ATLANTISv2 atl-players-digest #86

From: csd@microplex.com (Christian Daudt)

Date: Thu, 08 Jun 1995 00:00:00 +0000

I thought I was going to get thousands of responses asking me
to keep this digest (maybe I just wanted to massage my ego ;-))
But I received enough responses, so I'll keep the digest going.
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 17:41:47 +0200
From: Ole Guttorm Jensen <guttorm@kom.auc.dk>
Subject: Wand of Fire

Greetings!

And the auction in Atlantis City continues...

I have received quite a few offers of 500 silver and one of 501 silver (very funny), but to days leading offer is 600 silver (as there was only one offer of this ammount the faction in question now know that it leads the race. Congratulations!).

But you still have a chance to beat this offer!
Remember that you by dazzling an average of 26 enemies gets the same advantage as having 26 swords and their cost is about 3000 silver!

Send your offer to:

guttorm@kom.auc.dk
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From: "D.J. McGaw" <u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Temp Message Please Delete
Date: Wed,  7 Jun 1995 17:44:36 +0100 (BST)

I've been having hassles with my mail box, so if you get this mail twice (or
more) mail me!

Dave

u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk

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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 18:17:34 +0100
From: Tony Sheldon <cs0u308d@liverpool.ac.uk>
Subject: Atlantis Request and Sales

Dear all, particularly everyone in the Kashmar region.

I am aiming to move southwards to hex 3,19, so I would appreciate if anyone
who doesn't want me to move there, to mail me and let me know why.

I am NOT a war faction, I will be Magic/Trade this turn, and I am offering
the following services :

Wagon Enchantment .. cost to be decided, Wands of Fire .. cost to be
decided, and other gadgets to come when I decide that I'm going to sell
them.

If you have any interest in these two services, let me know! I will produce
other items soon, but for the moment, I am keeping them to myself!

Final note, due to the amazing properties of these items, you will be
looking at prices around $500 and up!

Thanks for your time

Tony Sheldon
(cs0u308d@liverpool.ac.uk)
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From: "D.J. McGaw" <u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Atlantis - The trial of Tiny.
Date: Wed,  7 Jun 1995 17:37:16 +0100 (BST)

> CASE FOR THE PROSECUTION
>
> Every week we hear the same old pleas of innocence from Tiny the
> mage. And every week we see his name appear on the list of
> 'potential' thieves and assassins of The Atlantis Police Department.
>
> When will this circular debate end? Why does Tiny object to being
> called a 'potential' theif/assassin?
>
> I will now tell you why... he obviously has something to hide!
>

WRONG! with a capital R!

Tiny is a mage that is simply getting plagued by the SO CALLED police. From
what I have gathered together, they have no way of spotting any so called
thieves and assassins as they have VERY LOW OBS!

How can they say who is and isn't! I wouldn't be surprised if I or you end up
on the list next!

Regards

Dave
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From: "D.J. McGaw" <u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Atlantis City Demands
Date: Wed,  7 Jun 1995 17:34:22 +0100 (BST)

> You wrote:
>>
>>Is there anyone out there in AC wanting to buy leaders this turn?
>>If you are planning on buying any leaders, can you mail me and let me
>>know howmany. From this I willl mail back the list and let you know
>>the demand as it stands. From this you may want to modify your
>>request, or just give up.
>>
>
> I'ld like to get one leader, but I'm new to the game, so I have no clue
> how many I'ld actually have to bid for to get that lone fellow.
>
>

This is why I asked for a response to help everyone starting up! I AM NOT
GOING TO BUY A LEADER THIS TURN! I've decided not to!

I have had an overwhelming response from TWO people who are going to ask for
7LDR's between them! This is some kind of start I suppose.

I've virtually given up on this! I am trying to help the newbies by being a
mediator to working out the demand for you, but I'm not getting anywhere!

If someone else wants to try and work out the demand, go ahead. I quit!

Regards

Dave
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From: "D.J. McGaw" <u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Hmmm,some questions... (fwd)
Date: Wed,  7 Jun 1995 17:29:57 +0100 (BST)

>
> Okie,I'm starting out in Atlantis this turn and have a couple of
> questions yet left unanswered:
>
>    i) I a unit has 0$ but the faction still has some unclaimed money is it
> necessary to claim the money in order not to die of hunger,or will
> the unit claim the money automatically?
>

The unit will claim any money available to prevent themselves from dying!
Notethat if you don't give them any orders, they will work anyway! (If you try
andstudy without covering maintenance, then the order will fail - they WILL NOT
claim money for this!)

>    ii) When you create a new unit it will,by default (well,no
> experience here,but the manual says so :) ) work.Do ALL units work by
default,
> that is,does any unit that is not given any order (even after the first
> turn it was created...) work,or is that just valid for NEWLY created units.
> ok,thats it,thanks in advance for your answers
>

See above!

> --
>
> -AJRendas
>
Regards

Dave
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 10:36:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Joseph J. Strout" <jstrout@UCSD.EDU>
Subject: spells wanted

Most heartfelt greetings,
	Two of my Clan are in ready to learn spells.  Normally this would
cost us each $100 and a month's work.  Silver is precious, but so too is
time.  Therefore, we would be willing to pay up to $120 to any mage who
will give us an appropriate spell.  This is a great deal for you, because
it costs you no time -- it is, as they say, easy money.  And it is a good
deal for us, because it saves us time and costs only a little extra money.

The spells we require are those castable with Body 1, *OR* with Energy 1
(but not requiring both).  All offers being equal, we will accept the
first mage to respond.  Of course, if you wish to undercut the competition,
we will of course remain open to cheaper offers until tomorrow morning.

Many thanks for your time and consideration of

Your Humble Servant,
					Shikkari

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From: John Charles Broomfield <jbroom@encomix.es>
Subject: -sigh- I've botched up!
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 19:27:36 +0000 (GMT)

Hi there! I've done the following:
formed a unit, given it some money and a horse, and moved it from the
location where I am WITHOUT GIVING IT A PERSON!!!
My question is what happens to it?
-the game forgets about it (therefore I've lost it)
-the unit stays in the same place next turn (so I could now give it a man
and start doing something
-or...???

The report has returned the number of the unit, however I haven't got a
report for the new location of the unit, nor do I "see" the unit at my
location.
Answers here, or straight back to me!
Thanks in advance.
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From: "D.J. McGaw" <u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Atlantis  New players Questions
Date: Wed,  7 Jun 1995 17:27:24 +0100 (BST)

> Hello All!,
>
>     I am a new player to this PBM and have spent ages trying to figure out
> the rules!.Finally i think i have come close to understanding them but i
> will no doubt send about 6 wrong orders before i get it right!.
> Ok....what i need to know:
>
> 1)..Can you do 2 month long orders each turn?...like move/advance and work?

Nope! Obviously a month long order takes a month to do, so how can you do two
months worth of orders in only one month? (Have you found the Time Machine
Spell???)

> 2)..must you claim money before using it in orders list...ie. can you list
> your     orders..buy:whatever followed by claim:whatever. Basically..can you
> use money you       haven't claimed?

Strange question. I read it as in two parts :

a) What the order of the turn processed in?
b) Can you buy without claiming the money?

Well, the orders are read in and processed in the order specified in the
rules(that is claim before buy). So no matter where you put the claim order in
yourturn, it will get processed before the buy.

Secondly, You can't buy anything without the resources to do it! IE you can't
buy items or men with supposed money you are GOING to claim.

> 3)..if my orders are incorrect will they get sent back or just ignored?

Ignored. If an order is incorrect, it will give you an error in your report.

> 4)..how long for each turn?...1 week?

Usually 1 week, yes!

> 5)..Why are people mailing this list asking for people to contact them when
> all they have to do is use the "find" command to get an e-mail address?

People sometimes change address in the middle of the game which is not
immediately put on the list. Usually in dire conditions, it's easier to simply mail
the list than sift through all the names/addresses in the player file and
stillget the wrong address.

In other cases, the list messages say things like, "Whoever owns hex x,y
please contact me" IE I don't know who owns this area so please contact me!

> 6)..Am i likely to get killed quickly if i just wander around?

Not yet!!!

> 7)..I start in Atalntis...if i move north or whatever do i leave Atlantis
> and am in danger in the wilderness?

When you move from AC, you end up another city, again with City guards to
protect you. Here you are safe, for a while (There are factions ready to kill the
guards in the surrounding areas, so again beware).

The wilderness does hold some dangers, wandering monsters, other factions, so
just keep a small band of warriors at the front (with the BEHIND 0 order) and
keep your wits about you.

> 8)..What should a starting character do exactly to get off the ground(not
> literally!)?.

I would say the first aim is to make yourself self-sufficient. You will need
about 4 to 5 men for every leader. Your men can work, (at about $15 each -
approx) and the excess $5 can support your leader. From here, the world and the
decisions are yours to explore.

> 9)..Are all these questions annoying you? :)
>

Not at all. Mail me again if you need help in any way. (I am trying to write
astart up guide, so if you have any questions, you will be helping both of us!)

> Right...thats it for about 10 seconds...then i will have thought of about
> 100 other questions to ask!!..

OK! Keep 'em coming!

> Thanks to anyone who bothers to reply to this!.
>

Any time!

> Eoin.
> **********************************************
> Exactly what is the plural of "sheep"?.      *
>                                              *

"Sheep"

> Answers on a postcard to the address below:  *
> Eoinmag@internet-eireann.ie                  *
> Thanks and goodnight :)                      *
> **********************************************
>
>

Regards to all

Dave
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Subject: Good Citizens Report
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 1995 12:39:15 -0700
From: Anson Winsor <apwinsor@span.CS.UNLV.EDU>

Greetings to all:
This is a public notice for report of Good Standing for DARKSTAR.

DARKSTAR

- Baldwin Butterbrains (624), House of Nightsword (568), avoiding,
  behind, leader.
- Baldwins Men at Arms (3325), House of Nightsword (568), high elf.
- Lord Clieye Nightsword (3539), House of Nightsword (568), leader.

These citizens of Atlantis do pay their debts and have a good reputation
of paying debts and fulfilling obligations.

TTT
Anson Winsor          apwinsor@cs.unlv.edu
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 19:55:16 -0500 (CDT)
From: Bill Christ <bchrist@wins0.win.org>
Subject: Looking for Alantis City Teachers

I'm looking for teachers in the arts of tactics and observation to train
two of my leaders.  Both are currently level one.  If you can help give
me ring.

Jolly (654)

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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 95 08:43:08 +0100
From: "Ian Vickerstaff" <ivickers@uk.oracle.com>
Subject: ATLANTIS: Kashmar High Elf Auction

Greetings,

The Kashmar Auction for four untrained High Elves has now closed.  This
highest bidder will be notifed in due course.

Kind Regards,

Cassandra Mystara of The House Mystara (Faction 665)

Precentor of The Order of The White Flame
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 95 10:47:54 +0200
From: Francisco.Natek@uv.es (Francisco Jose Natek Pradas)
Subject: ATLANTIS: Return to AC

Hello everybody:

Can someone tell me if is possible return to AC once I go out from
the city ?
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 09:58:21 GMT
From: Anthony.Chow@cet.co.jp (Anthony Chow)
Subject: ATLANTIS 2.0

Rosenfeild: Ave, Guildenstern! Heard yea the latest rantings from that nave
Frostbight?

Guildenstern: Brother, nay! What hath this jolly rouge to say for himself then?

Rosenfeild: The poor nave doth tire of the grim parchments that do cross his
desk. Such fare as "Would the owners of unit 1056 please contact
anthonyc@cet.co.jp". He claims they dull his palette for life itself. Day
in, day out, like the never ceasing tides of the frozen Dezhou coast.

Guildenstern: What other manner would he have his letters then? I too, am
lost in a sea of "Whould all units entering (27,3) please inform me of their
intentions." But such are the grains of sand that seed this the summer of
our discontent.

Rosenfeild:  The nave doth desire that all letters and such from this day
forward, be penned in the likes of Shakespeare!

Guildenstern: Cry Havoc and let loose the dogs of war! This matter is
absurd, good man! What manner of creature would seed his letters with
meaningless simile and metaphor as to confuse the day as night?

Rosenfeild: Alas, that is the very medicine he doth perscibe! That further
correspondance be placed under the yoke of iambic pentameter and be rendered
like the eastern winds to the human ear. Henceforth, would said words
become, "Oh! 1056, Oh! 1056! What art thou name! Quicky, peasant lest I
stike you down in vain!"

Guildenstern: Maddness! The maillist would never stand for it! Like pearls
before swine, I leave it in your eye!

Rosenfeild: The world is home to more than all your philosophy and religion
could ever
dream! Your very example would take the cloak of "There is something rotten
in the state of (27,3)! Send caution before thee, careless wanderers!"

Guildenstern: Maddness, still I say! Madness, what say all you gentle
readers, forgive the little Puck and give voice to thy hands? What say?

-wintermute-

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From: Dark Star <s0nw@exnet.com>
Subject: Re: Looking for Alantis City Teachers
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 95 11:37:50 BST

Try TTT training apwinsor@cs.unlv.edu
>
> I'm looking for teachers in the arts of tactics and observation to train
> two of my leaders.  Both are currently level one.  If you can help give
> me ring.
>
> Jolly (654)
>
>