ATLANTISv2 atl-players-digest #78

From: csd@microplex.com (Christian Daudt)

Date: Thu, 01 Jun 1995 00:00:00 +0000

I thought I was going to get thousands of responses asking me
to keep this digest (maybe I just wanted to massage my ego ;-))
But I received enough responses, so I'll keep the digest going.
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Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 17:08:49 -0400
From: roy@acasun.eckerd.edu (Jonathan Roy)
Subject: Re: New Atlantis Player Seeking Allies and Help

It'd be neat if better riding skill lets your men move farther on horseback,
but who knows. :)

Maye riding level 3 or 5 allows riding bouns to combat for land types
not normally allowed. Who knows?

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Date: Wed, 31 May 95 12:06:24 PDT
From: kbrors@mindscape.com
Subject: ATLANTIS - to unit 3585

To the Owner of 3585 near Spakker.

The Confedration will moving into this hex in numbers
          this turn please move on. Contact kbrors@mindscape.com.

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Date: Wed, 31 May 95 13:59:28 PDT
From: "GDUNBAR.US.ORACLE.COM" <GDUNBAR@us.oracle.com>
Subject: Re: Atlantis: combat questions

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> in combat if you attack another person and
> have troops/allies in adjoining hexes will
> they join in the fight? or does this only
> apply if you are the defender?
>

Here's how it works:

First, all the factions in the battle hex are examined. On
the defensive side will be your faction, and any factions
that are allied to you. The exception is if your allies
are avoiding. On the attacking side will be all faction
who wish to attack the target units.

Then, any factions _already involved_ in the battle will
pull in units from adjacent hexes, where possible.

> also: can you set Guard if non-allied
> units are in your hex?
>

Yes. Only city (and town) guard prevent you from going on
guard.

> and:
> if default attitude is unfriendly,
> you move a unit into a hex and discover
> other units, can you declare nuetral
> before being committed to combat
> by your old default attitude.

Default attitude of unfriendly does not ever initiate an
autoattack. I assume you meant hostile? In this case, no,
the battle will take place right after the movement phase,
when the hostile units can see each other.

Geoff

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Anyone know the answers to these questions?

>
> in combat if you attack another person and
> have troops/allies in adjoining hexes will
> they join in the fight? or does this only
> apply if you are the defender?
>
> also: can you set Guard if non-allied
> units are in your hex?
>
> and:
> if default attitude is unfriendly,
> you move a unit into a hex and discover
> other units, can you declare nuetral
> before being committed to combat
> by your old default attitude.
>
> TV Guide
>
>

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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 03:03:03 -0400
From: roy@acasun.eckerd.edu (Jonathan Roy)
Subject: Fur production?

Can you hunt in any territory, or must "fur" be on the list of
producable goods? I'm in the land of no forests as far as the eye can
see, which negates the Nature foundation, it seems, and might
limit my ability to have fun with hunting.

THanks. :)

(There got to be something to hunt down in the mountains!)
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From: Mark Keen <mark@keen.demon.co.uk>
Date:          Thu, 1 Jun 1995 10:37:23 +0000
Subject:       Re: Calling Atlantis Police

Hi.

Is everyone sure that the Times articles are ordered by faction
number?

I've heard this several times, but it's never been officially
confirmed...

Personally I don't think they are... I have an ally whose faction
number is so low that there are MORE articles before his in the times
than his faction number!

Jon's article faction (217) also comes before his, yet my ally has a
faction number of less than 50!

Sorry to ruin your meticualous investigations, but methinks you
should go back to the drawing board...

Regards
Mark
Ershwin's Troop - Faction (399)

> Dean Burton (dean@memex.co.uk) wrote:
> >
> > Who are you?
> >
> >
> >
> The Atlantean Police department has a faction number between 603 and 627,
> justby looking at the times articles surrounding it.
>
> The following factions have units in Atlantis City.
>
> ...
>
> 604
> 609
> 610
> 611
> 614
> 616
> 618
> 619
> 622
> 624
> 625
> 627
>
> ...
>
> So from this we can PROVE that they don't know what they are talking about.
>
> You need OBS 4 to see a thief in Atlantis City, because the guards have OBS 3
> and stop all thievery below that point.
>
> OBS 4 requires 1+2+3+4 = 10 months of study. There have only been about 18
> months in the game so far (apart from January of course!), which means that
> barring no failed orders, you would have had to have joined the game on or before
> turn 8 to have that level of OBS.
>
> I don't think that those people with 600+ faction ID joined this early {I
> could be wrong!}. So we can be confident that their times article is just a load
> of propeganda.
>
> Just to top it off, I've got OBS 5 and the mind reading spell in Atlantis
> City, and can see every thief there is and what colour underwear they are wearing
> today ;-) NONE of the people on that list are amongst the active thieves in
> Atlantis City.
>
> hope this helps clear the names of all the innocents on that list!
>
> byeeee...
>
> Jon. 217. House Banshee of the DOMINION.
>
> Email Address  : u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk
> World Wide Web : http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/users/u3jph/index.html
> Atlantis WWW   : http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/users/u3jph/Atlantis/index.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From: "Michal Stehlik" <STEHLIK@frode.dcit.cz>
Date:          Thu, 1 Jun 1995 13:18:02 MET-1DST
Subject:       Re: Fur production?

> Can you hunt in any territory, or must "fur" be on the list of
> producable goods? I'm in the land of no forests as far as the eye can
> see, which negates the Nature foundation, it seems, and might
> limit my ability to have fun with hunting.
>
> THanks. :)

Furs must be in list of producable goods.

> (There got to be something to hunt down in the mountains!)

You can hunt in any region; unfortunately, you will gain nothing when
hunting in mountains.
Forests are not the only region, capable of producing furs; try
tundras:)

Michal
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From: "J.P. Harvey" <u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: New Atlantis Player Seeking Allies and Help
Date: Thu,  1 Jun 1995 14:14:52 +0100 (BST)

Jonathan Roy (roy@acasun.eckerd.edu) wrote:
>
>
> It'd be neat if better riding skill lets your men move farther on horseback,
> but who knows. :)
>
> Maye riding level 3 or 5 allows riding bouns to combat for land types
> not normally allowed. Who knows?
>
>
Well no-one has donated that info for my WWW list, so I don't know either. SOMEONE must know :) Can they let us all know? If not I'll find out in a turn or
two.

Jon.

aka Lord Viper and Lady Venom.

House Banshee of the DOMINION.

Email Address  : u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk
World Wide Web : http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/users/u3jph/index.html
Atlantis WWW   : http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/users/u3jph/Atlantis/index.html

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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 14:10:17 +0100 (BST)
From: "M.L. Wilson" <M.L.Wilson@newcastle.ac.uk>
Subject: Enqut.

Could s'one tell me where the latest enqut is stored - I lost the ftp address
Thanks
Steve Dillon

email:           m.l.wilson@ncl.ac.uk
Atlantis site:   http://www.ncl.ac.uk/~n264946/new/

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From: "FReDRiK RaMSBeRG (WILdcARD)" <d91frera@und.ida.liu.se>
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 95 16:05:16 +0200
Subject: Giving away units

Hi!

If I give a unit to another faction, using (GIVE 2001 UNIT), which one of
us should give the unit orders of what to do for that turn? Me, the new
owner, both, both but for different parts of the turn, or maybe it's even
impossible?

And if the new owner is to issue orders for that unit, how should
he refer to it? Simply by its number?

If the unit starves, what units will give it money, or what unclaimed money
will be available to it?

These are VERY important questions to me, as I don't want a level 3 unit to
starve to death or anything.

/Fredrik

--------------------------------------------
 ! Fredrik Ramsberg, LiTH, Linkoping, Sweden. !
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 ! I'm so broke, I can't even pay attention.  !
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 16:12:46 +0200
From: "Michael O. Akinde" <strategy@kom.auc.dk>
Subject: Re: Calling Atlantis Police

> Is everyone sure that the Times articles are ordered by faction
> number?

Times Articles are NOT ordered by faction numbers. I`m faction number 93,
and my articles are nearly always the last in the Times. Only articles from
Major Hatred are placed below mine.

Regards,

The Legate,
Dragon Legion(93).
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 95 15:46:08 +0100
From: "Ian Vickerstaff" <ivickers@uk.oracle.com>
Subject: ATLANTIS: Kashmar High Elf Auction

Greetings Denizens of Kashmar,

I, Cassandra Mystara, of The Order of The White Flame, have four untrained
High elves in this fair city and I am offering them for auction.

I am looking for bids of 150 Silver or over.  Parties concerned will be
notified what the highest bid currently stands at on a daily basis.  The
intention is to complete the deal in next weeks turn so the deadline
for bids is Wednesday 7th June.

Kind Regards,

Cassandra Mystara (Faction 665)

AKA ivickers@uk.oracle.com
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 08:33:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Matt Ho <matt@ecstasy.xtreme.com>
Subject: Re: Calling Atlantis Police

unsubscribe

Matt Ho                                          PGP key available on request.
Xtreme Realities
<URL:http://www.xtreme.com/>

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From: "J.P. Harvey" <u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Calling Atlantis Police
Date: Thu,  1 Jun 1995 17:07:25 +0100 (BST)

>> Is everyone sure that the Times articles are ordered by faction
>> number?
>
> Times Articles are NOT ordered by faction numbers. I`m faction number 93,
> and my articles are nearly always the last in the Times. Only articles from
> Major Hatred are placed below mine.
>
> Regards,
>
> The Legate,
> Dragon Legion(93).
>
That surprises me more than a little! Geoff, could you rule on this?

Jon.

aka Lord Viper and Lady Venom.

House Banshee of the DOMINION.

Email Address  : u3jph@csc.liv.ac.uk
World Wide Web : http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/users/u3jph/index.html
Atlantis WWW   : http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/users/u3jph/Atlantis/index.html

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From: "D.J. McGaw" <u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Giving away units
Date: Thu,  1 Jun 1995 17:25:04 +0100 (BST)

>
> Hi!
>
> If I give a unit to another faction, using (GIVE 2001 UNIT), which one of
> us should give the unit orders of what to do for that turn? Me, the new
> owner, both, both but for different parts of the turn, or maybe it's even
> impossible?
>
> And if the new owner is to issue orders for that unit, how should
> he refer to it? Simply by its number?
>
> If the unit starves, what units will give it money, or what unclaimed money
> will be available to it?
>
>
> These are VERY important questions to me, as I don't want a level 3 unit to
> starve to death or anything.
>
> /Fredrik
>

When you give a unit, (assume that it is you that does the giving) you give
the orders to that unit before the turn. The most usually one is simply WORK as
this will keep the unit intact. ie :

UNIT 123

GIVE 456 UNIT
WORK

The faction who owns unit 456 will take over the orders for unit 123 in the
next turn!!!

As for who claims the dosh? Probably the giving faction, so set them to work,
or you'll loose out on the money stached in the bank!

Regards

Dave
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 13:04:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Barclay Ittner <jbi2@columbia.edu>
Subject: selling leaders in AC

Is anyone interested in selling a leader or two in AC to me.  I want to
recruit them but think thte odds are low of getting one.  Can you sell me
one or two?

Captian Barclay