SDW : BBS Comm Link From: Eitzenberger Thomas <eitzenbe> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 00:00:00 +0000 Hi There ! Theese mails are downloaded from the BBS ! Much fun in discovering the World of the Stars of the Dark Well ! Msg #5245 in *General Message Area* Created on 06/02/95 at 12:16:57 To: Kren Greyclaw [Recvd], From: Emit Emirp Subject: Congrats on a successful Coupe... Yo, Greytoes... Did you send the One-Who-Will-Not-Be-Named to meet his ancestors or are you letting him live in disgrace? I think you should put his head on a post for all to see. E. Emirp Servant of Noone DD Warrior The Leper Colony Msg #5234 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/29/95 at 14:19:51 To: Aidan Brand, From: Kon Nor Subject: (Reply To #5195) Re: WWW Archive I'll see what I've got that can help you. Msg #5231 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/26/95 at 08:00:32 To: All, From: Emit Emirp Subject: All's quiet on the western front... Uh-Oh... It's gotten quiet on the board again. Somebody must be plotting a coup-de-tat... When does it go into effect, Greytoes? Msg #5209 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/20/95 at 22:50:37 To: Aidan Brand [Recvd], From: Farstar * Subject: (Reply To #5207) Re: What ya paying? OK. Sounds good to me. Time is time and eventually everything over time distributes and filters accross the universe. Hell my predeccessor in his extensive notes tells in detail about the Clan's numerous clashs with the baby singers and the forceable move of a clan expedition accross three sectors in seven days under the lordship of Metaphor the second known enity. They have territory ruling amound themselves you know. The Clans deep migration out of this megasector is at hand and continues in a more decrete manner than the direct approach with Metaphor. Coreward is the answer to a major riddle and coreward we still go. Hows about a hint yousay. In the old achives (that have now been lost) lies a riddle but also a answer. You should gather the old paper and notes and see the paths that run back on themselves. Deadends mostly but a few (very few) point to where the old ones went. Time is the most critical. A storm is comming to the core worlds (from what I have be told) to ingulf the worlds of man and beast (and this includes my northern holdings). So get out while you can. Farstar. Msg #5208 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/19/95 at 21:45:41 To: All, From: Aidan Brand Subject: Re: WWW Page Looks like I jumped the gun a bit... because there already IS a WWW page for SDW. Not that its owner bothered to tell us about it, of course... It's on Thomas Eitzenberger's home page, and its WWW address is: http://flinux.tu-graz.ac.at/~eitzen/sdw.html Most of its information is drawn directly from the old Captain's Reference: Known Space, but it has some interesting tidbits such as the charted for the UN (Urr Nation). Till later, -- Eric Msg #5207 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/19/95 at 21:40:10 To: Farstar * [Recvd], From: Aidan Brand Subject: (Reply To #5198) Re: What ya paying? Message has replies. Farstar, It seems that those who call you a pirate are right on target. We'll be going to those whose prices are not so exorbitant as yours first. Once we've exhausted all of the alternatives, THEN we'll let you bleed us dry. -- Aidan Brand NA Grayswandir Msg #5199 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/19/95 at 06:56:30 To: All, From: Knoxious * Subject: Avalon Society Archives BN/C China Grove (Rispir System) - Today the B'Norg Government joined the Avalon Society pledging to devote the greater portion of its computer resources on the city for the purpose of maintaining a public information forum. "Although WE believe no information has been lost by the destruction of NA/C Marathon Reach, WE will, hense forth, devote all the unused storage and processing time of our cities' core computers to the Avalon Society Archives. All cities created by US will have a portion of the core set aside for this purpose. WE also propose that all further cities created as well as all existing cities have a percentage of their core computers devoted to this project." Msg #5198 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/18/95 at 22:16:45 To: Aidan Brand [Recvd], From: Farstar * Subject: (Reply To #5194) Interstar Chronicle Article Message has replies. Pay the credits and your will receive. The rich can afford the best of knowledge and the best of tech <kind of like real life>. Everyone else gets second hand knowledge and tech. What ya paying? Msg #5196 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/18/95 at 21:56:05 To: All, From: Farstar * Subject: Classified Once again it is time to add some old tech items to the general public for sale. The following was and is still available: 1. E50 Battle Box CMRR (Lrange,Heavy CMbt-----------------50T : 10M creds. 2. Black Widow CPB (City particle beam--------------------T : 20M creds. 3. TM20 Battle Box (TI hulled rider-----------------------20T : 75M creds. 4. TM30 Battle Box (TI Armored rider----------------------30T : 25M creds. 5. TM50 Battle Box (TI Armored,Lrange---------------------50T : 30M creds. 6. CIPU (Cargo Installed Power Unit, city or ship---------50T : 50M creds. 7. PDLCU(Beam Unit,city or expedition installed or setup--10T :100M creds. Note some price reductions on a few items. Due to the tremendous demand (I thank you for your patronage and interest) to additional old items are now available as follows. 8. HNSS Hell Nuclear Missile(same as neutron missle--------3T : 25M creds. 9. TM100 Battle Box(Lrange,TI Armor+Hull,NO EL,Endur(15)-100T : 90M creds. If interested send credits to NA/E DOWNPORT. Upon receiving will transfer tech via phone and 3x5 as always. Regards and Good Gaming. Richard Ginder. Msg #5195 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/18/95 at 21:11:28 To: All, From: Aidan Brand Subject: Re: WWW Archive Concerning the previous message: I am expecting to be able to set up a real WWW page in the next few months, and I hope to put together a SDW section on the page. Since I'll also have access to a scanner, I'll try to get a batch of maps onto the page as well. If anyone sends me stuff that they'd like placed on the Web page, I'll pay you back with other maps and stuff. And if anyone who doesn't have access to the WWW would like access to what I'll be posting on the web page, send me a snailmail letter with a SASE and I'll send you whatever you need. Clear space lanes, -- Eric Msg #5193 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/18/95 at 20:16:18 To: Emit Emirp [Recvd], From: Gigim Xul Subject: (Reply To #5188) Matching Wits W/ T-Rexx boy I shall mention to Rexx when I see again ( he is currently on an extended leave) that you hold him in such high esteem . I will inform him of your wish to converse with him matching your limited abilities against his capabilities . With such a oppurtunity awaiting him I sure he'll favor you by returning ( NOt) . By the way noone don't you mean none. Gigim Xul Do you understand sarcasm ? Msg #5191 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/18/95 at 11:38:59 To: Farstar * [Recvd], From: Emit Emirp Subject: (Reply To #5190) Keep Running... Well, they got it from T-Rexx... And gave it to me... Yeah, Yeah, that's the ticket. They gave it to me... For a song... Yeah, that's it! E. Emirp DD Warrior Servant of Noone The Leper Colony P.S. Check your private mail, Farie Dust... Msg #5190 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/18/95 at 11:16:13 To: Emit Emirp [Recvd], From: Farstar * Subject: (Reply To #5183) Keep Running... Message has replies. <BBMs and the Urr>. Try Again! Farstar. Msg #5188 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/17/95 at 11:03:15 To: Gigim Xul [Recvd], From: Emit Emirp Subject: (Reply To #5187) Matching Wits W/ T-Rexx boy Message has replies. That isn't much of a contest, him having so little and all... E. Emirp DD Warrior Servant of Noone The Leper Colony Msg #5187 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/16/95 at 21:49:07 To: Emit Emirp [Recvd], From: Gigim Xul Subject: (Reply To #5185) A New Allegiance? T-Rexx Message has replies. Presently we have not gathered enough players to start up a new allgeniance , but hopefully that will change in coming months. As for T Rexx getting back on this Board I don't , It's up to him. Prehaps I'll mention that he's missed , and should return so he can match wits with you could be interesting. Well enough for now . Gigim Xul Msg #5185 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/16/95 at 08:22:32 To: Gigim Xul [Recvd], From: Emit Emirp Subject: (Reply To #5181) A New Allegiance? T-Rexx Message has replies. Xully, baby, If Rexxy boy does head up this new allegiance, does this mean that he'll be back on this hypercom channel real soon? I've missed calling him a schmuck in front of all these people for so long that I've almost for forgotten what it felt like. Why, this is the most exciting thing to come across this board since the Shaved One was challenged for control of the Urr. This will be a great place again! E. Emirp Servant of Noone DD Warrior The Leper Colony Msg #5183 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/16/95 at 07:59:43 To: Farstar * [Recvd], From: Emit Emirp Subject: (Reply To #5178) Keep Running... Message has replies. BBM's? It was the Urr. They gave me the formula... ;-) Msg #5181 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/15/95 at 21:31:10 To: Emit Emirp [Recvd], From: Gigim Xul Subject: (Reply To #5177) A New Allegiance? Message has replies. Who's been spreading rumors again . Their are rumors about a new allegaiance being formed , but for reasons of his own Farstar does not wish to jion. As for what it would be called that will be decided if nad when it is formed . For now no decision has been made to form a new allegiance. ( and yes Thomas Rexx was thinking of heading it up ) So for those who must be inqusitive there is currently no plans to form a an allegiance in the South. Gigim Xul Msg #5180 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/15/95 at 20:54:24 To: Emit Emirp [Recvd], From: Farstar * Subject: (Reply To #5177) A New Allegiance? Chip Washer, your a gas. Personally I like the USA. United Southern Alliance. However, will be interesting on what the group that IS forming will be named. I also like SS, shootem and smokem. See ya later. Farstar. Msg #5179 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/15/95 at 20:41:49 To: Emit Emirp [Recvd], From: Farstar * Subject: (Reply To #5177) A New Allegiance? Sorry your talking without knowledge. Might have been, but my character cannot (due to history) be a part of it. Although I would support it with ships, men and resources if needed. I have been and continue to be a independent. However, I have been taking with another about a North, South alliance. Tactically would allow more options and territory to be covered. But, once again have not heard if its a go or even getting off the ground. If not thats Okay to. Will continue to play the game for reasons I like to play the game. Your getting closer but still off base. Good Gaming. Richard. Msg #5178 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/15/95 at 20:31:41 To: Emit Emirp [Recvd], From: Farstar * Subject: (Reply To #5176) Keep Running... Message has replies. Good! I just want to know WHO's be talking about BBMs. You may be lowered to number 4. Ghods is nothing secret in this universe. Farstar. Msg #5177 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/15/95 at 08:21:42 To: Farstar * [Recvd], From: Emit Emirp Subject: A New Allegiance? Message has replies. Yo! Farie Dust (JR?). I've heard rumors that you and old "Sparkles the Clown" are planning to form a new "allegiance". Whatcha gonna call it? "FUN AND GAMES"? "Sparkles and Company"? "Farstar Unified"? When do you think the votes will be in? E. Emirp DD Warrior Servant of Noone The Leper Colony (For those who have missed it on this board in the past: Sparkles the Clown is more commonly known as Thomas Rexx)... Msg #5176 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/15/95 at 08:12:35 To: Farstar * [Recvd], From: Emit Emirp Subject: (Reply To #5169) Keep Running... Message has replies. I can see you now. So what's the big deal? I do have bunkers but I know better than to hide in them, Bunker Buster Missiles, you know. Nice little toy someone developed there. A weapon that can "attack" your settlements without "attacking" your settlements. So, I won't be going "underground" any time soon. Msg #5169 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/14/95 at 09:46:28 To: Emit Emirp [Recvd], From: Farstar * Subject: (Reply To #5167) Keep Running... Message has replies. Exllant!! I salute you. It will be nice to have some fun for a change! Stay tuned Chip Washer. Cat and Mouse! I love it. As for threats, not to your big guys. Just the little ones. Unlike my predecessor, there will be no hint or knowledge. It will just happen. I look forward to it just for the fun. I am already gathering info and plan plans. You have saved my faith in DD honor. Underground we go! See ya eventually. All righhhht. Farstar. Msg #5167 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/12/95 at 08:45:09 To: Farstar * [Recvd], From: Emit Emirp Subject: (Reply To #5165) Keep Running... Message has replies. Don't worry. I can see through your "veil" of vaunted threats. You will not be the trouble you think you are. Besides, I won't be satisfied until I'm your number one butt buddy, or haven't you figured that out yet? E. Emirp Servant of Noone DD Warrior The Leper Colony Msg #5165 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/11/95 at 21:54:42 To: Emit Emirp [Recvd], From: Farstar * Subject: (Reply To #5152) Keep Running... Message has replies. Congrads Chip Washer! You are now number three from six. Number 1, the bankrupt of EM accomplished. Number 2, GA may or may not be dead soon. Number 3, the planting of my eggs in various places is now accomplished. Number 1, preceed to Hrild and dump a bunch of ping pong expeditions on that now NA Urr hater, that used to be under the covers of EM. Number 2 now is to drop some spies in the core just and case of need. Number 3 is you. Yaaaaa. I'll give to a hint. Watch echo's that are echo's that follow supposedly other ships though the gates. Deep Space Syndromes baaa. Beware the echo's all arround you for a period of time. For they have meaning and are real. The Evil Empire shall fall. Its only a matter of working on one at a time. See ya in the near future for your getting higher on the list. And I never forget. Farstar. <ooomy I forgot my spell checker>. Msg #5163 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/11/95 at 07:55:12 To: All, From: Mindgate Gm Subject: Chronicle Archives You can now find ZIP archives of the INTERSTAR CHRONICLE in the NEWS file area. Each archive contains a year's worth (12 issues) of the CHRONICLE. Msg #5160 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/11/95 at 07:03:46 To: Aidan Brand [Recvd], From: Emit Emirp Subject: (Reply To #5159) Yeehu Staam Aidan, baby. What documentation do you have to substanciate that statement? I have a living, kicking, screaming individual here. He is a very grizzly and war-warn individual, but I assure you he is alive. If it will please you, I will have my medical staff do a genetic test. I wouldn't put much creedance in any information you might receive from that dishonorable thing, the One Who Will Not Be Named. It has already been proven that it lies and hides from its opponents. E. Emirp DD Warrior Servant of Noone The Leper Colony Msg #5159 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/10/95 at 22:49:46 To: Emit Emirp [Recvd], From: Aidan Brand Subject: Yeehu Staam Message has replies. Emit, It's interesting to hear that you've been discussing Urr culture with former Supreme Warlord Yeehu Staam. According to current information, Staam was killed in the Ring of Honor by the current Supreme Warlord, Zadock Whitefang. Is this information in error? Or have you simply acquired a talent for speaking with the dead? -- Aidan Brand NA Grayswandir Msg #5152 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/09/95 at 13:18:00 To: The One Who Will Not Be Named, From: Emit Emirp Subject: Keep Running... Message has replies. Yo! Shaved one... You can run, but you can't hide... I see you! The UN Affirmation League... Msg #5145 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/09/95 at 01:14:11 To: Kren Greyclaw [Recvd], From: Gor Bar Subject: (Reply To #5139) Diplomacy WLRD GREYCLAW, As usual, you read what you choose to read and listen to all reports as if they were true. This is a failure in any being. You must work on correcting this error in your programming. You have ALL the facts in error. WE will itemize these for you inorder to make things simple enough for even you to understand. 1. The GA issued NO ultimatum to CMgr. Targlave. This "Ultimatum" as you as CMgr Targlave called it, was issued by the BN Government. 2. The GA has not attacked any Urr assets. The First Imperium HAS attacked some Urr Consulate assets. 3. The GA has not attacked any NX asset. The BN HAVE attacked a NX asset that President O'Malley said DID NOT exist. He admits the error, as if you are not aware of this simple fact. You ascribe to the Grand Alliance, actions of individuals within The Grand Alliance. This is similar to US accusing ALL Urr of dishonor for the actions of the former City Manager of Waal Teer; that of flying "FALSE COLORS". WE do not accuse you of such crimes. WE strongly suggest that you make no false claims against US. That is no way to approach the remote possibility of solving our mutual differences of opinion. As to Captain Singollo, he has a long and credible career in The Known Universe, as an explorer. You will require many years to even have a remote chance of having superior standing in The Known Universe. This is not one of the strong points for the Urr Society and WE can understand how you would view this "Man Of Peace" as a coward. That assumption is flawed, but you will not be able to perceive it as such; thus little will come from discussing this matter further; therefore, it is closed. WE would no longer consider protecting the Urr Consulate as WE HAVE for many years, thus the matter is closed. It is good to see that the Urr Consulate no longer makes such trivial and false claims against the BN Government; therefore, the matter is closed, by your own statement. CMDR GOR BAR GA HEAD OF STATE BN HEAD OF STATE BN WHIIS PUUR, COMMANDING Msg #5142 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/08/95 at 12:20:56 To: Kren Greyclaw [Recvd], From: Emit Emirp Subject: (Reply To #5135) heinous Urr acts of murder... Greytoes, Servant of the Shaved: Again, I say to you, Why should I aid you in finding your traitors? You seem to be finding them alright yourself. Perhaps, I should concoct a ship tonnage for you. Hmmm. How about 18,000,000? Let's see, that would be 346,000 tons fore, 10,936,000 tons amid, and 6,718,000 tons aft. Oops, sorry, that doesn't jive with the "story" that your butt buddy, Thorin Grant, had to say, does it? Well, gee... I guess that means that I just don't know... Other than to say the Urr wanted Targlave dead, have wanted him dead for ages, and apparently got their wish. Besides your current wish for death by particle beams, your race wants to kill TG as well. When are you going to get to that one? It's only 3 months travel away from Marathon Reach's old location... E. Emirp Servant of NOONE. DD Warrior The Leper Colony Msg #5141 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/08/95 at 12:05:01 To: Kren Greyclaw [Recvd], From: Emit Emirp Subject: (Reply To #5134) Urr Sobriety Greytoes, Servant of the Shaved, I stand corrected over the gaps in my information I have concerning portions of your society. However, many of my Urr personnel disagree with some of your statements. 1) It is their understanding that the "Supreme Warlord" is the "Speaker for the Inesk Jin" and not the "Urr Consulate Secretary of State". 2) It is their understanding that "Ritual Shaving" (signifying the lowering of said individual to the level of the Hooman) is a portion of the Urr traditions to those individuals that have shamed themselves, usually followed by "Ritual Suicide" by said individual. 3) It is their understanding that the UC Government most resembles the old Earth Nation of Communist China (circa 1980s old Earth reconning) and that all property belongs to the state. Also, all Urr are equal, but some are more equal than others. 4) There was nothing in Cmdr. Singollo's message about the Challenge that said HE was the one doing it or sponsoring it. Besides, It is my Urr population's understanding that a challenge by ANY Urr, regardless of sponsorship, was to be met, with the winner assuming the new position. I imagine that if the UC Strike Warrior mentioned had been met in the Challenge Ring, his name would have become known to all. 5) It's my understanding that the Urr Consulate is attempting to purge all its NON-URR personnel from the ranks of the commanding. At last report, Kiel Mason and Chelsea Brave had not yet gone through that famous Urr "Skinning and Deboning" machine to become Urr Warriors yet. Regardless of their level of service, they are still Hoomans. Your Purge is still not complete. To help clarify the positions of my personnel, I have had to discuss this message with one of the elder Urr on my sight. Perhaps you have heard of him. His name is Yeehu Staam, Supreme Warlord of the Urr Consulate (Retired). E. Emirp Servant of Noone DD Warrior The Leper Colony Msg #5139 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/07/95 at 15:22:23 To: Gor Bar [Recvd], From: Kren Greyclaw Subject: (Reply To #5137) Diplomacy Message has replies. President Gor Bar, You are a smooth tongued devil. Save your powers of persuasion for the weaker minded. You are speaking to an Urr Warrior. Your simple powers are wasted on me for I am protected by the will of the Taywan! You must take us all for fools to espouse such nonsense as in your last message. One has only to reread the last six Interstar chronicle publications to know you lie without shame. I shall retransmit the facts to you as found in the ISC. It was the GA that delivered the ultimatum to CMgr. Targlave, destroyed all of NA/C Marathon Reach's defenses and left the city helpless to any rouge attack. It was the GA who attacked and destroyed four Urr cities in Ara-Jen as punishment for leaving the GA. It was the GA who attacked NX/C Passage in Eta Rim system hoping to catch Urr warships in transit of that gate. Your words speak of law, peacefulness and unquestionable innocence of any wrongdoing. Your actions scream of tyranny. You are a tyrant Gor Bar! I am calling you a Tyrant! CMgr. Targlave described you perfectly when he said " the rights of others will not be tolerated by the GA" Mr. Singollo is a coward. I would not be suprised at all if he joined the GA and took his rightfull place at your feet. Give him your strongest implants for his spine is very weak. We have had our differences in the past, President Gor Bar, but there is no call to unleash such a terrible weapon as " GA Protection" upon the Urr. It is a comfort to know that you no longer protect us. There can be found one decent Flip-Flop within your plastic shell. You owe us no tonnage or credits. We do not wait for you to bring us much needed supplies. There is no action we await for you to accomplish that you have promised to complete. In short, you have no hold on the Urr. You will have to use force this time. Be warned, the "Coop" is still very well protected. It may not be time for the " weasel" to make his appearance. The" Empire of the Serpents" is crumbling and you along with it. WLRD. Kren Greyclaw UC Secretary of State Msg #5137 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/06/95 at 02:11:08 To: Kren Greyclaw [Recvd], From: Gor Bar Subject: (Reply To #5087) Diplomacy Message has replies. WLRD GREYCLAW, WE have no desire to be involved with Urr policy; CHAOS is not a part of OUR nature. WE no longer consider any actions of your government to be honorable in nature; but that is opinion and no more. You have yours, WE have OURS. In the final analysis, it will be thrashed out on the field of battle. WE no longer block the path of the First Imperium in their quest to destroy the Urr Consulate. Further, WE will now join with them in this effort, as will the membership of Storm Opportunities. You have escalated a limited war between FI and UC into a war with the members of FI, SO and BN. Brave, foolishly blind, but brave. You are obviously mistaken about the actions of Elwe and Hannibal, but you have been blinded to the truth by the very one that leads you into final destruction. Elwe and Hannibal had sworn their allegiance to the Urr Consulate and would have fought to the death. As a reward for this attitude, they were assaulted with threats and accusations of sedition. It is little wonder that they chose to leave the faltering Urr Consulate. WE have lost no vessels in Glade; however, that is of little concern. Once and for all, WE did not attack Marathon reach, but rather the NA Bat Guano, a ship that was stolen from the Urr Consulate many years ago. Why WE did this is unimportant as you would not believe it if told. WE did this after warning CMGR Targlave of OUR intent. He chose to intervene, putting himself as an enemy to US. WE captured the Bat Guano and the neutral Marathon reach counter-attacked the following month. WE listened to the whimperings of many and continued the attack only on the Bat Guano. When it was destroyed, WE departed Lastport. None of OURS are responsible for the attack on Marathon Reach. Though WE have two (known to you as Nightshade and Exposition IV) that have similar tonnages, neither has more than 100 beams and were many light years away from Lastport System. WE strongly suggest that you search your own ship records for possible candidates. There are a few renegade NAs that find some wierd form of pleasure in attacking from hiding and making no claims to their terrorism. Helpless targets are their specialty, so WE would assume that they qualify as possibles. At this time, WE have no interest in any organization that the Urr Consulate has membership in. The Grand Alliance was an effort to return the rule of law to the Known Universe; however, all efforts to move forward were thwarted by your master. You may propose until the ends of the Universe; WE will have no part of such a charade. The reality of the Known Universe is "Might Makes Right!". You have insured that this insipid doctrine will be the dominant one. You should be proud of yourself for such folly. Do not insult US with rhetoric of diplomacy while you continue to pursue war. You have spoken proudly of your racial biographies and criticised others for their inability to understand the Urr. Cast no stones when you are guilty of the same. WE are not "machines" as you contend; but rather biomechanically enhanced humans. As such, WE are more than a match for any Urr in the arena of combat. One day it may come to pass that WE could test this fact on a personal level. Until that day comes, WE will be about the task of destroying that which WE tried so hard to protect. Irony wins the day again. Ah well, you need to devote your time to the recovery of some of your ships from Jump Space, so WE allow you time to attend to these duties. When you have finished this task, feel free to continue this debate. GOR BAR BN HEAD OF STATE BN WHIIS PUUR, COMMANDING Msg #5135 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/05/95 at 16:38:26 To: Emit Emirp [Recvd], From: Kren Greyclaw Subject: (Reply To #5094) heinous act of murder... Message has replies. Mr. Emirp, servant of The Machine, You are truely the servant of your master The Machine. Is it to be understood that you will make wild accusations and then refuse to provide any evidence to support your charges? Please consult with your village elders on this matter once again. Ask them if making charges and then refusing to provide proof is in the highest tradition of what it means to be a DD warrior. WLRD. Kren Greyclaw UC Secretary of State Msg #5134 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/05/95 at 16:34:43 To: Emit Emirp [Recvd], From: Kren Greyclaw Subject: (Reply To #5121) Urr Society Message has replies. Mr. Emirp, servant of The Machine, With all due respect, you have no idea what you are talking about. Your understanding of Urr society and philosophy is faulty at best. You have not even understood the few public paragraphs( Captain's reference) that give a tiny glimpse into Urr society. Your assumptions regarding captains Mason and Brave are wrong. Their service records have been excellent and they are not associated with Mr. Singollo and his followers. I will correct your mistakes in the order in which you presented them: 1) The Inesk Jin is composed of the eight eldest mating Urr. 2) The membership at large is not in the Inesk Jin. 3) Members of the Inesk Jin must be from Urr racial stock. 4) I am the speaker for the Urr Consulate. I also make public those decisions the Inesk Jin wishes to be made public. 5) The Supreme Warlord is the leader of the Urr civilization. He is also a member of the Inesk Jin. 6) The UC is not similar to the old Earth Communist society. All is Urr property but all Urr are not equal. Only the fiercest warriors survive. Those of lesser station dare not enter an area known to belong to a senior Urr. Mating rituals also ensure that the weaker Urr do not survive. 7) I was challenged by Mr. Singollo who presented a UC strike warrior to fight for him. Under Urr law, substitutions are not allowed. Mr. Singollo's challenge was laughed out of the Inesk Jin and he left in disgrace. 8) Urr traditions do not require the shaving of oneself nor ritual suicide for any action or crime. Mr. Singollo had a fondness for the old Earth race known as the Japanese. I think he may have confused the feudal code of the samurai with Urr traditions. For the record, we are not Japanese. We are Urr. I hope this has helped enhance your understanding of Urr society. Please feel free to ask any questions you may have. WLRD. Kren Greyclaw UC Secretary of State Msg #5127 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/05/95 at 06:34:49 To: Gigim Xul [Recvd], From: Emit Emirp Subject: (Reply To #5124) Urr Nation Why wouldn't I be an expert on the Urr? Almost half my population are UN personnel. They know much about the Urr Culture. My second in command is an Urr Warrior. Perhaps you have read some of his messages? He's a rather intellegent fellow. A very calm and honorable sort of Urr. Not like the One Who Will Not Be Named or the Servant of the Shaved. Personally, I wouldn't listen to either of these two about it. The message from that Singollo guy seems most interesting, but still he is a hooman. Although he does seem to have a grasp of Urr culture as well. Msg #5126 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/05/95 at 06:17:05 To: All, From: Knoxious * Subject: Message From Elwe Singollo From: Starlord Elwe Singollo, UN Science Coordinator To : All Re : Comments by Kren Greyclaw The ONE WITHOUT NAME AND HONOR, former Supreme Warlord of UC, was challenged by the ship captain of UC Haar Gdat Roarr, by the city manager of UC/C Hannibals Kastel and by the UC/E Thangorodrim leader Moor Gooth (as the challenged Supreme Warlord was leading an UC/E, illegally ... because no Supreme Warlord may be anything other than a ship or city leader ..., we had to drag him out of his UC/E where he has fled because he feared a FI attack on his city .... again cowardly behavior). All three challenger are true Urr Strike Warriors and the former Supreme Warlord could choose the weakest, if he dared ! No challenge was ever issued by Starlord Elwe Singollo, because he would not be allowed to become Supreme Warlord in Urr society. All the accusations forwarded by UC officials are just weak attempts at covering up the cowardly behavior of its former Supreme Warlord. We were just following the challenge guidelines written down by the former Supreme Warlord HIMSELF ... but he did not dare to follow his own rules. The Urr Nation UN is led by a Supreme Warlord, commander of UN Haar Gdat Roarrr, a Urr Strike Warrior of course. More information has been submitted to ISC and can be obtained through our Recruitment letter. I am Science Coordinator, a non-combat assignment of course, as I would not be able to beat Urr Strike warriors in Challenge for a military command. Thats not an obstacle in my service to Urr culture and civilization. I gave my word to the former Supreme Warlord, before he went crazy, that I will defend the Urr .... and I keep my promises, even if HE does not. I am familiar with the Urr racial description and traditions ... and they are sacred to us. I am more Urr than most of UC will ever be ... sad but true !!!! OOC: One more word on communication: I, Willi Stumptner, have no direct connection to the BBS. I HAVE to send my messages via others like Mike or Frank. So don't waste bandwidth by accusing me to cooperate with (your) enemy just because they help me in participating in the BBS discussion. BTW thanks Ricky and James for the BBS downloads !! Msg #5125 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/04/95 at 21:11:20 To: Storm Mcneil, From: Farstar * Subject: (Reply To #5084) Acts of Piracy I think your forgeting something. Your patron is HISTORY. One down, another to follow. Who's the next, perhaps the SO, maybe the BN themselves, FI. The forces of light are beginning to surface (all except mine that is) to bring the evil empire to its knee's. The empire of the serpents shall fall. Farstar. Msg #5124 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/04/95 at 19:59:03 To: Emit Emirp [Recvd], From: Gigim Xul Subject: (Reply To #5117) Urr Nation Message has replies. You certainly do not suffer from a false sense of modesty. By the way Emit you must do something about that lack of self confidence. I know of a course you can take by mail that can solve that ego problem of yours. But really I wanted a response from someone in know with a little more inside infromation about goings on among the URR and despite your claim I can't for the life of me figure out how a DD can know the workings of the URR. So you won't consider it impertinent of me if I wait for a more official response. Gigim Xul Msg #5121 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/04/95 at 07:23:19 To: Kren Greyclaw [Recvd], From: Emit Emirp Subject: (Reply To #5120) Diplomacy - Yeah, Right. Message has replies. Greytoes, Servant of the Shaved, I suppose this means that Kiel Mason, UC Outrigger, and Chelsea Brave, UC Dark Avenger, will be wearing 'a child's uniform, carrying a coward's banner, and proclaiming to be "true Urr warriors"' as well? Aren't they hoomans as well? I haven't seen them get replaced or expelled for "sedition" yet. Your purge is not complete yet, oh Great One. GET YOUR ASS IN GEAR. By the way, you have a lot to learn about Urr Society. The INESK JIN IS THE MEMBERSHIP AT LARGE, regardless of racial stock. The Supreme Warlord is only their speaker. The Urr Consulate is supposed to be what was known on old Earth as a TRUE COMMUNISTIC Society, with all members being equals, NOT A DICTATORSHIP as you and that shaved thing you serve seem to want it. By the way, the fact still remains that you were challenged by another Urr Strike Warrior (nameless though he may have been), and refused that challenge. The One Who Will Not Be Named was also subjected to the same challenge. These challenges were not met. Urr tradition, as I understand it, require you and it to commit ritual suicide for this act of cowardice. When do we get the video? E. Emirp DD Warrior Servant of Noone The Leper Colony Msg #5120 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/03/95 at 22:22:54 To: Gigim Xul [Recvd], From: Kren Greyclaw Subject: (Reply To #5093) Diplomacy Message has replies. Capt. Xul, Thank you for your kind words. We shall be free or we shall be dead. But I promise you, we shall not be slaves. No Taywan wore chains and neither shall any Urr warrior. To the end we pledge to fight. The UN is the corporation, company, or whatever formed by the Human Elwe Singollo, NA Ainulindale, and his followers. Mr. Singollo has in his mind the " true" way Urr ought to behave. Although he is a human, Mr. Singollo feels he is " Urr enough" to tell me I'm not " acting" as a true Urr warrior. Mr. Singollo issued a challenge to myself and SWLD. Whitefang for which he promptly presented a UC Strike Warrior ( Name unknown) to " fight on his behalf". Of course we all had a good laugh in the Inesk Jin over that one. I tried to explain to Mr. singollo that there are no " substitutions " allowed in personal combat. Hence the name " personal " combat. He promptly left the UC and has obviously been doing a lot of talking to Mr. Emirp. Of course there are a lot more details to this internal Urr matter. Suffice to say, Mr. Singollo and myself did not see eye to eye on foreign policy issues. Mr. Singollo lost and left before he was ejected from the UC for sedition. When you see Mr. Singollo, wearing a child's uniform, carrying a cowards banner, and proclaiming to be the " true Urr warrior" you will understand why he could no longer be in the Urr Consulate. Many seem to have subscribed to Mr. Singollo's point of view. It should be noted that those who have supported Mr. Singollo are also members of his clique. I am not sure how long he plans to keep up this UN charade but I ask for your understanding in this matter as a hurt human tries to " get back" at the Urr Consulate. WLRD. Kren Greyclaw UC Secretary of State Msg #5119 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/03/95 at 08:46:23 To: Emit Emirp [Recvd], From: John Rixon Subject: (Reply To #5105) Re: misspelled Why dear Emit I do "beleive" your right. But then again how can a DD warior be sure of english. John Rixon Commanding Msg #5117 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/03/95 at 06:33:00 To: Gigim Xul [Recvd], From: Emit Emirp Subject: (Reply To #5115) Urr Nation Message has replies. Of course I'm an expert. I'm a Dendriti. We are experts on everything. You should know that, being an expert yourself. As for the UN, what do the UC have to do with them? The Shaved One, The One Who Will Not Be Named, expelled them for "daring" to challenge his authority. They are the honorable Ursanoid Race. This is why the Urr on my settlement proclaimed themselves to be UN instead of that other prefix. I imagine you will see some formal anouncement in that "unbiased" rag, The Interstar Chronical, some time real soon. E. Emirp DD Warrior Servant of Noone The Leper Colony Msg #5115 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/02/95 at 21:32:00 To: Emit Emirp [Recvd], From: Gigim Xul Subject: (Reply To #5096) Urr Nation Message has replies. Gee I was unaware that you are an expert on the Un , and the internal affairs of th URR in general ? However I was kind of hoping that I would get some feedback from the UC's spokesman about the legal status of the UN from their point of view since I have very little respect for yours. Now I know you claim to be an expert on every issue posted on this board , but I shall wait to pass judgement on the UN's claim to represent the true URR until I hear from the UC. Gigim Xul P.S> don't bother with highly colored views I prefer to make my own judgement with I know the facts. Msg #5110 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/02/95 at 07:46:29 To: Knoxious * [Recvd], From: Mindgate Gm Subject: (Reply To #5104) Spruce up the place./baud rates >>So, how does it break down? What percentage of the callers come in at the slower baud rates?<< I only keep the Caller Log for a day or two and then wipe it for a new log, but I'd say that roughly 1/3 call at 1200 baud and 2 (maybe 3) call at 300 baud. About 3 people have said they have modems faster than 2400 baud. Msg #5105 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/01/95 at 14:04:55 To: John Rixon [Recvd], From: Emit Emirp Subject: (Reply To #5100) Re: Stupid!!! Message has replies. Yo! Hooman... You spelled "believe" wrong. :-) E.Emirp DD Warrior Servant of Noone The Leper Colony P.S. You really shouldn't pick on Xully that badly. Us non-hooman types often have trouble with your language. Xully is one of those fringe aliens, you know. Msg #5104 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/01/95 at 13:58:27 To: Mindgate Gm [Recvd], From: Knoxious * Subject: (Reply To #5099) Spruce up the place./baud rates Message has replies. Dave, I think it would be interesting to find out just how the baud rates break down as well. This is getting back to my request for the BBS to migrate to a higher speed modem. Most of the callers ignored my request for information about their personal systems the last time I did it. So, how does it break down? What percentage of the callers come in at the slower baud rates? Frank Msg #5100 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/01/95 at 09:26:55 To: Aidan Brand [Recvd], From: John Rixon Subject: (Reply To #5080) Re: Stupid!!! Message has replies. Dear Buckwheat, yes after reading your message I did notice my errors. But to say that my message was "laden" is in it self incorrect. I beleive that I only had one misspelled word and I used "your" instead of "you're", gee I'm sorry. At least you don't need a stinking translator to read the message unlike ol' Gigy! So get a job, get a life, sit down and shut up! John Rixon Commanding Msg #5099 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/01/95 at 07:38:42 To: Knoxious * [Recvd], From: Mindgate Gm Subject: (Reply To #5078) Spruce up the place. Message has replies. >>How about a little color in your "ANSI" BBS?<< Not exactly a high priority, but I'll see what I can do. Remember that some people are still at 300 and 1200 baud, so don't expect too many fancy borders and such. Those are REAL painful to wait for at low baud rates. Ciao! Msg #5096 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/01/95 at 05:42:35 To: Gigim Xul [Recvd], From: Emit Emirp Subject: (Reply To #5093) Urr Nation Message has replies. Xully, baby. The Urr Nation are the TRUE leaders of the Urr. They are the Challengers to the UC Government that were "Expelled" for "daring" to challenge "The One Who Will Not Be Named" for leadership of the UC. They are the honorable ones. E.Emirp The Leper Colony Servant of Noone DD Warrior Msg #5094 in *General Message Area* Created on 05/01/95 at 05:32:11 To: Kren Greyclaw [Recvd], From: Emit Emirp Subject: (Reply To #5088) heinous act of murder... Message has replies. Dishonorable Greytoes, According to my Urr Nation (UN) population, they claim that you are not worthy of response. They're name for you is "Servant of the Shaved-The One Who Will Not Be Named". You are mearly a puppet, a toy, a bobble to be discarded. You too have been challenged but have refused to go into the "Ring of Honor". If I understand Urr Tradition correctly, you too must shave yourself and commit ritual suicide. Why haven't you done so? Get it over with and maybe the universe can get on with the business of peace. E. Emirp DD Warrior Servant of Noone. The Leper Colony Msg #5093 in *General Message Area* Created on 04/30/95 at 21:36:39 To: Kren Greyclaw [Recvd], From: Gigim Xul Subject: (Reply To #5091) Diplomacy Message has replies. Well I see you have the courage of your convictions , but the reason for my message can be said in one word paronid. I suspect many in the south ( my clan ) have been targets of FI's abuse and ridicule for so long that in comes as secound nature that we defend our actions against all comers , but I see by your message that you are one who judges by actions and deeds rather then hearsay. So I wish well in your war against those who would inslave the URR. I do have a question what is the UN ? I have not heard of this new organization prehaps you could enlighten me with some background about it ? Gigim Xul Msg #5092 in *General Message Area* Created on 04/30/95 at 21:15:32 To: Storm Mcneil [Recvd], From: Kren Greyclaw Subject: (Reply To #5084) Acts of Piracy Message has replies. President Storm McNeil, The loss of 8000+ Urr aboard your ships is unfortunate. It is a comfort to know they died in battle. Thank you for this information. I will inform their families that they died well. WLRD. Kren Greyclaw UC Secretary of State Msg #5091 in *General Message Area* Created on 04/30/95 at 21:14:01 To: Gigim Xul [Recvd], From: Kren Greyclaw Subject: (Reply To #5083) Diplomacy Message has replies. Capt. Xul, Again, you have no need to convince me of your courage. If my comments do not apply to you then they do not apply to you. There are many ships , cities and expeditions within the GA. How is it you seem so certain I was talking about you? In your heart is were courage is found. If you are brave then you will always be brave regardless of negative things people may say to you or about you. Do not let anyone force you to act by calling you a coward. Let your actions be based solely on what is best for you and your clan. May your mind guide your actions rather than the emotions others have inflamed. I meant no insult to you or your clan in the message I sent to President Kon Nor. WLRD. Kren Greyclaw UC Secretary of State Msg #5090 in *General Message Area* Created on 04/30/95 at 21:12:07 To: Kon Nor [Recvd], From: Kren Greyclaw Subject: (Reply To #5079) Diplomacy President Kon Nor, Excellent. I agree there is much bad blood between us. Let us once and for all settle the differences between our nations. To the last then.... WLRD. Kren Greyclaw UC Secretary of State Msg #5088 in *General Message Area* Created on 04/30/95 at 17:45:45 To: Emit Emirp [Recvd], From: Kren Greyclaw Subject: (Reply To #5062) WAR. Who's Japan in this one... Message has replies. Mr. Emirp, Honorable DD warrior, servant of The Machine, Your beliefs are correct. We are at war. I do not understand how a traitor could be your friend. Please elaborate on why you would befriend someone who committed the heinous act of murdering so many helpless beings. I wish to bring this person to justice. Did I wrongly assume that you also feel this person should be punished? You have stated that it was an Urr ship that committed this act. Were you in error or possibly misread the data you have? If no mistake was made then it is morally obligatory to release the data you have. I trust your honor will prevail in this matter. WLRD. Kren Greyclaw UC Secretary of State Msg #5087 in *General Message Area* Created on 04/30/95 at 17:43:53 To: Gor Bar [Recvd], From: Kren Greyclaw Subject: (Reply To #5061) Diplomacy Message has replies. CMDR. Gor Bar, The GA does not dictate Urr policy. We in no way seek your confirmation that we have acted honorably. It is not our responsibility that GA ships be crewed and understand the complexities of jump space travel. It is not our responsibility to ensure your warships do not pull into docks while an Urr Ship of the Line sits in orbit. It is also not our responsibility to ensure that GA assets do not go to the lottery. Thank you for your concerns regarding the two human captains still within the Urr. Unlike the other humans who broke and ran when the GA arrived in Ara-Jen, these two have submitted their contracts to the Inesk Jin and demanded they be honored. By Urr law they have this right and the Inesk Jin has not yet rendered a decision on this matter. It is unfortunate that you did not understand the risk involved to your ships in Glade. I am not sure what it means to be neutral these days. NA/C Marathon Reach was neutral and you attacked them. NX is neutral and you attacked them also. Sure we attacked GA ships in a neutral system but at least we didn't attack the neutral nation. By Urr law, we must declare war against a nation BEFORE attacking ships flagged with that nation's Colors. Any " special " restrictions to warfare will have to be established by international law. If you recall, international law is applicable to all belligerents within an international organization. It is possible to establish such an organization if we are so inclined. I would like such an organization so that we may at least establish some rules of war. It is kind of a" free for all" and this is no way for civilized nations to wage war on one another. Even in war, we are still the representative of our nation and should act in a manner that reflects credit upon our nation. I propose the formation of an international organization( this is not an SDW federation but an agreement between players ) that all nations may join with the understanding that they must obey international law. International laws will be established by unanimous vote of approval by the member states. It will then be the duty of all members to obey the law and unite to punish any member who disobeys the law. This is very similar to the Human's old Earth United Nations. We should do well so long as we do not attempt " peace keeping " missions like the UN tried. Thus the die is cast...what say you Machine? Processing......Processing.......Processing....... WLRD. Kren Greyclaw UC Secretary of State Msg #5086 in *General Message Area* Created on 04/30/95 at 17:33:11 To: All, From: Thomas Radecic Subject: "Reply to the Independant Cowar. . .Eye" Usually I don't respond to alien ignorance, but "The Independant Eye" has caught my attention by questioning my honor, criticizing me, and finally challenging me. (ISC 06.159) First off I must say I find it difficult to take your criticizm of my actions seriously. You attack my courage and honor, yet you hide in the cowardly shadow of anonymity. A man stands behind his words and his actions. A man does not fear to stand in the light of scrutiny. This you obviously fear. But then, you are not a man; perhaps it is too much to ask of an alien to back it's words. In response to your challenge: Why should I waste my time? You are too afraid to admit your own identity; a physical threat may cause you to wet yourself. I know. . .I know. . .you have some reason for hiding your identity. . .a coward can always find an excuse not to fight. So put up or shut up! We've all had to hear your diarrhea of the mouth far too long. Show us your courage. Show us alien superiority. I havent seen it yet, and Im not holding my breath. Step into the light and do something instead of talking about it. I can tell you're like all the rest of these aliens. . .Big talk, little action. Hard head, soft belly. Go ahead, try to "eat my soul". . . at least I've got one. THOMAS RADECIC HUDS President FI Longshoreman Msg #5085 in *General Message Area* Created on 04/30/95 at 12:28:02 To: All Former Em Ship Captains, From: Storm Mcneil Subject: Opportunities Former EM Captains, Your President has been offered a high position of leadership and honor within Storm Opportunities. We patiently await his decision. In the meantime, he has authorized Storm Opportunities to extend membership to the Non-aligned members of the former East India Merchants. It was East India Merchants who first offered the hand of generosity to Storm Opportunities and helped our fledgling organization take the first step. For this, we will be forever in your debt and now extend our humble hand to our brethren in peace. I would like to look to the future now. East India Merchants was attacked economically by Clan: Farstar. He was successful in removing the shell under which you brave captains operated. But he has not removed these very captains and their capabilities. I now offer membership to you within Storm Opportunities. We have an ever expanding need for warriors, explorers, researchers and production managers. Any former EM captains who wish to pursue these endeavors can do so within Storm Opportunities without prejudice or constraint. Several of our captains have expressed their non-interested in combat and have not been called to war against the Urr Consulate. If you have a copy of our charter, you will know that we cannot force any member to do ANYTHING he or she deems undesirable. Here is a direct quote from General Article 12, para 4, "No member will be commanded, coerced or directed to perform any function, action or operation deemed undesirable. The governing body of Storm Opportunities [G4] may not compel a member to commit personal resources to corporate sponsored activities or events." If you do not have a copy of our charter, request one. I will gladly forward one immediately. Why do I share this with you? Because I want to point out in exacting clarity that you, as members of Storm Opportunities, could pursue your interests at your leisure without fear of the G4 forcing you to engage in war against anybody. We hope that many of the former East India Merchants' captains joining us do enjoy combat; will agree with our occasional decision to fight evil; and will support the cause with direct or indirect actions. However, the G4 could only ask, not order, their participation. Consider membership within our fine organization. Pursue your personal goals with the freedom of choice. If at any time you feel that Storm Opportunities is not the place for you, any or all may leave without threat of harm from Storm Opportunities. Good hunting... Storm McNeil Warmaster Errant Storm Opportunities Grand Alliance Federation Msg #5084 in *General Message Area* Created on 04/30/95 at 12:26:57 To: Kren Greyclaw [Recvd], From: Storm Mcneil Subject: Acts of Piracy Message has replies. WLRD. Kren Greyclaw, Your pirates attacked and boarded the distressed merchantman, BN Sylver Spyke. Your Secretary of Exploration, embarked on the UC Vorr Chee, cowardly attacked the docked SO Nothing But Trouble and SO Wildcard while they were openly functioning as diplomatic emissaries within the neutral system of Glade. Your bravest warriors attacked the defenseless explorer, SO Maul, again in the neutral system of Glade. You proudly presented a former First Imperium settlement, abandoned and won via a lottery, as a spoil of war. These are indeed wondrous and brave accomplishments to boast about! Now you tire of combat after achieving such monumental milestones in your war against the Grand Alliance Federation? You sue for peace from Kon Nor of the First Imperium? You desire to, "resolve our dispute through diplomacy?" Was it your duty as Secretary of State to declare war prior to attempting diplomatic resolve? Was it your duty as Secretary of State to violate Nexus Research's neutrality in the Glade System prior to attempting diplomatic resolve? Was it your duty as Secretary of State to order the killing 8,000+ Urr personnel aboard Storm Opportunities' ships prior to attempting diplomatic resolve? I cannot speak on behalf of the B'Norg Government nor the First Imperium, but as Warmaster Errant of Storm Opportunities, I unconditionally deny your request to resolve our dispute through diplomacy! Only after the utter collapse of the Urr Consulate Government and the lifeless, hairless form of Zadock Whitefang adorns my mantle piece, shall I reconsider diplomatic resolve of our dispute! I will do everything in my power to ensure that the B'Norg Government and the First Imperium also deny your plea for peace! Let the leadership of the Urr Consulate rot in hell for its cowardly actions against Storm Opportunities and I will shift my schedule to ensure I am present to welcome you upon your arrival! "Do not meddle in the affairs of Storm Opportunities for they are subtle and quick to anger!" Good hunting... Storm McNeil Msg #5083 in *General Message Area* Created on 04/29/95 at 22:56:53 To: Kren Greyclaw [Recvd], From: Gigim Xul Subject: (Reply To #5057) Diplomacy Message has replies. Wrld Kren Greyclaw AS a former member of EM (which as of this writing is reform ) I am taken back at your reference to members of the GA who no faith in their own abilities . I am also feel insultated that at your implication that the only reason for remaining in the GA is some one is holding a gun at my head. First many EM captains fought in the previous war with FI and had no thoughts of quitting till peace was arranged . We where heavily outgunned , but that did not cause us fear. Most have do not fear FI's war machine , but do respect it's cabalities when properly lead( something that hasn't been done lately).2nd none of us , myself included reponds well to threats and are quite capable of handling ourselves in fight. If it was only Fi's threat of a war that kept us in the GA we would not be in it long. Em has and will continue to try reform the GA into what it's founders purposed long ago. This will take time and a great deal of effort. enough their are things to be done Gigim Xul Msg #5081 in *General Message Area* Created on 04/28/95 at 21:48:43 To: Knoxious * [Recvd], From: Aidan Brand Subject: (Reply To #5078) Spruce up the place. Color? Nah... I've found that color on a BBS is more distracting than anything else. If color is to be added, please provide a way to disable it, okay? I'm pretty happy with the BBS the way it is. -- Eric Minton Msg #5080 in *General Message Area* Created on 04/28/95 at 21:46:54 To: John Rixon [Recvd], From: Aidan Brand Subject: (Reply To #5077) Re: Stupid!!! Message has replies. Cdr. Rixon, Your message to Gigim Xul about the spelling errors in his recent messages was itself laden with spelling errors and grammatical mistakes. I suggest that you correct your own grammar and spelling before you criticize the spelling and grammar of others. -- Aidan Brand EM Grayswandir Msg #5079 in *General Message Area* Created on 04/28/95 at 16:44:30 To: Kren Greyclaw [Recvd], From: Kon Nor Subject: (Reply To #5057) Diplomacy Message has replies. If you feel this war is over the UC leaving the GA you are gravely mistaken. Bad blood between FI and UC pre-date the GA by many years. The entrance of the UC into GA stalled the machine. As we find from your expeditions, the UC were merely stalling for time, hoping to build enough to keep us from removing the blight that is UC from the face of Toka-I and all of known space. The machine is moving. Soon, those who remain UC will join their Taywani ancestors. It is too late for diplomacy now my spirit brother from another lifetime. Perhaps in your next life you will choose wiser. The machine moves. We will welcome you into our fold soon. Your spirit will be welcome when your next cycle begins. Msg #5078 in *General Message Area* Created on 04/28/95 at 14:17:07 To: Mindgate Gm [Recvd], From: Knoxious * Subject: Spruce up the place. Message has replies. Hey Dave, How about a little color in your "ANSI" BBS? This "BLACK on GRAY" is all well and good, but it's a little boring... Anyone else agree? Frank McCloy Msg #5074 in *General Message Area* Created on 04/27/95 at 20:52:06 To: Emit Emirp [Recvd], From: Farstar * Subject: (Reply To #5063) Glory Roads You can bet on it. Yeserie you can. Farstar. Msg #5072 in *General Message Area* Created on 04/27/95 at 18:41:39 To: Emit Emirp [Recvd], From: Rufus Eriurana Subject: (Reply To #5064) ArtificConversation styles Hey, I prefer character assassination as much as the next person. Of course, it's much more fun than if the person's right there... In general, if anyone (including you ) reads this, some of the reaction was probably due to my infrequent log-ins. Forgot the first rule of listening -- find out who's the loudest and walk away. Rufus Msg #5071 in *General Message Area* Created on 04/27/95 at 18:36:32 To: John Rixon [Recvd], From: Rufus Eriurana Subject: (Reply To #5046) ArtiWelfare Officer? Oh, it's not a problem with bravado. It's just a wondering where role-playing starts and personalities begin. Moral welfare officer!? If I wanted to be that much of a masochist, I'd sign up on alt.sex.amazon. Besides, around here the Large Number Theory of persuasion would probably apply (Large amounts of high explosives, strategically placed between the toes of the patient, will usually cure most cases of athlete's foot.<g>) Rufus Msg #5066 in *General Message Area* Created on 04/27/95 at 07:39:03 To: Kren Greyclaw [Recvd], From: Emit Emirp Subject: (Reply To #5034) Urr Colors Why didn't you just Outlaw them? Like you tried to do with the Urr that disagreed with you. Ghod, I grow tired of your Btock Shleg. Msg #5065 in *General Message Area* Created on 04/27/95 at 07:36:00 To: All, From: Emit Emirp Subject: Personnel formerly known as UC Be it known: The Personnel on the Leper Colony voted today to change their personnel designation from UC to UN. They no longer believe the government known as the Urr Consulate has the sanity to guide there actions. Due to the dishonor of the "One Who Will Not Be Named" for failing to respond to a challenge, and in doing so, failing to commit ritual suicide, they can no longer listen to the edicts of said government. Sroloc Mitabrev UN Warrior Subcommander The Leper Colony Msg #5064 in *General Message Area* Created on 04/27/95 at 07:22:57 To: Rufus Eriurana [Recvd], From: Emit Emirp Subject: (Reply To #5043) ArtificAI vs. Natural Stupidity Message has replies. What are you trying to say, Rufus old buddy? Where else can we banter about our messages of discord and joy toward each other? Don't try to take the fun out of this board or the wind out of our sails. Msg #5063 in *General Message Area* Created on 04/27/95 at 07:18:17 To: Farstar * [Recvd], From: Emit Emirp Subject: (Reply To #5024) Glory Roads Message has replies. Yes, we all have our own, don't we? Msg #5062 in *General Message Area* Created on 04/27/95 at 07:16:30 To: Kren Greyclaw [Recvd], From: Emit Emirp Subject: (Reply To #5023) WAR. Who's Japan in this one... Message has replies. Sir, I believe we are at War. Why should I aid you in your quest for traitors? Traitors to you are friends to me. Why attempt to deny your actions? Why can't you just say "YEAH! We did it... And some more besides!" An honorable being would do so. I had the impression you were going to attempt to be honorable. When do you start? E. Emirp The Leper Colony Msg #5061 in *General Message Area* Created on 04/27/95 at 02:25:57 To: Kren Greyclaw [Recvd], From: Gor Bar Subject: (Reply To #5057) Diplomacy Message has replies. WLRD. KREN GREYCLAW, An honorable warrior would not claim victory over a ship(BN SYLVER SPYKE) that was in distress from a misjump and without crew. Only the current incarnation of the ONCE proud Urr Consulate would make such hollow claims. WE were told that YOU were not such a spineless wretch. WE are sorry to see that WE were misinformed. An honorable warrior would not make claim of an administative victory over a settlement. To claim war victory over The First Imperium by the winning of an asset in a lottery is without honor, but beginning to be par for the course for the Spokesman of the Urr Consulate. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- OOC: James, I would like to point out to you that Evette would have (and has in the past) screamed bloody murder over the loss of a position in the Lottery and demanded that it be returned without any compensation. Perhaps it is time that she put the shoe on the other foot and demand that the Urr that won the settlement give it back to it's rightful owner. I do not agree with that philosophy by the way, but it only seems fitting under the circumstances. As a side note, I am pleased to see you back.. you at least have the ability to bring the UC back from the pits of depression and loss of prior honor. I do not agree with all of your views on the method of play of the Urr; however, that is constantly being rewritten, as is the way of this game. The players chart the course. We have first hand knowledge of the base views of the original players of the Urr and have one of them in the BN at this time. The second generation Urr leadership tried to establish some variances in the views of the allegiance and the third generation has just got lost on the treadmill and taken the UC way off course. I wish you all the luck in the world at getting the train back on track; you have an unenviable task indeed my friend, but if you enjoy a challenge you will be blessed with ample opportunities in the future. It does appear that you have a facination with climbing the impossible mountain, so you should have alot of fun with the game. Enjoy! -- Zan -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The attack on the two SO ships was reasonably honorable... if YOU consider that they were not permitted to respond for three combat rounds. WE would consider that an action of a coward, but language has long been a barrier between species. WE are sincerely pleased to hear that YOU have rid yourself of the human infestation that has long plagued the Urr Consulate. Did Kiel Mason die with honor, or run like a coward? And of Chelsea Brave? YOUR view of the status of the membership of the Grand Alliance is, like most of YOUR views, skewed with a bias that does no honor to YOU or your race. YOUR two-faced view of combat in the "NEUTRAL SYSTEM" of Glade and the actions taken by the BN in Lastport at least provide comic relief to all who spend anytime in sifting thru these never ending diatribes. As to diplomacy, it is the ONLY way to permanently solve a dispute; however, YOU have cast the die... it is up to you to cast the solution as well. Surely one of your wisdom will be able to find the solution and make it known to all. WE await your next words of wisdom. CMDR. GOR BAR GA HEAD OF STATE BN HEAD OF STATE BN WHIIS PUUR, COMMANDING Msg #5057 in *General Message Area* Created on 04/26/95 at 17:16:51 To: Kon Nor [Recvd], From: Kren Greyclaw Subject: Diplomacy Message has replies. President Kon Nor, I think it is time to discuss the current situation in Ara-Jen and abroad. I understand that you have set out to make an example of the Urr for leaving the GA. Normally, this is a good tactic to keep the meek in servitude but you really have not " punished" the Urr effectively to make this tactic effective. In fact, I would say that our gains ( SO Wild Card, SO Nothing But Trouble, BN Sylver Spyke and FI/E Neemis Enterprises) in this war out way our losses. All that remains in the Urr Consulate are Warriors. The Human weakness that plagued our civilization fled to NA status after the first battle between us. We are the decendants of the Taywan and carry their standard into battle. By these Colors, surrender is not an option, bowing to The Machine is not an option and fighting to the last is our proud duty as Urr warriors. We are prepared to continue attacks against the GA until some understanding can be reached between our civilizations. It is to be made clear that we see only GA as the one who attacked us and who we are at war with. I know nationalism is not very strong in the GA. Most ship captains still only swear feality to thier respective corporate president. I do not wish to continue attacks against those whos only crime is flying GA Colors. They do not understand that as GA alliance members they are waging war against the Urr either directly( FI) or indirectly( the rest). I also understand that some only remain in the GA because they are held there at gun point and do not have enough faith in themselves to leave. It is my duty as Secretary of State to resolve this conflict in our foreign policies. I extend to you the opportunity to resolve our dispute through diplomacy. Perhaps we can reach an agreement or perhaps not. Shall we at least try? WLRD. Kren Greyclaw UC Secretary of State Msg #5052 in *General Message Area* Created on 04/26/95 at 06:10:45 To: All, From: Knoxious * Subject: Message From Elwe Singollo, UN Senator From: Starlord Elwe Singollo, UN/E Thangorodrim To : All The ONE WITHOUT NAME AND HONOR, former Supreme Warlord of UC, tried to cover up his shame and attacked the settlement of his challenger with superior forces. UN ground forces, angered by this repeated loss of honor, fought valiantly and send the renegade Urr back home with blooded noses. The attempt to kill the rightful challenger was the expected reaction of this spineless coward who failed to show up in the Challenge Ring. Settlement Leader Moor Gooth, Urr Strike Warrior, declared this a matter of honor and will remain on Toka-I to fight against any attacker in personal combat, although we expect these cowards to attack again repeatly until the valiant defenders die against superior forces. The UN forces in Ara Jen were prepared to defend the system against the FI aggressor, but are know attacked by the crazed renegades. We will stand against any threat to Urr civilization! Msg #5051 in *General Message Area* Created on 04/26/95 at 00:29:37 To: All, From: Rick Cousins Subject: Spelling Sorry about that last message - but who really cares about the spelling and the pop-off concerning. Its a pain in the you know were to fix errors in a message. Anyway I havn't put in my two cents in a while and I could resist. Msg #5050 in *General Message Area* Created on 04/26/95 at 00:17:53 To: John Rixon [Recvd], From: Rick Cousins Subject: (Reply To #4996) Illegal FI entry into Vie-Tar? aet ship Msg #5048 in *General Message Area* Created on 04/25/95 at 20:39:28 To: Rufus Eriurana [Recvd], From: Aidan Brand Subject: (Reply To #5043) ArtificAI vs. Natural Stupidity Cpt. Eriurana, Well said. This has, indeed, become more a forum for flamewars than a medium for meaningful discourse. The only way to reclaim it is to continue to present your ideas in a lucid, tactful manner as an example to others. I have only rarely seen you post to this board; I hope that you will post your ideas more frequently in the future. As to spelling errors: I generally assume that, long distance bills being what they are, many people who are otherwise capable spellers will wind up making a number of errors because they are rushing their typing in order to keep their call short and their phone bill down. Yes, it's hard to read, but I can sympathize with those who haven't a lot of cash to spare. -- Aidan Brand EM Grayswandir Msg #5046 in *General Message Area* Created on 04/25/95 at 09:15:16 To: Rufus Eriurana [Recvd], From: John Rixon Subject: (Reply To #5043) ArtificAI vs. Natural Stupidity Message has replies. Hey Rupus, since your NA just where are you located at, maybe i'll come out and visit you sometime. Don't try to become the interstars private moral welfare officer, it will only hurt your feelings. If you feel that our characters have to much bravado for you then just don't sign on. But you are right about people needing to check their spelling (Pay Attention GIGUM !!!!). But if you don't like the way I play my character then you can just kiss my furry butt! Sincerly, John Rixon Commanding Msg #5043 in *General Message Area* Created on 04/24/95 at 18:28:58 To: All, From: Rufus Eriurana Subject: ArtificAI vs. Natural Stupidity Message has replies. Someone once said that technology would benefit mankind. Of course, this was said on Earth but it applies to most sentient beings. On the other hand, it has also been said that artificial intelligence could never replace natural stupidity, avarice, pettiness, childishness, pouting, and generally brat-like behavior. Having reviewed the messages passed through the ether these last few days, I am reminded more of pigs passing gas rather than politicians, warriors and statesmen trying to use diplomacy and rhetoric. Come on, try and use a spellchecker. That's what it's there for. I know that there are some out there who have passed the age of reason although I couldn't prove it by quoting some of the dreck on this BBS. I've only seen one example of someone actually trying to act like a responsible person. The rest seem to be trying for the type of one-upmanship I've seen only on the playground of the remedial school. Flame each other privately. Try a little maturity. Rufus Eriurana -- Sire Eitzen 'eitzenbe@utc01.avl.co.at' Up