ATLANTISv2 atl-players-digest #66

From: csd@microplex.com (Christian Daudt)

Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 00:00:00 +0000

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Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 02:20:52 +1200 (NZST)
From: Peter Fleming <pfleming@eros.otago.ac.nz>
Subject: Re: Combat Arena?/Re: Trolls

DUELS
> Another possibility is a new command, DUEL which must be given by both
> parties for a duel to occur. No one else would be allowed to participate
> in the combat unless they were stated in all the other participants duel
> commands.
Yeah, that way armies could have champions duking it out.
choice
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Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 14:49:39 -0500
From: jobollin@iumsc4.chem.indiana.edu (John Bollinger)
Subject: Re:  Atlantis Duel

>I think the DUEL order would  be very useful.  If you feel a unit has
>wronged your faction a duel could be fought.
>
>DUEL would allow a small fight to take place in an area controled by a large
>army.
>
>A matter of Honour could be resolved with this order.
>
>No prize should be given just the 50% of goods (maybe 100%)
>
>Dean B.

This is the most sensible implementation of DUEL that has yet been suggested.
My guess is that the command would not be much used, but it would also not
require much extra code.  Anyone who wants to bet would have to arrange it
in a role-playing sense, and that is fine by me.

John Bollinger
Melvin's Marauders (105)

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Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 16:09:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Thanatos <smellack@cts.com>
Subject: Please remove me...

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From: tim.hruby@his.com
Date: Thu, 18 May 95 16:32:01
Subject: CCC delay

Due to a hard drive crash, the CCC report will be delayed until tomorrow, most
likely.  It currently appears that I will be able to recover it, but I also
have to recover the rest of my data and restore my system to life.

Sorry for any inconvience, but this just plain sucks.  Fortunately, back-ups
aren't too old.

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Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 16:30:17 +1000 (EST)
From: Voytek <vlap@ecr.mu.oz.au>
Subject: Re: Atlantis Duel

On Thu, 18 May 1995, John Bollinger wrote:

> >I think the DUEL order would  be very useful.  If you feel a unit has
> >wronged your faction a duel could be fought.
> >
> >DUEL would allow a small fight to take place in an area controled by a large
> >army.
> >
> >A matter of Honour could be resolved with this order.
> >
> >No prize should be given just the 50% of goods (maybe 100%)

or maybe a prearranged amount included in the DUEL command itself.

Of course, DUELS would often lead to all out war when someone is a sore
loser :). But that would just make life interesting.

I agree that betting should be role played, theres no point coding it in
as it wouldn't work as well anyway. Like I said though, it would be good
if all duels were announced in the times and there was some kind of
bookie person so that the betting was centralised. There could be a lot
of money to be made for that person if the odds were set correctly.

Voytek.
the many who are One (631)

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Date: Fri, 19 May 95 09:54:43 BST
From: dean@memex.co.uk (Dean Burton)
Subject: Re: Atlantis Duel

>>
>> I think the DUEL order would  be very useful.  If you feel a unit has
>> wronged your faction a duel could be fought.
>>
>> DUEL would allow a small fight to take place in an area controled by a large
>> army.
>>
>> A matter of Honour could be resolved with this order.
>>
>> No prize should be given just the 50% of goods (maybe 100%)
>>
>> Dean B.
>>
>>
>  Do you think that everybody would accept a duel?
>  (When he is inferior of course)
>  Faction 181
>

A vastly weaker units would not accept a duel unless they wanted to die.

The duel order would be for units who wished to take a chance.  You may not
know all the abilities of your apponent.  This would make the duel more
interesting.

What id Geoffs reaction to this line of thought.

Dean B.

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Date: Fri, 19 May 95 10:29:32 BST
From: dean@memex.co.uk (Dean Burton)
Subject: Atlantis Mages

HELP  I am a mage with a great need to get myself and a non mage ally out of
komarken.  I need the PORTAL 3 spell.  If you are a kindly mage that as the
knowledge of the foundations needed for this spell please inform this poor
frightened mage.

Thanks

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From: "D.J. McGaw" <u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: OBS Leader Sale
Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 13:41:31 +0100 (BST)

I apologise if you received this mail earlier, but I had a mail crash as soon
as I hit SEND so I'm mailing this again just in case!

Thanx to everyone involved in the OBS LDR sale/auction.  It was a tremendous
success as I gain $350 and the highest bidder gains a skilled LDR.

All bids are therefore closed, so DON'T MAIL ME ANYMORE!

Regards

Dave
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From: "D.J. McGaw" <u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Buying Crap
Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 13:23:35 +0100 (BST)

>>You start with one leader! You didn't buy him!!!
>>
>>If you have insufficient funds, the WHOLE order fails! It's that simple!
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Dave
>
>
> Merry Meeting!
>
> No I made 3 new units each requesting 10 LDR and in each one
> I recieved 1 LDR and an error that said they couldn't afford to buy
> thier requested amount.
>
> Blessed Be!
>
> Guild of the Tesseract (556)
> Member of TRUST
>
>

Mail me your first turn so I know what you are talking about! It has to be
noticed that the first turn was FULL of bugs that Geoff has since fixed.  One of
them may have been a buy order for the first turn!

In any regard, NOW if the unit doesn't have sufficient funds to buy the
requested amount, the WHOLE order fails, so don't spew balloney!

This is correct, and current, standing on the buy order - Read ot and Weep!!!

Regards to all

Dave
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From: "D.J. McGaw" <u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: OBS LEADER SALE
Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 13:39:00 +0100 (BST)

Hello again all,

In regard to the Observation LDR I was selling. At $350 I can't pass it up
andnoone has bid since, therefore he has gone! ("Aaaarrrr")

Thanx to all bidders making this a successful auction for all concerned!

Regards as ever

Dave
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From: "Raymond Savoie" <savoier@Umoncton.CA>
Date:          Fri, 19 May 1995 11:25:48 +0000
Subject:       Atlantis Order Submission

Newbie help please!

What kind of feedback can I expect from the order processor can I
expect when I submit my weekly orders?  I sent mine in a couple days
ago and I've yet to get a reply.  Should I expect a confirmation?

Thanks,
  Ray

Raymond Savoie, P.Eng.        EMail: savoier@umoncton.ca
Design Engineer                 Tel: (506) 858-4153
CADMI Microelectronics          Fax: (506) 858-4075
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Date: Fri, 19 May 95 07:50:21 PDT
From: "GDUNBAR.US.ORACLE.COM" <GDUNBAR@us.oracle.com>
Subject: Re:       Atlantis Order Submission

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As of this point, you get no feedback at all. This is a problem that
I'm working on. Note that you can send multiple copies of your orders,
so if you want to make certain they get through, sending them a few
times might be a good idea.

Geoff

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Subject:       Atlantis Order Submission
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Newbie help please!

Thanks,
  Ray

Raymond Savoie, P.Eng.        EMail: savoier@umoncton.ca
Design Engineer                 Tel: (506) 858-4153
CADMI Microelectronics          Fax: (506) 858-4075

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Date: Fri, 19 May 95 07:22:09 PDT
From: "GDUNBAR.US.ORACLE.COM" <GDUNBAR@us.oracle.com>
Subject: Re: Buying Crap

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Uh, Dave... You seem so sure of yourself. I'm tempted to run out and
change the source code due to the force of your opinion. However, as
it stands now, you're wrong.

BUY orders that request more than the unit can afford are trimmed down
to the number that you can afford. They do generate an error message,
but do not fail completely.

Geoff

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Subject: Buying Crap
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In any regard, NOW if the unit doesn't have sufficient funds to buy the
requested amount, the WHOLE order fails, so don't spew balloney!

This is correct, and current, standing on the buy order - Read ot and Weep!!!

Regards to all

Dave

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Date: Fri, 19 May 95 07:33:15 PDT
From: "GDUNBAR.US.ORACLE.COM" <GDUNBAR@us.oracle.com>
Subject: Re: Atlantis Duel

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Hi.

Regarding the Duel command, it doesn't really seem to be within the
spirit of Atlantis. It isn't really a small scale game. It would be
fairly easy to put in though.

This discussion should really be on the design list rather than
here though.

Geoff

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From:"Dean Burton" <owner-atl-players@tango.rahul.net>
To: All_Atlantis_Players,atl-players@tango.rahul.net,u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk,atlantis@rahul.net
Subject: Re: Atlantis Duel
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A vastly weaker units would not accept a duel unless they wanted to die.

The duel order would be for units who wished to take a chance.  You may not
know all the abilities of your apponent.  This would make the duel more
interesting.

What id Geoffs reaction to this line of thought.

Dean B.

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Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 08:38:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Joseph J. Strout" <jstrout@UCSD.EDU>
Subject: Atlantis Cartographers?

Respectful Greetings,

I am but a humble lad, soon leaving the comforts of hearth and
home to seek my place in the world.  But, tho' I look here and poke
there, I am unable to find even the crudest map of the land.  The land
claims office names some hexes with their political affinities -- this
would allow me to construct a rough political map, but it seems premature
when I do not even know the locations of the major cities.  Are there no
cartographers charting the land?

Your Humble Servant,
					Shikkari
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