ATLANTISv2 atl-players-digest #90

From: csd@microplex.com (Christian Daudt)

Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 00:00:00 +0000

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Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 08:59:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Joshua Mosher (JE 1996)" <mosherj@minerva.cis.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Newbie Question

So, has anyone _asked_ Geoff about this puzzling issue of the Helmet of
OBS or whatever it's called?

Josh Mosher
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Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 08:30:36 -0500
From: jobollin@iumsc4.chem.indiana.edu (John Bollinger)
Subject: Re:  Combat Spells

>Can you set MORE THAN ONE combat spell to be on for all combats?

Each mage may set exactly one combat spell, but different mages may set
different spells.  If you use the COMBAT order to set a combat spell, the
spell you specify replaces any previous spell.  There are some spells that
are cast automatically AFTER combat, if the mage has them -- these do not
have to be set with the COMBAT order.

John Bollinger
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Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 09:31:12 -0400
From: Sandy Wise <sandy@beeker.cs.umass.edu>
Subject: (ATLANTIS) RE: Imperial Union of Nairn

Be it hearby known that, in private consultation, the First Order of
The New Dawn has considered the proclamation of the Imperial Union of
Nairn and rejects and resists any and all attempts to constrain or
otherwise restrict the rights and freedoms of the peoples of Yakleks
Tromeforth, and Fetlar.

The First Order does not hold that war is inevitable, and indeed would
be detrimental to the free peoples of the Yakleks region.  Forces are
hearby called upon to set aside inflamatory retoric that may only
lead to war.

Factions wishing to discuss the future of the Yakleks region may
contact representatives of the First Order of The New Dawn.

Speaker for the New Dawn
                                First Order of the New Dawn
                                wise@cs.umass.edu
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Date: Thu, 29 Jun 95 07:38:42 PDT
From: "JSKJONSB.US.ORACLE.COM" <JSKJONSB@us.oracle.com>
Subject: Fwd: Fwd: Newbie Question

--Boundary-9916810-0-0

As to the question wheither or not Geoff was asked, yes I Cced him
with my original question
                        Odin

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So, has anyone _asked_ Geoff about this puzzling issue of the Helmet of
OBS or whatever it's called?

Josh Mosher

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Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 10:29:09 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Robert A. Hayden" <hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu>
Subject: Question about buying people

This is a newbie question, so bear with me....

Imagine, if you will, Grog, the Barbarian Chief.  Grog needs minions
because he has delusions of gradeur.  So, he travels to the market and
sees a bunch of people and leaders for sale.  He want's to buy them.
He's confused...

When I buy people, do I need to for the new group for them and then have
that new group purchase them, or can the main unit purchase them.  If the
main unit purchases them, where do the new peopel end up?  If you try to
get the new unit to purchase, and you give it some money, and they end up
getting nothing, where does the money go at the end of the turn?  Poof?

What's the best way to get new people?

Grog wants to know...

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From: "D.J. McGaw" <u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Newbie Question
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 17:29:17 +0100 (BST)

>> If I have a helm of observation raising my leaders OBS by +2
>> and my leader has OBS of 2, Making him have OBS 4,
>> can I train other units up to level 4 or level 2
>>                        Thanks,
>>           Odin, Leader of the Gods of Valhalla

I would assume up to level 4!

Regards

Dave
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From: "Jiri Klouda" <KLOUDA@novell.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>
Date:          Thu, 29 Jun 1995 20:02:23
Subject:       Atlantis: Q: Multiple Orders

Can I send Orders for more than one month?
 I must leave e-mail for three weeks, but I don't want let my faction
stagnate.
            Jirka

* Origin: A stejne je potrubni posta lepsi !
Jiri Klouda - Student of Faculty of Maths at Charles University
E-mail: klouda@novell.karlin.mff.cuni.cz
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Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 13:04:47 -0500 (CDT)
From: Donald P Kackman <kackm002@gold.tc.umn.edu>
Subject: newbie question

Hey all,

I'm a newbie (so new in fact that I haven't even got my first turn yet)
and have an obvious question from reading all of your email discussions:

What is a turn checker and do I need one? Also I downloaded a mapping
program off of the Atlantis WWW page. Is there any other software
(windows or OS/2) that I will need or that will be helpful?

Thanks

Don Kackman

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From: "D.J. McGaw" <u3djm@csc.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Question about buying people
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 18:57:35 +0100 (BST)

OK - buying is like this :

To set up a new unit, put this set of lines in

UNIT abc

FORM 1
BUY 10 MEN
END

GIVE NEW 1 600 SIL

This will create a new unit with 10 men in it.

Easy huh?

Regards

Dave
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Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 13:06:26 -0500
From: jobollin@iumsc4.chem.indiana.edu (John Bollinger)
Subject: Re:  Question about buying people

>When I buy people, do I need to for the new group for them and then have
>that new group purchase them, or can the main unit purchase them.  If the
>main unit purchases them, where do the new peopel end up?  If you try to
>get the new unit to purchase, and you give it some money, and they end up
>getting nothing, where does the money go at the end of the turn?  Poof?

If an existing unit buys new men, they end up in that unit, this diluting
any studying that that unit has achieved.  Usually better is to form a new
unit, give it money, and have it buy the men.  If the new unit doesn't get
anyone, then the money (and any other possessions) go to the first unit of
the same faction on the list of units in the region.  If there is no other
unit of that faction in the region, then I imagine that the money and items
do, in fact, go poof.

>What's the best way to get new people?

Leave Atlantis City.

Cheers,

John Bollinger
Melvin's Marauders (105)
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Date: Thu, 29 Jun 95 12:13:15 PDT
From: "Odin Lord of Vallhala" <JSKJONSB@us.oracle.com>
Subject: More Newbie Questions

1) If I have a unit with 2 leaders, what would be the correct orders
   for seperating them into 2 units.
2) What would the orders be for the opposite.  2 units with 1 leader a
   peice, combining them into one unit with 2 leaders
3)   ___     ___
    / A \___/ B \   If I controled these three territories and got attacked
    \___/ C \___/   In A and B which one would the units from C help defend
        \___/       Would it do it randemly or would it defend against the
                    Lower unit/faction Number?

Many Thanks,
                   />  Odin, Leader of the Norse Gods
                 \/>
         -{\\\\\\(*):::<=========================================-
                 /\>
                   \>

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From: William Robinson <bvsnbthd@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu>
Subject: obs helms
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 95 14:56:12 CDT

If this is true, then it SEEMs like a bug because it is
at the very least easily exploitable:
if you could effectively train like +2 levels what if you were already
trained and someone else tried to train you?

example:
sherlock(1) OBS 90days  teaches 007  099
james bond (007) studies OBS
maxwell smart (099) studies OBS
both have 0 days training, however 007 wears a helm of OBS, given to him
by his faction's mage, Q.

Now, can 007 benefit from this training or not?

and if so what is to prevent 2 units from giving each other
the helmet and training each other on alternate months?
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From: tim.hruby@his.com
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 95 16:17:21
Subject: RE: FWD: NEWBIE QUESTION

> >> If I have a helm of observation raising my leaders OBS by +2
> >> and my leader has OBS of 2, Making him have OBS 4,
> >> can I train other units up to level 4 or level 2
> >>                        Thanks,
> >>           Odin, Leader of the Gods of Valhalla
>
> I would assume up to level 4!

On the contrary, I would assume only up to level 2.

Analogy:  If you have a combat(2) leader with a sword, can he train up to level
2 or 4?

But I guess this debate will actually have to wait for the definitive answer
from Geoff, since I'm sure we all have our assumptions.

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From: Mark Forsyth <mark@forsyth.demon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 17:14:32 +0000
Subject: Another question.

I have another querie, in what order are the GIVE orders executed. If I send in
the following orders will it work or fail (assume units 1,2 and 4 each have
over 100 silver and unit 3 has 0 silver)

UNIT 1
  GIVE 3 100 SILVER

UNIT 2
  GIVE 3 100 SILVER

UNIT 3
   FORM 1
      BUY <Something that costs 290 silver
   END
   GIVE NEW 1 300 SILVER

UNIT 4
  GIVE 3 100 SILVER

Thanks

--
mark forsyth
mark@forsyth.demon.co.uk

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Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 14:58:54 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Robert A. Hayden" <hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu>
Subject: Newbie Question:  Spell lists

Silly question, so keep the flames low, but does anybody have a spell
list that they can send me?  The one on the web page is fairly
incomplete.  Thanks :-)

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