a frantic week's, pleading, negotiation, and collaboration! A very large list of all the skills in Atlantis. It isn't quite complete, but many of the skills are listed here up to level 4! I was asked to put a large amount of space before the actual list, because it can spoil the suspense for many players knowing what they can get or will get.So if you don't want to have your suspense ruined, don't read past my signature. It is taken from my web-page, and was up to date 12 May 1995. The Web page will continue to grow and the skill list there will become more complete as time passes. A small spell list exists, but is too small as yet for wide distribution. Please send me the descriptions of any spare or old spells, including what foundation(s) at what level(s) are needed to learn them... regards and thanks, Jon. 217 Email Address : u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk World Wide Web : http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/users/u3jph/index.html Atlantis WWW : http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/users/u3jph/roleplay.html ==================================================================== Armorer 1: A unit with this skill may PRODUCE chain armor from iron. Chain armor provides a 1/3 chance of surviving a successful attack in battle. No skill report for armorer 2. Armorer 3: A unit with this skill may PRODUCE plate armor from 3 units of iron. Plate armor provides a 2/3 chance of surviving a successful attack in battle. No skill report for armorer 4. ==================================================================== Carpenter 1: A unit with this skill may PRODUCE wagons from wood. A wagon, used with a horse, can carry up to 50 units of weight. No skill report for carpenter 2. No skill report for carpenter 3. ==================================================================== Combat 1: This skill gives the unit a bonus in hand to hand combat. Also, a unit with this skill may TAX or PILLAGE. No skill report for combat 2. No skill report for combat 3. ==================================================================== Entertainment 1: A unit with this skill may use the ENTERTAIN order to generate funds. The amount of silver gained will be 20 per man, times the level of the entertainers. This amount is limited by the region that the unit is in. No skill report for Entertainment 2. No skill report for Entertainment 3. No skill report for Entertainment 4. ==================================================================== Fishing 1: A unit with this skill may use the PRODUCE order to produce fish in designated regions. Fish are only available in ocean regions. ==================================================================== Herb Lore 1: A unit with this skill may use the PRODUCE order to produce herbs in designated regions. Herbs are found in many types of regions, but most frequently in jungles. Herbs may be used by units with the Healing skill, to heal units killed in battle. No skill report for Herb Lore 2. No skill report for Herb Lore 3. ==================================================================== Horse Training 1: A unit with this skill may use the PRODUCE order to produce horses in designated regions. Horses are found in plains regions. No skill report for Horse Training 2. No skill report for Horse Training 3. No skill report for Horse Training 4. ==================================================================== Longbow 1: A unit with this skill may use a longbow, either in battle, or to TAX or PILLAGE a region. No skill report for longbow 2. No skill report for longbow 3. ==================================================================== Lumberjack 1: A unit with this skill may use the PRODUCE order to produce wood in designated regions. Forest regions are generally the best producers of wood, though other regions may also produce wood. Wood may be used to construct boats, using the Shipbuilding skill, or bows, using the Weaponsmith skill. No skill report for lumberjack 2. Lumberjack 3: A unit with this skill may use the PRODUCE order to produce ironwood in designated regions (Note that Lumberjack skill of 3 is required to even determine that ironwood may be produced). Ironwood is the strongest wood known to Atlantis, and may be used by high level Shipbuilders to build armored ships. One unit of ironwood weight 10 weight units. ==================================================================== Mining 1: A unit with this skill may use the PRODUCE order to produce iron in designated regions. Iron is found primarily in mountain regions, but may also be found in other regions. The Weaponsmith skill is used to forge iron into weapons. No skill report for mining 2. ==================================================================== Observation 1: A unit with this skill can see stealthy units whose stealth rating is less than or equal to the observing unit's Observation level. The unit can also determine the faction owning a unit, provided its Observation level is higher than the other unit's Stealth level. No skill report for observation 2. No skill report for observation 3. No skill report for observation 4. ==================================================================== Riding 1: A unit with this skill, if possessing a horse, gains a bonus in combat if the battle is in a plain, desert, tundra, city, or town. This bonus is equal to the skill level, up to a maximum of 2. No skill report for riding 2. ==================================================================== Shipbuilding 1: A unit with this skill may use the BUILD order to construct ships from wood. ==================================================================== Stealth 1: A unit with this skill is concealed from being seen, except by units with an Observation skill greater than or equal to the stealthy unit's Stealth level. No skill report for stealth 2. No skill report for stealth 3. No skill report for stealth 4. ==================================================================== Tactics 1: Tactics allows the unit, and all allies, to gain a free round of attacks during battle. The army with the highest level tactician in a battle will receive this free round; if the highest levels are equal, no free round is awarded. No skill report for tactics 2. ==================================================================== Weaponsmith 1: A unit with this skill may use the PRODUCE order to produce weapons from certain items. Swords may be produced from iron, and crossbows and longbows may be produced from wood. No skill report for weaponsmith 2. Weaponsmith 3: A unit with this skill may use the PRODUCE order to produce mithril swords from mithril. Mithril swords give units a +4 bonus in combat, rather than the usual +2. No skill report for weaponsmith 4. ==================================================================== Please mail me any reports not on this list! Jon. Email Address : u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk World Wide Web : http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/users/u3jph/index.html Atlantis WWW : http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/users/u3jph/roleplay.html ---------------------------------------------------------- From: janeik@oslonett.no (Jan Eikeland) Subject: New unofficial Atlantis-www-site and New annonymous FTP-site Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 18:49:36 -0100 Hi there. I'll freshen up my Atlantis WWW-side for Atlantis rules and URL's to other WWW-sites. I'll also set up a annonymous ftp for you to get hold of my new share-utility, and to write comments to me in www-side. If you want me to include You on my URL-listing in www-side,please send me your www-adress to include in my side. Thanks for your attention. jan eikeland -ICELENDER- ------------------------------- Email : janeik@oslonett.no Web : http://www.oslonett.no/home/janeik/ Radio : LA5RT Winfax: 47-22167708 (only available after previous notice). ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 13:35:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Fuller <mfuller@gps.northrop.com> Subject: Atlantis - Mapper.gz I just download mapper.gz from the archive and got it running, however it uses a mapper.dat file containing game data. How do you get the active mapper.dat file from the game or create one if necessary. Thanks. Mark E. Fuller __ One Northrop Place |\ | _ ._ _|_ |_ ._ _ ._ /__ ._ ._ _ ._ _ _.._ Perry, Ga. 31069 | \|(_)| |_ | || (_)|_) \_| | |_|| | || | |(_|| | (912) 988-5725 | mfuller@gps.northrop.com ---------------------------------------------------------- From: janeik@oslonett.no (Jan Eikeland) Subject: Updated Atlantis WWW-page Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 21:06:05 -0100 Hi, A new Atlantis www-page is born. Look for the URL adress in my signature. Read about the comming Atlantis graphic utility: ATLANTIC. Watch picture from the utility-program. Help developing the utility by writing your comments/suggestions into the www-page. Everybody who helps in giving informations of variables in Atlantis,will be 1.st time testers if wanted. Regards -ICELENDER- ------------------------------- Email : janeik@oslonett.no Web : http://www.oslonett.no/home/janeik/ Radio : LA5RT Winfax: 47-22167708 ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Geoff Dunbar <atlantis@rahul.net> Subject: Atlantis 2.0: atl-players list Date: Sun, 14 May 95 20:28:30 -0700 This is a weekly posting for the atl-players mailing list. This list is meant for all players in the Atlantis 2.0. Mail sent to this list should be appropriate for all players of Atlantis 2.0. Rules questions should probably be sent to the moderator (atlantis@rahul.net), he can then forward the question and answer to the list. Role-playing is appropriate, but faction-to-faction email should not be sent to the list. To send mail to everyone on this list, send mail to: atl-players@tango.rahul.net Please include the word 'Atlantis' in your Subject line, so the other recipients of the list can identify your message. If you wish to be taken off of this list, just let me know, at atlantis@rahul.net. You do not need to be on this list to play Atlantis 2.0. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "J.P. Harvey" <u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk> Subject: Mailer Crash!!! Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 10:22:52 +0100 (BST) Dear All, Owing to a system fault, my mailbox was locked all weekend, so all that luverly mail you sent me was either lost or bounced (including my Turn Report). Could anyone who had important business please re-mail me? Thanx. Geoff - I don't suppose you've got the bounced version of my report you could send me have you? Sorry to be such a pain first thing on a Monday! What a start to the week :( Jon. Email Address : u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk World Wide Web : http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/users/u3jph/index.html Atlantis WWW : http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/users/u3jph/roleplay.html ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "D.J. McGaw" <u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk> Subject: Atlantis - OBS Leader for Sale Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 09:55:55 +0100 (BST) Dear All, I have another one!! ("Another what?" the masses cry out) Yep, I have another skilled leader open for the bidding. ("Stats, please!" the masses yell again) OK then, here are his stats : 1 LDR skilled in Observation Level 2 with 120 days study behind him! I work out current cost to be : Purchase : $120 Study time : $50 x 4 = $200 Maintenance Costs : undecided Total Expenditure : $320 plus maintenance However, what price can I offer you this fine leader for? ("Tell us, Dave! Tell us!" the masses exclaim again) Well in the interest of making a loss (Wow! What a business man - we'll be bankrupt in days!!!!!) I am prepared to offer you this ine figure of a man, or woman (I'm not to sureyet, It won't let me look!), for the knockdown price of .... only $225. As always, with my new idea anyway, theis is the starting price and bids are welcome! This sorta-auction-type-'o-thing, is a closed set, and all bids are made privately. I will mail the highest bidder after each bidding day, and also mail the players list saying what the last bid was! I WILL NOT BE PRICE PUSHING!!! As many people are aware, it is easy to push the price up my making bids themselves. I am not in that habit, and never have been. These sly tactics alwaysbackfire in the end, and I'll be stuck with the thing I'm trying to sell! If you are interested, which I hope you are, make me an offer! All offers are confidential, between myself and the bidder. Regards to all as always, Dave McGaw u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk Faction 266 - The Little Furry Creatures PS I welcome newbie (and oldie) enquiries. Mail me, I may just be able to help! PPS If you need anything, mail me again, I'll see what I can do! PPPS I also muck around with skills and spell descriptions, as does Jon H, although he made it public on his homepage! If you interested in swapping skill or spell ideas and descriptions, mail me again!! ---------------------------------------------------------- From: SARIKAKIS ANDREAS <andrew@ergasya.tuc.gr> Subject: Did anyone move to the West? Date: Mon, 15 May 95 13:54:14 WETDST All my units that tried to move to the west were stuck with no explanation like way is blocked or not enough movement points etc. If other players had this problem please tell me so. The working faction 181 andrew@hra.ergasya.tuc.gr ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "D.J. McGaw" <u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk> Subject: Mail Problems Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 11:43:36 +0100 (BST) Dear All, Me again - sorry for the spam! My mailbox went down on Friday, so if you sent me mail on Thursday or later, could you please resend! Thanx Dave McGaw u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 May 95 15:34:17 +0200 From: Joakim Aronius <d92joaar@und.ida.liu.se> Subject: Atlantis: Please title your posts! This list is mirrored in rec.games.pbm and those hedens playing other pbm games are getting a bit uppset. (It would be a lot easier to sort out the mailbox too!) /Joakim ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: There is only one Pieter. From: pieter@mest.unizar.es Date: Mon, 15 May 95 16:42:57 +0100 I have read an article in Times as this one: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HALLO this is Pieter speaking! I will just to say you that I will not attack any other towns agfter I have taken Menter! I am totally peacifull! All units will be alowd to enter my territorris! I will also just say you that I am not allid with ELDAR (576), vlatimer@hilbert.maths.utas.edu.au The Muppets (361), vlatimer@hilbert.maths.utas.edu.au The Holy Church of FUNDALIGIONISM (408), vlatimer... I have also NO contact to any of ther other players from SPain!!!!! Especially I do not know who who Prophet Followers (251), moustafa@mest.unizar.es is, who claims that hex south of Menter. I also allow you to come to the hex I claimes. Just tell me beforre moving in! Pieter@mest.unizar.es -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- But if you are an intelligent guy, you will read another one as the next, which is signed by Pieter too: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hola a todos. En vista de la paliza que me han dado, creo que sera mejor que me dedique a la poesia muda o a peinar calvos. Desafortunadamente, Geoff no ha creado todavia estos skills, por lo que seguire dando guerra por estos mundos de Dios. Esta tarde me voy a Paris a ver la final de la Recopa, aprovechare para quedar con alguno de los jugadores franceses. Aupa el Zaragoza!! Pieter. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Those are the reasons: - Yes, I wrote Times last week. - I wrote the smaller mail, and it was wroten in spanish. - My english is bad, but the english of the other message is horrible. - My faction number is 335. So, in Times, it is located in a position of that number. While the other mail it is located between 540 and 650 faction number position. - I never sign my mails with that sign. So I say: - I wrote the smaller article, which is wroten in spanish. - I do not wrote the long article, which is wroten in english. - I want a revenge, because someone has used my name and my email adress without my aprobation. He, or she needs a lesson for using his (her) own name in his (her) messages. That player must be brave to accept the consecuences of his (her) acts. - I have send this mail to Geoff, and I hope that he expulses of the game to that player. Pieter. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 15 May 1995 11:06:21 -0400 From: "Stuart Miller" <stuart_miller@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu> Subject: Atlantis...and Arsenal ? Subject: Time:11:49 AM OFFICE MEMO Atlantis...and Arsenal ? Date:5/15/95 Happy Beltaine.....not for us "Gooners" however.....thank you Oscar Rubio (Times) for your considerate letter of consolation to those of us in mourning. I can only hope that messers Parlour , Hartson ("what no penalty") and Wright ("what no penalty either ") will also be recieving such a considerate letter. Of all things....to lose in the final seconds by a goal scored from how far out !...by who ! Nayim....an ex-Spurs player ! Watchers of The Mournful Mound (how ironically appropriate). ---------------------------------------------------------- From: "D.J. McGaw" <u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk> Subject: OBS Leader Sale Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 17:36:00 +0100 (BST) Dear All, I apologise to all and sundry if you have received this, or a similar mail before, by my mail system, indeed the entire mail network in Liverpool, went downon Friday, and I'm unsure what went out, and what should have come in. The first part of this message is basically, if you sent me mail, please resend! The second part is actually concerned with Atlantis! I have a LDR trained in OBS to level 2 with 120 days, for sale, as promised toeveryone in a previous mail a few weeks back. It is a good deal, and the asking price is only $225. However, this is an auctioning scenario, and I have had an offer for $250 waiting to be confirmed. Any interested parties are welcome to bid to me at u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk A brief note, I am asking money, not goods for this guy! (I have had offers ofHEL's, horses, swords and wagon already, which I don't really have much need for as of yet). If you can match or beat $225 (or $250 if the first bid comes through) then I will tell you if you are the highest bidder to date! This auction will continue through the week, and I will mail the list regarding the highest bid to date. All bids are anonymous! Thanx for your attention. Regards as ever Dave McGaw u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk Faction 266 ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 13:40:14 -0400 From: Timothy Ireland <tireland@mc1adm.uwaterloo.ca> Subject: (Atlantis)The owner of 6,16 PLease get in touch with me... Aelric Up